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- caldroun, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3For screenshots...go to the Dapper Page:
https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperFlight4 has all information. - absurdist, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2Graphic Installer?
Who the hell cares?
Will my Broadcomm wireless LAN adapter work with this version? - FlyingLlama, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1ubuntu rocks
- knellotron, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1"Dapper will boot off of the live CD, with an icon on the desktop that will launch a pretty graphical installer."
Sounds exactly like Mepis.
I'd like a screenshot. - rjg1021, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0One of the better things that Ubuntu has going for it, as far as newb friendliness goes, is Automatix.
- puffarthur, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0Sounds much like what PCLinuxOS does. You boot up the Live CD, which has a graphical installer program ready to go on the desktop. It also comes with an installation guide text file on the desktop to help newbies get all the details and advanced partitioning right. I think including one of these installation guides on the Dapper Drake Lice CD would help a lot, I remember I used to screw up the specific details of the partitioning a lot when I first started installing Linux.
- mmcmonster, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0I'm not sure what this is saying.
Is the live CD also an install CD? Or does the install CD put you in a graphical UI during the install?
Hopefully the later. I've given numerous copies of the v5.10 Live CD out to friends. I tell them to use it as an emergency OS whenever their windows PC gets infested with viruses & spyware. Until now I could always assure them that it would not destroy their windows installation. Now I'm not so sure. - cduquette, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0The ones who say "Blegh, Ubuntu..." clearly haven't tried it. It's a great disto for a Linux user of any background. Previously I used Gentoo for the last 4 years, and was growing sick of constantly managing the system. I use Kubuntu now, and I can safely say it "just works." It's a very good Distro, and is helping bring Linux closer to mainstream.
- Daiver, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0I just moved to PCLOS and I love it. Not switching any time soon.
- Anchoret, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0> found it to be very unstable. It wouldn't surprise me if this release was the same.
I got the most spectacular crashes out of Kubuntu 5.04 that I have ever seen in nearly twenty-five years of working on computers. I offloaded it and went straight 5.04 Ubuntu. It was somewhat better, though multimedia was a nightmare. I never got a properly-functioning video play with any of the standard players, even after about three months of doinking around with the Ubuntu forum on it.
Some stuff that didn't work _at all_ for me in 5.04 worked in 5.10, and people who were happy in 5.04 were screaming like stuck pigs when they upgraded to 5.10. Like I say, it's mostly blind luck with Linux.
> I don't know how much of it is the developers fault, but it seemed like every app
> on the system had bugs and loved to crash
The point is this: It's not MY fault. Unfortunately, that's the attitude the Linux cultists project when you point out a legitimate problem with the distro in which they have their deep, compensatory emotional investment.
The reality check for Linux people is this: If a user installs the application according to the instructions you have provided him, his obligation is finished. It's supposed to work. If there's any problem, it's the fault of the developers, not the user. It's astounding how few Linux cultists can grasp this simple fact. - craterburnsu, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0"The ones who say "Blegh, Ubuntu..." clearly haven't tried it. It's a great disto for a Linux user of any background."
Ubuntu, The ancient African Word for, "I Can't Install Slackware" I've used ubuntu, and i suggest it to Newbs, but, It's not very efficient as other distros can be. Older systems HATE ubuntu, sure it has decent compatibility, but it's not very good with memory management, at least in the several times I've installed it, compared to Slackware or Gentoo. Personally i Like slackware, It's a peg below Gentoo, but also makes up for that with ease of use for that little bit of system performance you'll get out of a gentoo box. So Don't say If someone says Bleh ubuntu ect. they haven't tried it, It's not they haven't tried it, It's they don't like it. - gremlinhunter, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0Finally. What is the point of a user friendly distro with an unfriendly installer. Not that I have anything against text based installs, infact I prefer them, but imagine a linux newb seing it and freaking out.
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0"One of the better things that Ubuntu has going for it, as far as newb friendliness goes, is Automatix."
I've heard mixed things about Automatix. Some say it's crap, some say it's great.
Well? Which is it? - sark666, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0On this page https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperFlight4
I would have liked to have seen the disk space tab during the install. Does it default to format harddrive and install, or does it recognize when there is an existing windows partition and give the user the option to partition the drive and dual boot.
I believe the previous console install default was format drive. This reason alone is why I wouldn't give a disc to my windows friends. A lot of them don't know what it means to partition a drive, they'd probably just click next and format their drive. - briguyd, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0"We know that one local Linux distribution which we cannot name at this point will be launching a similar installation process on its Ubuntu-based operating system before Dapper is released. Tectonic will bring you news on this new distribution soon."
Goobuntu?
**Vomits** - aztekm30, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0I am a linux noob, i just install Ubuntu breezy, will i beable to ugrade easily to Dapper?
- claco, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0I've run XP on my laptop for a long long time to do gaming, and test win32 ports of various perl projects I work on. Over the years I've tried various distros on my lappy, and ran FreeBSD most of the time on another partition.
Last October, a friend of mine convinced me to go to Ohio LinuxFest with him. There was plenty og Ubuntu exposure there for me and I liked what I had seen. I've been running Ubuntu on my laptop since then (except for the occasional boot into XP for testing) and it's been a blast. I can't wait for the dapper to go golden. - yvovandoorn, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0"Also hints of another Ubuntu-based distro."
How can it be Ubuntu based when Ubuntu is "based" off of Debian. - sark666, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0Also, does dapper now unify the live cd and the installer cd? Or will they remain seperate.
- rmccabe916, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0Looks like Ubuntu's going on my computer when I get one. I really would like to have a graphical installer as its the first time I have installed Linux onto a system. I've tried a whole bunch of KDE distros via LiveCDs and found Ubuntu really has the best feel. However, I still like KDE's eye candy. :)
- Wagnel, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0xgl + compiz ftw
- sfcaptainrob, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0Lookin' forward to the Dapper release in April.
- Anchoret, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0> Older systems HATE ubuntu,
And newer systems are largely unsupported, so where does that leave us?
Seriously! - Burgundavia, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0The advantage of this Live cd installer is that you can try the LiveCD and then if you if you want to keep it, you don't have to boot into another cd to install. It also makes Shipit cheaper, because now they only have to ship one cd. This has allowed Shipit to ship Kubuntu cds for the first time.
And yes, Mepis and a few others had a LiveCD installer as well. - aznboi04k, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0cool
- Misos, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0I like the idea.
It doesn't render one's computer totally useless for 30 minutes while an OS is installing. - FreyrVanir, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0absurdist
Whats the model number.
yourmateian
Add this mirror with Synaptic
deb http://packages.freecontrib.org/ubuntu/plf/ breezy free non-free
Then install w32codecs and libdvdcss2.
As for Graphics install this package "xorg-driver-fglrx". It's in the restriced repo which can be easily added with synaptic too.
If you don't know how to do this post ill give a walkthru. - Hugeman, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0Last night I download the latest Dapper 64bit live cd build.
I was disappointed from the start.
My hard drives weren't mounted, no java, mp3 or other codec support installed.
Ubuntu is over rated.
If you like synaptic package manager, and apt-get, use PCLinuxOS
Everything works right out of the box no muss, no fuss.
http://www.pclinuxos.com/ - jessejoedotcom, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0I just installed it from the download a few days ago, and there's no new installer. Did they just change this like today?
- Anchoret, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0What does the GUI installer do that the text installer doesn't do? If the answer is nothing, in practical terms, what's the point?
There are so many things in Ubuntu that desperately need work -- for instance full, transparent support of non-obsolete wireless devices with non-obsolete security on install -- why waste development resources on stupidity like this?
Was this what Shuttleworth was griping about when he complained about Ubuntu programmers producing "shiny geek toys" instead of what they were being PAID to program?
That's Linux development all over: No management, no perspective, no discipline, no maturity. - absurdist, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0freyrvanir:
that's the problem. I don't know. HP technical documentation went in the toilet sometime during the Fiorina era and has never recovered. - burke, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0"How can it be Ubuntu based when Ubuntu is "based" off of Debian."
kubuntu
edubuntu
nubuntu
Is Windows Vista based off of that Xerox prototype? - GiggleStick, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0I'm not terribly sure what the big deal is about graphical installers. Ask the vast majority of windows users whether it was graphical or text when they installed it. The answer is, they didn't install it! Almost nobody installs it themselves, they just by it with windows installed. I'd like to see some statistics, but I'm sure they show that most are installed by PC Manufacturer. I like it, but it's not the Single Most Important Feature in my book.
- DiGiTaLFX, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0"Will my Broadcomm wireless LAN adapter work with this version?"
Mine does :D - BenStockwell, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0Meh, I like regular Debian. Just works.
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0WARNING. To anyone thinking of upgrading their Breezy. The Dapper alpha has broken ndiswrapper. So I can't get my wireless USB working (MA111) anymore. No wireless = no internet. No internet = can't download compiz and xgl, which was the main reason I was trying out Dapper anyway. Sucks
- Shinku, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0Every time I've installed Ubuntu (on about 3 different boxes) it always ***** up the video/monitor settings. I've tried everything. The wireless doesn't work either but I was expecting that. This thread is probably dead, but does anyone know a good distro that is similar to Ubuntu (n00b friendly) but better with old computers?
- veracon, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0I actually prefer the non-graphical installer, but I s'pose I can live with this one...
- binarypower, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0I read that wrong and totally thought it said Diaper.
- FreyrVanir, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0absurdist
Do you know the model number of the laptop it self. You can see if there is a article here.If their isn't one see if you can make one.
https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LaptopTestingTeam - inactive, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0I've tried Kubuntu many times in the past and found it to be very unstable. It wouldn't surprise me if this release was the same. I don't know how much of it is the developers fault, but it seemed like every app on the system had bugs and loved to crash, almost like every program was fresh from CVS. I'll take Mandrake, Centos, or PCLinuxOS over this any day.
- pingviini, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0" ...This has allowed Shipit to ship Kubuntu cds for the first time...."
posted by Burgundavia (0)
you say this like it has already happened. I can't find said free kubuntu cd's. can you point them out - burke, on 10/12/2007, -2/+0"Blegh, Ubuntu..."
I don't want to start any holy wars here, but you... haven't even... tried it, have you? - bieber, on 10/12/2007, -3/+1Blegh, Ubuntu...
- Jarrod, on 10/12/2007, -3/+1You hardcore into Windows, bieber?
- ragtag, on 10/12/2007, -3/+0Wow, they finally caught up to where Mepis was 2 years ago...
- augurseer, on 10/12/2007, -4/+0good artist create better artists steal
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(me) = not a fan boy jsut makeing a joke - inactive, on 10/12/2007, -4/+0*****
link to the ubuntu site
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