What is Digg?Sponsored by Rockstar Games
Grand Theft Auto: Episodes from Liberty City view!
rockstargames.com - Out Now on Disc for Xbox 360. Includes The Lost and Damned plus the all-new The Ballad of Gay Tony.
69 Comments
- pcx99, on 10/12/2007, -21/+48*WARNING* NOT POLITICALLY CORRECT:
I just spent most of this week working with Ubuntu. I needed to re-install Windows (the two year cleanout) and decided to give Ubuntu a try since I don't really use anything Microsoft specific save for a few valve games.
If you're not a hardcore computer enthusiast or a professional (or working to become a professional) you really shouldn't attempt to install Ubuntu. The desktop provides an adequate experience but the installation process is not ready for prime time and since there's some sort of nerd-code about installing wireless binary and video drivers, that's just not going to change.
You'll be sent to a command line to install most of the stuff the install missed. It's not too difficult to type in the line to get your video card drivers but hey if it missed your monitor (which it did mine, which is an NEC monitor btw not exactly an off-brand) you'll be stuck at 1024 resolution even if your monitor DEMANDS 1290 until you correctly query google to find a message thread instructing you to edit and modify a config file.
If you leave all your data on one disk and it happens to be in ntfs format (which XP likes to do) be prepared to have the documentation in the operating system tell you to look for an app which is not in your menu and the web-based startup guide to tell you to install (in the command line) an app which does not exist. But if you manage to figure out you're supposed to google ntfs-3g then you'll find the author's site and a few warnings about how write access is dangerous and all that. Sucks for you if your linux is on a smaller drive than your data because there will be no way to work around that little catch if you decide to abandon the ntfs.
After that be prepared to do some serious hunting to find down all the little things that come in windows by default but aren't there in Linux like the ability to play mp3s, wvms although when you do find the drivers (search easyubuntu) you'll get everything you need to play everything under creation as well as common web fonts. It also crashed my nvidia driver and I spent another half hour repairing the damage (well beyond the ability of "casual" users).
I installed Beryl (the equivalent of vista's glass) and it is beautiful and hellaciously fun until you try to scroll a web page in firefox and discover what once was silky smooth video response turns into 2fps rolling freeze-frames. My system is single core 2.4g with a 6600 nvidia card so maybe a beefier system can handle it I dunno, but unless you have a seriously beefy system I wouldn't recommend Beryl just yet.
Past that, although Ubuntu is really working on things, Linux is just plain ugly. The fonts aren't smoothed, everything takes up too much horizontal space, you just feel cramped with wretchedly ugly fonts surrounding you. I read once where Steve Jobs took a calligraphy class in college and applied that appreciation and understanding of fonts into the mac, and Windows of course copied that philosophy. Out of the Box, windows fonts look ok, you can make them great by getting the power toy ( http://www.microsoft.com/typography/ClearTypePowerToy.mspx ). Mac is the same, out of the box beautiful.
If you MUST play with linux do it on a machine you're retiring. Turn it into a web/file/media server. It's just not there on the desktop yet. That's not politically correct, but its true. You have to be VERY tech savy to get it working, when you do, you get the gnome interface which is -- if you can believe this -- a dumbed down shell (phd to install, grade school to operate and don't think about doing anything advanced like find out where the application resides in the file system).
Until SOMEONE in the Linux community can get over the phobia about binary drivers and make the install process as idiot proof as gnome, Linux is just not ready for the desktop and until SOMEONE can really nail the font technology and tweak the interface so that every graphic element doesn't have a 50pixel padding on the horizontal axis, it's just not going to measure up well to Windows and Mac in my book.
It's getting closer, the desktop really is adequate for most people (until they have to re-install) but it's just not there yet. Still the best web/file/media server in the world though and a great OS for a retired machine. - jcaino, on 10/12/2007, -0/+20the point of a release like this is so that technophiles like us can download this on our high-speed connections, burn a couple of copies and hand them out to a few people to try out.
i know thats what I plan on doing. - TheeMahn, on 10/12/2007, -1/+20I asked them not to put it on Digg yet, until it is mirrored and I quote:
"Countdown in effect:
No Digg until mirror(s) have it please..
20 minutes until upload finishes...
10 minutes ...
5 minutes ...
Fully uploaded downloading to make sure you all get a good copy..."
I am not going to Digg my own release I hope it fails to be dugg knocked my server offline last time. 13,000+ downloads in 1 day is more then I like to take. At least they dugg the torrent and not the website :)
For a list of things that have been fixed / added please view this http://ubuntusoftware.info/ultimate/#1.2 dual core issue is now a thing of the past. I have a Ubuntu Ultimate Gamers Edition coming just to keep you all informed. - GMorgan, on 10/12/2007, -2/+18The wireless issue has improved quite a bit. If you're using a card from a crappy manufacturer who doesn't support his products (and we've yet to reimplement a driver ourselves) then there is little that can be done and you have to use ndiswrapper. Most wireless cards work fine with Linux now though and with NetworkManager slowly becoming standard wireless is becoming less painful.
Windows XP does not have proper MP3 support as default because they wanted to avoid paying a license so instead invented WMA. You have to add MP3 support by either downloading a codec or installing a newer WMP. The same goes for DVD, no default playback in XP. This is all exactly the same as Linux.
As for Beryl. It runs fine with my Intel GMA950. By fine I mean it works without any slowdown whatsoever. I call FUD on that since it simply isn't true that Beryl could do that to a 6th generation Nvidia card. I've seen it run fine on a 4 MX card. It is far more efficient than anything from MS or Apple and has more plugins.
The default resolution thing is admittedly a problem in a few cases though auto detection has greatly improved and is a key issue for future X.org releases. It isn't helped where the Intel card doesn't support many wide screen resolutions as default and you have to use a tool to hack it's memory to add the appropriate resolution. There is a way around this of course but we will have to see what happens. - TechCF, on 10/12/2007, -0/+11To those with Beryl issues, you realize it's version 0.2.00 RC2 right?
And don't judge Ubuntu by Beryl. It's like saying Windows is bad because Math for Kids v0.3 sucks - sishgupta, on 10/12/2007, -0/+11I wish the gtk2 theme wasn't so...bad looking. Sorry to the maker of the theme.
There are some really really nice themes for gnome out there...it would be nice to have one by default. - aliciadiggsit, on 10/12/2007, -0/+6I'm sorry you had such a hard time. I just installed ubuntu yesterday. I am far from a computer expert but I was able to get everything up and running in a half an hour, at most. After reading all these horror stories I had planned on spending the whole day messing around with it.
- BenjaminG, on 10/12/2007, -0/+6You don't have to use command line for 99% of installations if you don't want to. You could have installed everything through Synaptic. Also, it's not Ubuntu nor Linux's fault if companies don't provide drivers, it is Broadcom's fault that everyone has difficulties (not really very difficult though, there is a one line solution to installing ndiswrapper and broadcom's drivers, it's a script that does everything for you) with their cards on Linux.
I think Linux fonts in general look way better than Windows XP (with ClearType). Linux is sharp, windows is fuzzy. It looks odd at first, and thus you think the Windows fonts look nicer, but now understand that it's just because Windows fonts (on my fiance's Windows XP laptop and my Windows 2000 development machine at work) are fuzzy compared to most Linux fonts. - johnstar, on 10/12/2007, -0/+5I made a version of edgy with a skull and cross bones background and mp3 support, should I have a Ubuntu pirate edition?
- sembetu, on 10/12/2007, -0/+5hmm. I hate to be pedantic, but...
I have four machines running on my desk at the same time in complete harmony:
center: Mac Mini - Mac OS 10.4.8
left: HP zv5160us Laptop - Windows XP Professional Corporate SP2
right: e-Machine (that's right a crappy e-machine) - Ubuntu GNU/Linux Ultimate Edition 1.2
bottom: Powerbook 12" - Mac OS 10.4.8
I only give these basic specs, to say this IMHO: Installing Linux may seem daunting to some at first, but Ubuntu Ultimate Edition, was EXTREMELY easy for me to set up. As a matter of fact, it required almost no work at all. I dropped the disk in, and it booted up. From the desktop, I ran the automatic installer. After about 45 min, and a couple of changes to the "look and feel" I was set. I have a frickin' Celeron D, and onboard Intel Video for Christ's sake. Seriously, this eMachine is the machine I recovered from my wife, when I switched her to a Mac, and I am sure that theoretically, it should not be working this hard.
I am not a hardware guy. I like software, and I like to see what software can do. I don't spend a whole lot of time customizing my desktops, but I, like most, do enjoy a little bit of my personality on my machines. UUE has got to be the easiest way to get there for me. I don't know how they did it, but, it just runs great, and I have a full Beryl Desktop running. Seriously, glass effects, wobble, 3d cube with my mouse, the whole bit. As a matter of fact, it is actually pretty enjoyable.
So, I don't know where this "Linux is Hard" stuff comes from, but you sound to me like a pretty savvy computer user yourself, I would think that the issues on which you provided feedback would be mere distractions, and only exist in an older distro. Perhaps you should give UUE a try, or maybe one of the other what I would call "All in one" distros. Say, maybe FC6, or OpenSuSE 10.2. The great thing about Linux is if you don't like what you have, you can try something else, and then something else, and eventually there is bound to be a distro or a community where you will feel comfortable and welcome.
Think about this: I have never seen someone working on a Dell, Compaq, HP, Toshiba or any other "regular PC" with any variant of Windows installed have someone come up to them and say, "Hey, I see you're running Windows there! I'm a Windows user, too! ... [insert conversation here...]" Seriously, I have never seen anyone excited over the fact that they, or anybody else, is using Windows. However, I have seen plenty of people walk up to random strangers and say, "Hey, I'm a Mac user, too! Is that the new MBP, (or whatever Mac product the person is using)?" or "Hey! You're running Linux! What's your distro? Oh, you like KDE? I prefer Gnome... [insert conversation here]...". I have seen it plenty, and you know what I get from that? people are not only happy using *nix variants, they are more willing to be community oriented when they work in *nix variants. I don't know why, but it is true.
Here's my point: I use all three systems on a daily basis, because I like to thoroughly test all my work in a variety of environments; I'm just anal that way. But besides that, I think I can fairly say where the greatest level of comfort, reliability, and general enjoyment can be found. And, once again, IMHO, I think that there are DEFINITELY bounteous GNU/Linux distros from which to choose, and nitpicking some minor flaws only serves to muddy the waters of improvement. We all know that all operating systems have their flaws. They are created by people, after all. There isn't really any need to have a pissing contest over which one is harder to use, because there are people who are just as clueless on a Windows, or (God help them) Mac machine as they are on a Linux box.
Seriously, if you want to point a finger at where the greatest flaws in the usage of computers are, look first to the users. I mean, user error has got to be the number one cause of user distress, no? How many of us have helped or moms, dads, grandmas, grandpas, aunts, uncles, sisters, wives, girlfriends, brothers, etc. with things that seem to be relatively minor; requiring nothing more than a little persistence. You walk up to the computer, and either it seems to magically work now, or the problem is fixed with a couple of keystrokes. Those are user-level issues. You can't fix them, unless the person wants to change.
Back when I was starting out on computers, programming in BASIC, and using Ataris, and Commodores, you had to actually do something to make the computer do anything more than play a game cartridge. If you wanted to run a program, you had to TELL the computer to run the program. With COMMANDS. If you do that to a computer user nowadays, you might be shot at. General computer usability is a good thing though, and it is because of better and better designs in GUI usability, that the computer has spread across the enterprise and consumer spaces. However, an unfortunate casualty of the progress in intuitiveness is the ability of the average person to see the computer for what it is: a machine that accepts COMMANDS to accomplish TASKS. Most people today see their computers as "appliances". They have been so systematically removed from what is happening within the machine, that it has become just another gadget, like a cell phone, or a tv.
In any case, I think your observations are not really accurately directed. I don't necessarily believe that people should have to be programmers, or have a CS degree to use computers, but they should be made aware that because of the fact that these machines are built by humans, and we are as yet unable to do anything flawlessly or to perfection (even the things we do best are still being improved), there will be a certain degree of entropy within any machine you use. Eventually it will break. Something on it will need fixing. It might be a fan bearing, it might be the permissions, it might be the display settings, or a PSU. Whatever. Something will break, whether it be software or hardware. If this is understood at the outset, and computers are treated like the task oriented machines that they are instead of anthropomorphic meta-machines, then perhaps many of the issues you refer to would be relegated to assessed risk instead of greeted with the frustration that "this machine is doing to me again".
Well, I apologize for the long windedness, but I really do believe that there is more to whatever system you use than your expectations, and when you or whomever uses whatever system they choose, the more they are aware of the possible flaws, and embrace them as learning opportunities, the better off they will be, regardless of any personal philosophy on the nature of software and how it is owned, distributed, or managed. - mubix, on 10/12/2007, -0/+5an "Ultimate" edition of any OS is not made for a minimalist
- hbusa2003, on 10/12/2007, -0/+5ahhhh good timesdownloading at 40kb and uploading at 108kb gotta love bit torrent
- sexycommando, on 10/12/2007, -2/+7does anyone else think the original ubuntu looks better?
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -2/+7Do you have games for the Ultimate Gamers Edition coming too?
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -1/+6dude... cap your upload..
it'll make your torrent faster if you are on adsl.
But then again its because of people like you that bittorrent survives. - darthmullet, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3Direct download of the torrent file from Demonoid (it will work with correct tracker), if the LinuxTracker.org gets wasted by digg or whatever else y'all are worried about...
http://www.demonoid.com/files/download/1035775/8728035/ - DroidBlender, on 09/18/2008, -0/+3@TheeMan: Thanks so much for your work with this. I haven't used your edition since I like customizing my own version. Thanks for all the modules anf guides you wrote for reconstructor. Keep up the awesome work :)
- kyrre, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3The advantage of having this DVD would be that Synaptic will install lots of software from the disc rather than downloading from the Internet. Not really a big issue unless you are on a modem or is offline. Updated software need to be downloaded anyway.
- TheeMahn, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2Pease, Please I moved the site many times prior due to bandwidth 2 Terabytes is plenty for any Host and the ones that offer unlimited are a joke. 2TB in 4 days, more then most would see in a month, we are looking for a mirror that can take the beating... You will be named not only on the homepage Google PR5 by the way as well as download link, most people pay for things like these.
- maino82, on 10/12/2007, -1/+3"Capture card support - TVTime / ATI-All-in-wonder"
Can anyone confirm this? For the longest time I've always been told that the All-in-wonder series cards are not able to capture video on linux due to driver issues. I'd love to be able to use my x880 AIW with mythtv on by Ubuntu box though! - tkstock, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2I tried installing Edgy Eft on my Windows XP box last night (started at 8:30pm, had to give up at 1:30am) I wanted to dual boot. Granted, a good portion of my problem is I'm a noob with Linux, but I'm a computer professional fairly well versed in hardware and windows-based software.
Hardware: P4 2.8GHz 1GB RAM, 256MB GeForce FX 5600, 160GB SATA, 80GB SATA, 60GB IDE with dual screen (widescreen LCD and 17" CRT)
I initially created a 15GB partition on a extended partition on my primary drive (160GB SATA). Using the Ubuntu LiveCD, I split up the 15GB into an 8GB root, 6GB home, and the rest to swap. The default GRUB location of HD0 was not correct apparently - rebooting sent me right back into Windows. Since I couldn't figure out how to "move" the grub or reinstall it via command line, I had to reinstall Ubuntu again. This time the GRUB went to sda6, where it was supposed to go. After rebooting, I got an error - "Incorrect partition" for Ubuntu option. When I tried the windows option, I got "ntldr not found" error. Yikes. After some googling, I edited the GRUB and changed the location to HD(0,5). Now I was able to boot to Ubuntu. Yay! Next, to the Network Setup. First, I had to enable the connection, which worked pretty well, then I had to download all the updates, which went relatively painless.
Next, I had to do something about the dual screen - my primary widescreen LCD was running in 1024X768 and my CRT was flashing hideously (had to turn it off, as a matter of fact, before I started having seizures). So, I went to the nVidia website and downloaded the .run file I needed that had all the latest drivers. I opened up a terminal window and attempted to run it (sudo sh [file]) It started up then informed me that I had to stop the Xserver. How do I do that? So I reboot and start in recovery mode. I change directories to my desktop and attempt to run the file again - again there is an error - something about being in level 1 and it needed me to be in level 3! (fortunately, it gave me a command to take me there: teleinit 3) After typing in the command, the GDM started up again! Dammit! After googling, I found out how to run the script "/etc/init.d/gdm stop" to stop the Xserver. Then I ran the file again. It then informed me I needed to download some development packages before installation. I did that. I ran the file again. More warnings say that there may potentially be problems with the install - it couldn't connect to an FTP site to download what it needed, so it had to rebuild the kernel. After doing all this, I restarted the GDM, and was able to reconfigure the desktop using the nVidia software to run dual-screen successfully! It looked beautiful! Then...
I tried to reboot.
After selecting the Ubuntu menu item (Windows still doesn't work at this point), the Xserver bombs and I'm thrown out to the command line. Dammit! I attempt to reinstall the drivers, attempt to uninstall them, revert to the legacy driver, but I can't get the GDM to restart. Now Windows doesn't work and Ubuntu doesn't either. I hope to spend another less than 5 hours on it tonight to get it working...
Do you think the average user would EVER want to go through this? Linux has a LONG way to go before it can make it in the general public. - TheeMahn, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2Once again I will take the time to try to educate... Please start here: http://ubuntusoftware.info/beryl.html you have the same video card as I have currently don't copy my xorg I have twinview, provided you run Ultimate or Edgy for that matter. Please utilize the information I provide. I apologize things are missing from the page, I have had to move the website 3 times and things get left behind.
- Oldschoolhack, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2I'm pretty new to Linux, and I've managed to set up my wireless, beryl and ubuntu on my laptop with relatively little trouble. There are many people who use linux that are willing to help you out in any way that you need. The arguement "Linux sucks cause I cant do ...." isn't really valid anymore. I am still learning how to use Linux, but that doesn't deter me because I knew I would have to learn something in order to fully appreciate what it has to offer.
My advice to anyone trying a Linux distro, is to ask yourself "Am I truely willing to give myself time to learn all the benefits of this OS, or am I only going to look at the surface of this OS and call it done?"
Too many people I know who tried Linux weren't TRUELY willing to deviate from their comfort zone of Windows. - damndj, on 10/12/2007, -8/+10Bravo, pcx99. You've described everything I take issue with in regards to Linux.
- Spr0k3t, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2Will be seeding the torrent for a few weeks here.
- shanesemler, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2I agree. I don't usually comment on how a distro looks but this is really ugly. If they are going to spend all the time to make a monster version of Ubuntu, they really should get a good graphics person.
- TheeMahn, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2My god it blows my mind how many people can see what happens and has knocked me offline before. I will try and address issues asked, from top to bottom thanks Raver.
fkr2:
1405138 extents written (2744 MB)
Build Time: 0:52.45 CPU: 11%
ISO Located: /media/BigMac/ubuntu-gamers1.2.iso
Build Complete...
It will be much larger by time of release newest wine and have games such as but not limited to:
please excuse the names ls > games.txt
actioncube
alienarena
blobconquer
cube
legends
nexuiz
open_arena
rtcw
sauerbraten
For the grownups :)
Board Games:
Many, Many, Many
I have plenty of games for the kiddies most are educational.
a 1 stop shop of a distro, if you will.
when I am done I will write pages to educate others as I have started far from done. - djauto23, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2@aliciadiggsit:
yeah, me too. when i was going to upgrade to edgy on my laptop, i waited until the semester was over since i need my laptop in my studying, and i was afraid something might go wrong. when i then upgraded, in the holidays, it took me just 30 mins, and i was like "hu? was that it?", and i could start to play around with beryl and other things i like straight away. my laptop's got an nvidia go5200, and although i wouldn't argue that beryl is quite ready for general usage, it runs with no problemo whatsoever on my machine. pity that i have to install the nvidia drivers seperatly, but then again i guess you'd have to do that on XP and even Vista too.
generally i think that as long as pc's are made up of different combinations of arbitary hardware (network cards, gfx cards, etc), there's always gonna be some ups and downs in installing the OS and any drivers it requires. i do not doubt in anything about pcx99's story, but if you want i can easily throw you a horrorstory or two like that one about any version of windows too. reminds me for example of when i switched soundcards, and XP just wouldn't play along, whereas linux had no trouble at all.
really, the only solution there is is the one apple has chosen, you know your hardware and you specialize your software according to that. apple doesn't have to deal with different combinations of hardware in the same degree pc-os manufacturers do. yeah, i know, you get laptops with windows ready set up and all, but it just isn't the same as with a mac.
the future of linux might not lie in being a primary os for any IBM-compatible PC, but in specialized devices wich are beginning to get more common. making inroads on things like the openmoko phone, the nokia tablet, or other non-PC devices, could prove successful in my impression.
really i don't think the question is wich one of the os's are better or worse, it's more a question of in wich degree you can get your HW+SW to work together, and this can be done with more or less success on both windows and gnu/linux. - mubix, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2Check out Beryl's forums for help, they helped me a lot
- doczein, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1TheeMan, i'm having some trouble getting Beryl to work. The main reason I installed Ubuntu Ultimate was because Beryl was pre-installed, and everytime I tried to install Beryl on the normal Ubuntu distro I could never get it to work. Each time I tried to start the Beryl Windows Manager, it just restarted GNOME and took me back to the login screen. When I logged it, it just reverted back to the normal windows manager. Is there any way to fix this? I'm using an NVIDIA GeForce 6800GT.
Also, is there a way to revert the theme and login screen back to the normal Ubuntu one? - TomP, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1and its down =(
- hbusa2003, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1mirror please?
- xerosis, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1Just to clarify, this has nothing to do with the official Ubuntu project from Canonical. This is just someone installing more packages, and an ugly gtk theme.
- mjpatey, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1I love Ubuntu, but brushed aluminum? Eew. I hope that's not the default!
- scoggy, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1I'm a Linuz n00b whose recently installed Ubuntu Edgy Eft (and Beryl) on my laptop. Is there much on this distro which would improve my experience? If so, could I "upgrade" to this set up easily? (i.e. without a reinstall.)
Wish I'd seen this sort of thing before I installed the standard version. - TheeMahn, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1If you use the generic Nvidia drivers integrated on the disk from edgys repos, if you were to install it and use this page http://ubuntusoftware.info/beryl.html using the NVidia section, I don't encourage the beryl section unless you know how to fix problems. I assure the results you are looking for. Beryl is built in and goes along with it when you install, there is no way I can build a disk to support NVidia, ATI and Intel off the rip as the xorg is different. Generic drivers I can provide, just not specific as I understand now.
- Vlakhen, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1v1.1 broke my windows install after i booted from the cd. Now i can't boot windows unless the windows disc inserted. I hope this is fixed now.
- lbradeen, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1If you're 10mbit up by 1mbit down and uploading at 108kb/sec then there's no way you're going to get good download speeds.
Downloading data by any protocol that does error checking requires that packets be sent out and if your outbound connection is swamped those packets will be delayed thereby slowing your download. I usually keep about 30kbyte of outbound overhead for downloading though im sure someone can do the math and tell you a better number. - cmdrNacho, on 10/12/2007, -1/+2This guy should of got dugg down. Again... its not the fact that linux is hard or bad... its people are so trained to use windows.. learning another OS is impossible to grasp new concepts. Read a book. Yes when you first used windows.. it took some time to figure everything out. Linux will work out of the box.. but when you want customize it then yes.. it takes some comprehension on how to do it.
- hbusa2003, on 10/12/2007, -1/+2im on cable 10m down and 1m up
- TheeMahn, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0Thank you for your kind comments, Ubuntu Ultimate Gamers Edition is burnt and ready for testing new theme too for those interested, I will have screenshots up in a few days.
- SF007, on 09/28/2008, -0/+0Super Ubuntu is also a cool distro:
http://hacktolive.org/su - TheeMahn, on 10/12/2007, -1/+1Beryl has been an issue with this as well as any release, I feel Beryl has gotten to a point and I can't say SVN as of yet. Stable: yes... nothing to what I see I also provide others to learn how to have SVN built beryl, does not mean I force that upon them? Latest stable release is what I provide in the repo, I'm not here to crush your first taste of Linux, nor am I here to put a bad taste in your mouth for the Linux Guru.
- TheeMahn, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0Try the Live DVD if it works it will work when installed. I could not say that with 1.1
- TheeMahn, on 10/12/2007, -1/+1I'd like to reply to you personally the gtk theme you see is an error in firefox is it my job to fix it? no & yes I have taken the time and fix their problems will be built in in Gamers Edition, what you see below is your answer:
Firefox:
If web forms and controls appear dark and unreadable you need to edit the css files that Firefox uses. The file location may vary on different linux distributions.
1. Backup the original file:
sudo mv /usr/lib/firefox/res/forms.css /usr/lib/firefox/res/forms_backup.css
2. Replace it with the provided forms.css
sudo mv //Neutronium-GTK2/forms.css /usr/lib/firefox/res/forms.css
3. Then you need to edit html.css:
sudo gedit /usr/lib/firefox/res/html.css
Around line 60, change:
body {
display: block;
margin: 8px;
}
To:
body {
background-color: white;
color: black;
display: block;
margin: 8px;
}
Save the file, then restart Firefox, and you should have standard colours. - ElbowGeek, on 10/12/2007, -2/+2Exacterly!
What gets me is that there's so many things operations which are well documented, such as getting the video drivers to work properly and configuring wireless, that there is no excuse for either having these things run during the installation routine or at least making some utility or wizard which wiull lead you by the hand through the processes of doing so.
Ubuntu is indeed ready for primetime in corporations in which one has a Linux guru on hand to configure things and solve problems, or for the family which has a guru in house, but there will come a day when every Ubuntu user will have to go to the command line to type something that is so arcane and bizarre that one slip of the keyboard will render the system useless. No excuses for this state of affairs.
Cheers - tkstock, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0try booting to the Windows CD in recovery mode. At the command line, type "fixboot"
That might help. - tkstock, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0My dad has a hard enough time with Windows! :)
Don't get me wrong, I think Ubuntu is amazing for a free software and I'm trying to learn it's intracacies, but any implication that software / driver installation is as painless in Linux as it is in Windows is head-in-the-sand fallacy. My next post down just illustrates this point.
Maybe if someone created a good installer for Linux (package manager is getting somewhat close) and installers were able to foresee problems before screwing up your system, that might make Linux more-palatable to the masses. The reason why Windows is so successful is the same reason why it's so bloated and has the security holes it has - it's able to handle almost all of the hardware issues when being installed on computers, and in most cases it handles those issues automatically with transparency to the user.
This makes it great for the common man and increases the complexity and potential for security risks - are the risks worth the reward? They are if you are a casual user who wants to use the computer without having to learn the OS. - TheeMahn, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0Dual Core processor I assume... Yes it has been fixed.
-
Show 51 - 70 of 70 discussions
© Digg Inc. 2009
— Content created and posted by Digg users is