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- spikeb, on 11/05/2007, -2/+272bout fricken time.
- dinkola, on 10/10/2007, -20/+90Let me be the first to welcome Ubuntu to 1995. May many more futuristic advances be undertaken.
- prthealien, on 10/16/2007, -9/+73But isn't the LACK of a GUI the reason you would usually edit the xorg.conf file?
- coredump0x01, on 10/10/2007, -0/+59The article says if X cannot start, a fail-save X server will launch running this configuration utility so you can fix your xorg.conf without the console/manual editing. It's called BulletProofX https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BulletProofX
- edzilla, on 10/10/2007, -3/+51reinstall the OS because of a messed up xorg.conf? Are you kidding??
- Bhima, on 10/10/2007, -3/+47I am still wondering why in the hell X.org can't figure out that ***** own it's own.
Every time I edit one of those files it pisses me off. - diggapleaze, on 10/10/2007, -0/+35I hate to be the bearer of bad news but the implementation of Xorg 7.3 into Ubuntu will be delayed until Gutsy+1 (see https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/xorg7.3 ). Since displayconfig-gtk requires Xorg 7.3 as a dependency (according to this launchpad spec sheet https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/displayconfig-gtk ) there is a chance that this GUI will be removed by release time in October. Some of the features of the Xorg GUI covered in TFA depend on Xorg 7.3, such as testing multiple resolutions on the fly without requiring a complete restart of X. Notice how TFA says this feature is "alpha and buggy"...that's because it hasn't even been implemented yet!
Hopefully (and I never thought I'd say this) Gutsy will be delayed just a week a longer to squeeze in Xorg 7.3 and make these sorely needed features available in the next release of Ubuntu, rather than next April. After all, the new Xorg release only missed the feature freeze mark by a week and half. - Nerotique, on 10/10/2007, -2/+35"Remember the good old days when to change a screen resolution or driver, you had to edit xorg.conf or reconfigure X.org?"
I can't say that I do... In *The Good O'l Days* we edited /etc/xf86config or ran xf86setup... the notion of Xorg didn't come along until much later. - scabbers, on 10/10/2007, -1/+26Mmmmmm you'd end up with any res and refresh of your choice - as long as it was 60hz 800x600
- alienSkull, on 10/10/2007, -1/+26maybe back in the day..
now, people want to easily add a second monitor or extend the desktop to a projector or something, without the hassle of editing .conf files
grandma should be able to do it - Sparkster185, on 10/10/2007, -1/+23Before you edit the file, copy a back up to some location. ~/tmp, for example. If you screwed up, boot to the command line and copy it back. Genius, I know.
- freze, on 10/10/2007, -2/+23Thank you!
One of the last things that scares windows users away is now being solved! - ha1f, on 10/10/2007, -2/+22its in ubuntu.
- ludwik, on 10/10/2007, -2/+21This one IS Ubuntu-specific, so your sarcasm doesn't have much place here.
- ToadLeg, on 10/10/2007, -1/+18Thanks for the flame all. You know there are a lot of people who know a lot less about computers than I do, and don't use Linux because some people in the Linux community like you don't care about how anyone is able to use Linux.
I'm just suggesting that maybe it would be easier if this program could set up a backup system so that in the event that the X window system is configured incorrectly, it can go back to default, than manually backing up your xorg.conf and reloading it with a command line, using xorg-conf, a CLI editor, dpkg-reconfigure -phigh xserver-xorg, or whatever other command line fix there is. - aaronm67, on 10/10/2007, -0/+16Before I knew what I was doing, this happened to me a few times. Editing xorg is sometimes required to make your monitor work correctly, and if you mistype one thing, you're unable to start an xsession. It's not uncommon at all for people to reinstall because they mess it up, because as far as they can tell, they "Messed up one file, and now their computer can't boot".
Also, it's not like they can go online and get a solution, because more then likely their network isn't configured, and if it is, Firefox certainly wont start (I understand it's not hard to configure or use lynx, but most people don't). - QwertySG, on 10/10/2007, -1/+16You can graphically edit xorg with nivida-settings at the moment.
- semaja2, on 10/10/2007, -6/+20Whats so special about this? SuSE has had sax2 and other such tools for a long time, whats so special about this tool?
- zomgfast, on 10/10/2007, -9/+23Welcome to the 20th century!
- TechCF, on 10/10/2007, -0/+14I hope it will cooperate with nvidia-xconfig (from the binary non-opensource nvidia driver) with works great to configure dualscreen on my setup
- Snarfy, on 10/10/2007, -0/+13Remember modelines for xfree86?
Modeline "1600x1200" 155 1600 1656 1776 2048 1200 1202 1205 1263
Forget simply editing text files. You had to bust out a calculator just to set your resolution to something decent. - dhughes, on 10/10/2007, -0/+13Oh come on you know you loved it when you got it to work the first time, you felt like a powerful uber geek ;)
- Shootfast, on 10/10/2007, -1/+14The keyword is user friendly
- eplawless, on 10/10/2007, -2/+14haha, guess you will, loser
- fafaforza, on 10/10/2007, -0/+11Well, then, why don't you write your own X server and make releases for it every 6 months to coincide with Ubuntu? Seriously, you're gonna bash the developers 'cause their release cycle doesn't run with the fill-in-the-blanc Linux distro?
- inactive, on 10/10/2007, -3/+14wow only took them forever...
i hated having to manually add my resolution of 1152x864@75hz - Sparkster185, on 10/10/2007, -0/+11I think you mean 'KDE has had this feature for ages!'
- cdmarcus, on 10/10/2007, -1/+11You should be glad that GNOME's finally getting this feature rather than trying to turn this into a DE flamewar. You should realize that any advancement in any Linux distro or DE besides your own is something to be glad about, because it furthers the state of Linux, and pushes it towards being a better option for desktop users.
- edzilla, on 10/10/2007, -4/+14That's called the console, on any linux distribution...
- idugcoal, on 10/10/2007, -1/+11And I'll (happily) be the guy that points out to you that, as the article says, it IS new to Ubuntu. In other words, this particular change IS specific to Ubuntu.
- ElbridgeGerry, on 10/10/2007, -3/+12We need a Ubuntu section.
- brundlefly76, on 10/10/2007, -0/+9The first rule of xorg.conf: make a copy of xorg.conf!
- alexforcefive, on 10/10/2007, -0/+9I'm sure you can still dive into xorg.conf if you want to, this just makes it easier and quicker for people who don't know or don't want to know about editing config files
PS I hope someone fixes the typo in that second screenshot - trogdoor, on 10/10/2007, -0/+8Configure dual monitors among other things.
- aaronm67, on 10/10/2007, -0/+8hyperair
In defense of ToadLeg, once you mess up your xorg for the first time, unless you know what you're doing, it's fairly difficult to configure your network and get online, and even if you can get that far without online help, some people don't know they have a command line browser. Searching google and searching online isn't an option if you don't have internet or a webbrowser.
Also, it's pretty difficult to remember commands like that, and it wont work correctly if you make a single typo, and if you can't get online to check to make sure the command is correct...what are you supposed to do? If you're new...you know you can install the distro, you know yours is messed up to where you don't know what to do, doesn't reinstalling seem like a good option?
Alex was flamebaiting, he called Toadleg a moron for no good reason. Toadleg is obviously new to Linux, and nobody knows how to do everything from the command line right off. - jacobmp92, on 10/10/2007, -1/+9...or XFCE. Or KDE if you are using the GTK-Qt library.
- byrdgang, on 10/10/2007, -0/+8For critical components such as Xorg, they should really delay the release so that that 7.3 can be implemented. It's worth the delay, and I don't think people will complain. It's not like we're talking about delaying the release so that a game can be added.
- aaronm67, on 10/10/2007, -0/+7@AlexFerny
There are hundreds of command line editors (cat,nano,pico,emacs,vim, less,more...etc) that wasn't the point. If you don't know the name of any of them, how are you supposed to open that file to get the command? When you first start Linux, the command line is pretty foreign, you're not automatically going to know nano. - ha1f, on 10/10/2007, -1/+8Hopefully theyll release this tool as a standalone thats not too dependent on gnome, so that other distros and windowing environments can use it.
- ha1f, on 10/10/2007, -0/+7lol, really? because afaik dual screen on xp is plug and play.
- Pilot85, on 10/10/2007, -1/+8don't forget configuring tv out for your mythboxes of the world.
- MeneerR, on 10/10/2007, -0/+7It's definately Glossy on Gutsy. (it's different from the Glossy on Feisty. I guess even Themes get updated)
- BigJ27, on 10/10/2007, -0/+7gnome already has a gui for changing the screen resolution. But it is about time we have a gui to change other things.
I'm especially excited about the dual screen setup, much better than trying to add another screen to xorg.conf - inactive, on 10/10/2007, -0/+7wow @ "if X cannot start, a fail-save X server will launch running this configuration utility" i can't wait, that does sound great! So far the xorg problems have been a major draw back i think this will really further linux!
- Sparkster185, on 10/10/2007, -0/+7That's my question too. I've been able to update my resolution/etc. in KDE for a long time.
- Sparkster185, on 10/10/2007, -3/+10KDE has has all the "features" listed in the article for quite a while.
- mitrick, on 10/10/2007, -2/+8for sure ill update to gutsy as soon i have that new tool now all linux users will be able to to some dualscreen easily
- jacobmp92, on 10/10/2007, -0/+6Out of curiosity, where does it say that? All I wrote was the feature was specific to Ubuntu, meaning it is a change that only happened in Ubuntu. I know about Sax2 and all, but this is the first time _Ubuntu_ is getting any features like this.
And yes, I wrote the article. - ToadLeg, on 10/10/2007, -3/+9I know that now. Of course I meant when I was first getting set up with Linux. I don't touch the xorg.conf file anymore.
- whiteguysamurai, on 10/10/2007, -0/+5Why did this take so damn long?
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