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- mournsanity, on 03/21/2008, -5/+82Yeah, we kinda do.
- mournsanity, on 03/21/2008, -2/+69Torrents here:
i386: http://releases.ubuntu.com/releases/8.04/ubuntu-8. ...
amd64: http://releases.ubuntu.com/releases/8.04/ubuntu-8. ... - android6011, on 03/21/2008, -0/+42you can use either, since that processor supports 64bit. 32 bit might have better driver support or fewer bugs for your other hardware, you'll just have to check around
- android6011, on 03/21/2008, -0/+36it helps me keep track of time
- angers, on 03/21/2008, -2/+36isn't that the point of digg? not having to browse a million websites?
- muzzamo, on 03/21/2008, -2/+35just stick with the i386 version. It will give you the least trouble.
- geoken, on 03/21/2008, -0/+31Yeah, that's right. His comment is being dugg down because it's anti-ubuntu and not because it's totally pointless and entirely devoid of a logical argument or humorous quip.
- spltimg, on 03/21/2008, -3/+34Just finished installing and I got to say I like what I see
- agentlame, on 03/21/2008, -0/+30I was happy to hear about it.
- akkibaba, on 03/21/2008, -0/+27"you can use either..."
The first four words answer the question, straight up. The other words add nuance and choice.That's how most Linux answers work. - FlyingLlama, on 03/21/2008, -2/+25transmission is now included instead of the default gnome bittorrent client!
- FlyingLlama, on 03/21/2008, -7/+30I love how in Ubuntu, everything is included.
I dont need to go installing Office and all my other apps because almost everything i need is default.
This is great!! - sarixe, on 03/21/2008, -2/+24***** MTV
- snowblindnz, on 03/21/2008, -3/+25I cant wait to install the final version next month. This will be my 3rd update since I first installed/switched to Ubuntu/linux. Just as I feel my OS getting a little old and stale, 6 months has rolled around and I can do a new fresh install.
- Nerevar, on 03/21/2008, -0/+21I still think the default client should be deluge, but at least this is better than the default one.
- sloppychris, on 03/21/2008, -0/+20Hence the diggs. Isn't that obvious?
- Nerevar, on 03/21/2008, -2/+21I think you got the inequality wrong, so I fixed it for you.
Vista < OSX < Ubuntu - reddevil3, on 03/21/2008, -4/+22Ok so I'm a total noob when it comes to such stuff. I recently bought a Core 2 Quad (haven't gotten it yet) and I want to install Ubuntu on it. I have to install the amd64 version on it right?
- KloroFormd, on 03/21/2008, -0/+17It's 4GB or more.
- cornflakepirate, on 03/21/2008, -0/+17Not really. The Live CDs for the last few releases have all been close to the 700MB limit. Every time they want to add to the live cd, they need to take something out.
- evilxhwnd, on 03/21/2008, -0/+16nvidia drivers support 64bit platform. I am using Linux 64bit and i have no driver issues.
- arcticblue, on 03/21/2008, -1/+16You are very wrong. Flash and java work just find on amd64. I'm using it right now. The only reason you shouldn't use the amd64 build is if you need to use ndiswrapper for your wireless driver.
- arcticblue, on 03/21/2008, -1/+16The theme got pushed back to a later release. The Ubuntu team has a habit of doing that...
- starkruzr, on 03/21/2008, -0/+15Because no one gives a ***** about stupid entertainment "news?"
- charlie763, on 03/21/2008, -1/+16I'm seeding the hell out of this. FiOS is sweet!
- oobuntu, on 03/21/2008, -0/+14if it's buggy, please report the bugs! thats the point of beta.
- lyrell, on 03/21/2008, -0/+14That's because there is no one right way to do things. There are advantages and disadvantages to 32 and 64 bit, and the response to the original question was essentially that you can use either (which is correct). Without more details as to what the user would need it is impossible to say one is better than the other. It's like asking "which distro should I use?" Or to put it in non-linux terms, "I need a way to get to work. What should I buy/use?" You could buy a motorcycle or a car, and in those categories fall tons of options. You could take public transportation, which could be a bus or a train. You could carpool. There is no universal "best" option.
Anyway, 64 bit is technically faster (I think) with 64-bit applications, which most linux applications have versions of. It's not like, say, Windows XP x64 where it can be hard to find drivers and most programs you install are 32-bit anyway. The most often discussed disadvantage is that flash is a bitch to get working on 64-bit, since there is no "official" 64-bit linux flash. You can try to get the 32-bit one working, or you can use third-party flash plugins such as gnash or swfdec, though those both have problems. I'm using swfdec on 64-bit Arch Linux and a lot of flash videos won't play. Youtube's will, fortunately.
But yeah, to answer the original question, "look around," as they say. - sarixe, on 03/21/2008, -13/+26there is no flash or java for amd64, and no propietary graphics drivers afaik. if you're prepared to be missing a lot of stuff, go ahead and use amd64, but it's definitely not necessary, and i wouldn't recommend it. i'm running intel core 2 duo with an i386 ubuntu and it works great.
- loganm10, on 03/21/2008, -1/+14I have flash and java on 64bit ubuntu (through seemless 32bit compatibility) , anyone with a 64bit processor should use the 64bit version
- Myztry, on 03/21/2008, -1/+14You need to step outside of your box!
- MeneerR, on 03/21/2008, -1/+14Majoring in IT?
Yeah, you better make sure you get _some_ experience.
On the server side, linux is king. - MeneerR, on 03/21/2008, -0/+12Both will work. If you have more than 2 gigs of memory, use the 64-bit version.
If you have 2 gigs or less of memory, you are better of with the 32-bit version. Same performance, better compatibility. (think things like flash, w32codecs, getdeb.net packages)
So you are better off with 32-bit, unless you need to address more than 2 (or was it 4) gigs of memory. - debuggercll, on 03/21/2008, -1/+12That's the kind of thing I'm interested in. A sort of menses.
- KloroFormd, on 03/21/2008, -1/+12Why did you waste the effort to come to the article then?
- vibrokatana, on 03/21/2008, -0/+11The 64bit builds are getting better though. Primarily the reasons to use 32bit in the past was due to 64bit flash never being released from adobe, but nswrapper pretty much covers that base by wrapping 32bit plugins to the 64bit browser. As it is maturing packages are being offered in both the x86 and x86_64 variety side by side, so you can have both libraries/programs installed at once. (note: most of this is relating to my install of 64bit Fedora and I haven't used ubuntu in awhile)
- dasunst3r, on 03/21/2008, -4/+15I wouldn't call it "bloat," but rather programs you prefer to not use. Indeed, I delete about 200 MB in programs I will never use, but I also add the same amount (if not more) back on in terms of programs that I use on an everyday basis -- Adobe Reader, VLC, Flash, Java, codecs, etc.
- agaudet, on 03/21/2008, -1/+12Yes it does
Re: VirtualBox - jjed824, on 03/21/2008, -3/+14Ubuntu is the* *****
Fixed. - sloppychris, on 03/21/2008, -0/+11I don't have a floppy drive and didn't run into anything like that. The people at Ubuntu Forums have been nothing but the best in solving problems. 99% of the time I have a question I do a quick search over there and it's already answered.
http://ubuntuforums.org/ - Disease, on 03/21/2008, -0/+11They've officially stopped supporting the PPC version back with 6.10. You can still find PPC images of later versions but they're not officially supported.
http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/ports/releases/gutsy/rel ... - vertexoflife, on 03/21/2008, -2/+13Booyeah! Going to get Kubuntu Hardy Heron.
- Myztry, on 03/21/2008, -1/+11He must have been referring to resource wastage
- dacheetah, on 03/21/2008, -1/+11In my experience:
Ubuntu > XP > OSX > OS9 > getting shot in the face >> Vista
(XP gets in higher than OSX despite OSX having the far superior kernel. Also due to the ridiculous market share windows has, XP can be useful.) - Balla79, on 03/21/2008, -0/+9Because it's a kernel. I bet the NT kernel looks just as crappy.
- arcticblue, on 03/21/2008, -0/+9You know, I really like SuSE. Alot. It has a much nicer professional polish than Ubuntu does. But the thing that made me go back to Ubuntu was SuSE's horrible package management. It is so freaking slow (and I'm on fairly modern hardware) and the dependency checker is confusing as hell. I dreaded each and every time I had to install a piece of software because I knew it was going to take forever and slow my system way down to the point that I couldn't do anything else. Oh, and if I did go do something else, Yast made sure to keep stealing focus each and every time the progress bar made it to 100% (which is many, many times). The first thing I did every time I turned on my computer was kill the updater in the task bar because it would make my system extremely sluggish while it took its sweet time checking for updates.
It's a nice distro, and Yast has good intentions, but it's just too frustratingly slow to use on a day to day basis. - sloppychris, on 03/21/2008, -2/+11I would say it has more features than other linux distros, but Ubuntu has made a name for itself by going against tradition. It's not perfect, but Ubuntu is responsible for a ton of converts. To me, a few extra features will convince more people to switch so it's worth it. There are lots of distros for more advanced users, or you can do what you did and spend like two minutes unchecking a few boxes.
- dcherryholmes, on 03/21/2008, -0/+9To me, bloat in a linux distro would be installing more than one video player, more than one music player, more than one GUI text editor, etc etc etc (I'm looking at you, SuSe circa 2000). Can you give some examples of things off the base install that you consider bloat? Just curious, because one man's bloat is another man's "worked out of the box."
- Disease, on 03/21/2008, -0/+9Tell me more. What's your reasoning?
- sumguy231, on 03/21/2008, -0/+8The default theme has changed, look closer. But it's not getting a complete artwork overhaul like it was originally planned to.
- MeneerR, on 03/21/2008, -1/+9no more orange
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