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- yetAnotherCroc, on 01/16/2008, -5/+88If any one wonders why Ubuntu gets all the press and the other equally good distros remain in the dark, his is it. Ubuntu is not just an OS. It's a program.
The goal is not just to put together a kickass distro. Lots of people do that. The goal is to put together a high quality distro and then bring it to the world! If the world needs a beginners guide, Ubuntu makes a beginners guide that is just as free as the OS. If the world needs a thicker manual, Ubuntu makes a thicker manual and gives it away for free. If the world needs well developed certification courses in Ubuntu, Ubuntu delivers. If the world wants installation media, Ubuntu sends them to you for free. Now what other distro is this thorough? Is it any wonder they have the bigger share of the market?
Hopefully Fedora, Mandriva, Gentoo, PCLinuxOS (I hate that name) will look and learn. If more distromakers did this then we'd have a much easier time reaching out to people. - ha1f, on 01/16/2008, -6/+31No, not really. I'm sure I'll get dugg down by open source fanboys, but the truth is, there's no reason for you to switch if you're happy with what you've got.
- l2OI3, on 01/16/2008, -3/+26This is a perfect example of the ubuntu community. No help was asked for. it's a ***** digg comment thread, yet people still helped. Thats the beauty of linux.
- d00by, on 01/16/2008, -2/+19I agree. If you're happy with what you've got, and you don't mind paying for what you've got, you have no reason to switch. However, having used Apples, Windows, and Ubuntu, I will say that minus the lack of Photoshop support, Ubuntu is my favorite because of customizability of just about everything
- JasonMaloney101, on 01/16/2008, -1/+15Don't use now-defunct Beryl. Gusty already comes with Compiz Fusion pre-installed.
sudo apt-get install compizconfig-settings-manager - fcukthisgame, on 01/16/2008, -0/+14And ubuntu is _definitely_ not the only distro that will send you installation media for free.
Unfortunately, I wish I could get my hands on 'powered by gentoo' case badges like ubuntu gives away. My friend's got one on his toilet. - capiCrimm, on 01/16/2008, -0/+13actually, getting it preinstalled on consumer PCs is much more important. People already get a "free" OS with windows and mac(to them it's free since they don't realize they're paying for it, people have a very weird idea of what an OS is or that they even exist.)
- nomoreink, on 01/16/2008, -0/+12And it's so small it fits in an envelope!
- ramenite, on 01/16/2008, -0/+12because 10 SOUNDS OFFICIAL!!
If it was 11, people wouldn't take it seriously...11 lessons?! GET THE HELL OUT OF HERE!
/George Carlin - underthewether, on 01/16/2008, -4/+16its not polluted with Apple's DRM for one
- elithrar, on 01/16/2008, -1/+12Actually, Novell (SLED & openSUSE) ) and Red Hat (RHEL & Fedora) have much more financial backing.
- StanStutter, on 01/16/2008, -4/+13Run along junior, this is a topic for grown-ups.
- tbranham, on 01/16/2008, -1/+9Just go here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuWeeklyNewsletter/Iss ...
- sirhomer, on 01/16/2008, -0/+8Steve Job's Ego: One thing that decently doesn't fit in an envelope.
- KineticShampoo, on 01/16/2008, -2/+10Download a Ubuntu 7.10 ISO file.
Burn it on a cd using deep burner.
Stick cd in, reboot and change bios to boot on cdrom.
Restart.
Click next next next next when the ubuntu thing pops up. - TheBuzzKiller, on 01/16/2008, -0/+8Just to elaborate ... the Ubuntu install CD is also a LiveCD which lets you run basically full Ubuntu without the risk of messing up your Windows installation so you can try it out without taking the plunge straight away.
For all the support you could possibly need, google and Ubuntu Forums - UKsHaDoW, on 01/16/2008, -1/+8As you get old, games start get pointless. I play the odd one. Theres better things to do with your time. So i go on digg, when i've some minutes spare.
I used to be hardcore gamer. Now I just find it pointless tbh. - samurimaster, on 01/16/2008, -0/+7Google cache mirror: http://209.85.173.104/search?q=cache:N2NvT9KB3SIJ: ...
- ha1f, on 01/16/2008, -2/+9You forgot to mention the fact that Ubuntu also has more money behind it than all those other distros.
- theymos, on 01/16/2008, -2/+8This is a step in the right direction. The reason I don't use Linux is because with it I am not the power-user I am used to being with Windows. With Windows I am confident that I can do pretty much anything in just a few minutes. I have years of experience under my belt and I know exactly what I'm doing. With Linux I feel very out of place because all of the tricks I used to know with Windows don't work anymore. The only way to get Windows users like me to switch is to educate them on how to be just as efficient and comfortable on Linux as Windows.
- dinostabOMG, on 01/16/2008, -2/+8if you ever find yourself in that situation again in Ubuntu, press alt f2, then type
metacity --replace
and hit Run. Another option is
compiz --replace
But that might be more risky, especially if it was part of the reason you lost that part of your windows. Any idea why this happened? Check out ubuntuforums.org - I'm still pretty much a noob myself but they are immensely helpful over there. They're pretty much the reason I am getting around so well now - I converted in August, by the way. - sirhomer, on 01/16/2008, -2/+8You can dual boot Linux and OSX! It's not a one or the other type of deal, why not have both?
- dAnieL11oneone, on 01/16/2008, -2/+8As someone who has used only Windows, how should I go about switching my OS? I want to learn the basics first because I have heard Linux is harder to use than Windows. I have so many questions... Is there a boot disk that will allow me to get used to Linux so I can test the waters?? So to speak. Any links/advice appreciated. Thanks!
- whereisian, on 01/16/2008, -1/+7https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Training
- Stonekeeper, on 01/16/2008, -0/+5Just boot from CD mate. Select the "run or install" option (first one in the list).
Don't worry, it doesn't touch your C drive or any other drive unless you actually run the "install" icon on the desktop when it loads. It runs a little slower because it's coming off a CD drive which is slower than if it was installed.
This CD will also be a life saver for you if your windows install crashes and you need to rescue data off your C drive. - Stonekeeper, on 01/16/2008, -0/+5Calling it Ubuntu 7.10 desktop training is putting a limited lifespan on the product. Drop the 7.10 part and keep the course up to date. That will fix it in people's minds that it's the defacto training for Ubuntu Desktop, regardless of version. I know each version is slightly different - keep old training material. I'm talking about the name of the course.
How many times have you seen a book about an out of date linux distro that you wouldn't part cash with? - Phocion55, on 01/16/2008, -0/+5Just try the LiveCD feature first. It doesn't require you to install anything. Your computer will boot from the CD instead of the hard drive.
- Jacob, on 01/16/2008, -2/+7It's all personal preference. Their are definate advantages and disadvantages to every OS out there you just need to figure out what YOU need in an OS and go from there.
- BlueSkyfish, on 01/16/2008, -3/+8The only thing they need to do to bring Linux into the mainstream is advertise it.
- Phocion55, on 01/16/2008, -2/+7Judging by your avatar, I'd assume you have a 360.
What else do you need? - UKsHaDoW, on 01/16/2008, -1/+5Usally when this happens to me. I use this command
nvidia-xconfig --composite --add-argb-glx-visuals
Then restart. The titlebars while running compiz usally work after that. - linuxrebel, on 01/16/2008, -2/+6Actually a lot of what Ubuntu is doing has been done before. Just not as well managed. It was called Mandrake Linux. Yes it had the "schools" etc etc etc. URPMI actually outdoes apt. But hey. the second time around you get a chance to correct the 1st guys mistakes.
- Phocion55, on 01/16/2008, -0/+4I'm seeing +3 diggs right now and a ton of helpful responses below his question..........
- dAnieL11oneone, on 01/16/2008, -0/+4I have a couple of external hdd, can I install Ubuntu on one of these? I don't really want to mess with my C drive as I have had some bad luck in the past. I'm currently downloading ubuntu-7.10-desktop-i386.iso How does the dual boot work? Will I be able to choose what OS I want to use at startup?
- sybesis, on 01/16/2008, -1/+4Just to get them wrong..
I would say it depends...(lol yeah)
I would say that same if OsX provide mostly everything that you could get on any Linux distro. I would say that for one thing linux does it better than any other Os. If you want to program..in whatever the langage you want. Probably is probably the best for you as mostly every mature and well known libs are available trough package manager so it's easy to install developpement package and make it fast to setup a developpement workstation. Having servers etc... But from the desktop point of view. You can only get a new way to make things. Try it...love it or not. there are livecd(that are slow because CD isn't fast and is working directly in the ram) and after that build your own opinion...
But one thing to rememeber, don't get frustrated at first if it's not doing what you expect. It's like me now using a windows machine :( I feel claustrophobia using windows...like if there were walls around my keyboard etc. - moschops, on 01/16/2008, -0/+3What the hell did they put a section on partitioning your disk in there for? Compared to the other basic stuff its like rocket science - I know there are plenty of warnings sprinkled around that section but really, it just doesn't belong. I'm sure 99% of entry level desktop users who might be reading such a document just don't need and don't want to know that stuff.
- majglow, on 01/16/2008, -6/+9I've never run linux. Is there any advantage to running Ubuntu as a desktop system over OS X (besides the price factor)?
- Eltrkbrd, on 01/16/2008, -0/+3Or you can quickly download and install Ubuntu directly in Windows from http://wubi-installer.org/ that way you don't have to deal with changing the BIOS, dual boot configs, data backup, etc.
- thecheatah, on 01/16/2008, -2/+5Thats true, if its not broken then dont fix it!
- KageSenshi, on 01/16/2008, -0/+3RHEL/SLED has a lot of financial backing - True .. because its RH/Novell's investment/product
but Fedora/OpenSuSE - False .. they are open community projects sponsored by RH/Novell .. the money in sponsorship is far less.
but Ubuntu .. it stands on the same as RHEL/SLED, where it is Canonical's investment/product, not what Canonical sponsored .. investment and sponsorship is 2 different thing .. where the latter have least money .. - javaroast, on 01/16/2008, -0/+3Fedora's Desktop User Guide
http://docs.fedoraproject.org/desktop-user-guide/e ...
RHCE: What Ubuntu's Certification aspires to become.
http://www.redhat.com/certification/rhce/
Fedora's free media program
http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Distribution/FreeMed ...
Don't get me wrong. This is a nice thing that Ubuntu did and further documentation projects are always a good thing. Just quit acting like Ubuntu is the only one doing these types of things. - duffblue, on 01/16/2008, -0/+3I got nothin'
- theaceoffire, on 01/16/2008, -0/+3The ability to read should not be ignored as useless. It is a skill that will help you though life, so please just read the data.
- sybesis, on 01/16/2008, -2/+5You guys are idiot...give him the url....is that too hard...just give him the freaky URL...
here is one good url ... http://distrowatch.com/ (may help to choose a distro)It may be fun to see whats next or whats coming soon
http://www.ubuntu.com/getubuntu here you go for ubuntu
http://fedoraproject.org/ here you go for fedora (as i love fedora, i would say it's may be not the best choice for newbies as fedora is...hmmm on the edge. It has mostly always the new things before everyone but you pay in unstability...)
http://www.gentoo.org/ for hardcore...i love the idea of the project but i never had time to install it....
http://software.opensuse.org/ openSuse from novell....was slow on my last machine but it may have changed...
http://www.debian.org/ the project that ubuntu is based over. You'll probably get more things with it than with ubuntu but you'll have to put more work on the installation.
In the end most distro will work the same.
except package management. etc. - rowjimmy, on 01/16/2008, -1/+3or don't even install it. just use the ubuntu live cd to fiddle around and see what it is like.
then again with HD space being cheaper than bottled water nowadays, you might as well install it. - drlog, on 01/16/2008, -1/+3I use mac osx and ubuntu on my PCs. OSX is good so I wouldnt switch if I were you.
- theaceoffire, on 01/16/2008, -0/+2I support that statement as well. The only reason I swapped was due to windows having an issue with my hardware, as well as software issues.
- RedGreen1, on 01/16/2008, -0/+2Just a note: That really is no excuse not to backup your data. It is still making changes to your system, so it really is best to be prepared for what could occur.
- selrahc, on 01/16/2008, -0/+2Yes you should be able to install it to a second drive. Are these USB hard drives though? Depending on your computer it may not work to boot from a USB connected drive. You can boot linux from a flash drive even, but I can't get it to work with my computer.
Running from the LiveCD does give a good idea of how it works, but of it runs a lot slower. If you install on a separate drive you shouldn't have to worry about screwing up your system and you get a better idea of how everything works. And yes, it will let you choose which operating system you want when the computer starts.
If you want to install it onto a second hard drive I would suggest partitioning it(this can be done during installation). I would partition into about 10GB for root and use the remaining for a /home partition, or a /home and a /data partition. Putting home on a separate partition means you can reinstall and your settings and documents are not lost. - ha1f, on 01/16/2008, -3/+5A) he didn't mention those
B) those are already popular in the enterprise, and provide excellent documentation and support. hence their certifications. -
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