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- crackez, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3I tried UWIN, I didn't like it. I found that ksh was unstable and consumed a lot of cpu time and memory when executing some scripts. Also after installing UWIN, it was a pain to remove. I never had so many problems with Cygwin.
My advice, try Cygwin/X first, you'll like it a lot more.
http://www.cygwin.com/ - acidrain, on 10/12/2007, -1/+3Real geeks run BSD.
I hate headline whoring. Why the all-caps? - inactive, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1I think I prefer to run a full linux installation running under VMWARE.
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1I find Cooperative Linux more useful than Cygwin, it emulates the kernel so normal Linux apps can be ran (And an entire distro for that matter).
http://www.colinux.org/ - inactive, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0Yeah cygwin is cool, I'll check this one out, but according to what I read here, it's probably not worth the trouble.
- udha, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0I preffer to qemu windows inside linux, much more secure, and using the snapshots I can do anything to it, close it and it's back to how it was regardless of what was installed/infected/deleted. great for testing security flaws and vulnerabilities.
- caldroun, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0cygwin works for me.
- lwdallas, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0Why would I -ever- use anything but Cygwin to accomplish this? Of course, I have to find my windows computer... I left it around here somewhere...
- simonvc, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0Lazaryn said it. Colinux is the bomb. Its not emulated (hardware, or api) its real linux. Everything works except automated kernel upgrades..
- monolith, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0I thought this project had died! cool. I do like cygwin now... but I havn't tried uwin in a while.
- CaughtThinking, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0i remember hearing about colinux years ago. why isn't it as popular as cygwin?
- waiwai, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0I remember using UWIN once back when it supported named pipes and Cygwin didn't. Pretty sure that has been rectified, however. ^^
- dragonmortal, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0How do I run XFCE4 in Cygwin?
- Web_Weasel, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0Cygwin is better and better supported.
- RavenndudE, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0So is cygwin like wine ... but the oposite?
- jamesbray, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0We use Services for Windows (aka Interix) to port a large (1000 KLOC) X11/Motif/GL program to Windows. Worked a treat with very few changes and it's completely free (both dev and distributing) to boot.
http://www.microsoft.com/sfu.
Theres a great support forum at the Interix site too.
James - crunk, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0Real unix on windows people like UnxUtils http://unxutils.sourceforge.net/ or mingw for not having that pesky cygwin dll around...
- bloodylip, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0Cygwin is not like wine. It does not run pre-compiled linux binaries. They must be recompiled for the cygwin platform.
- jamesbray, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0To clarify, "free" in the previous message refers to "Free as in beer", not "Free as in freedom"
James - eltoozero, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0Cygwin -digg
- Rhomboid, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0...but it is like wine in that it is a library that implements a mapping/emulation of one API to another, in this case posix to win32.
- yvovandoorn, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0daltonrooney... i hope your being sarcastic.
- mancat, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0SFU/SUA/Interix is about ten times better than UWIN. Most UWIN users have moved on to Interix. UWIN was nice back before Interix was free, but now there is really no reason to use it.
http://microsoft.com/sfu - mcletter, on 10/12/2007, -1/+0This is old, and I've tried it and didn't like it..
no digg - udha, on 10/12/2007, -1/+0being a linux user, I like to get flammed and bashed by the freeBSD crowd ;) and see projects like this spreading the word and helping give linux wider use and appeal.
- perseon, on 10/12/2007, -1/+0Real geeks use Phlak ;)
- battybattybatt, on 10/12/2007, -1/+0"...Real geeks run BSD...."
A real geek would know the diff between FreeBSD and OpenBSD. - bastien, on 10/12/2007, -1/+0real geek (ab)use real geeks
- aoeuhtns, on 10/12/2007, -1/+0real geeks use pen and paper
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -3/+2Real geeks run Linux
- DoctorShim, on 10/12/2007, -1/+0Real geeks use CP/M.
- freddo, on 10/12/2007, -1/+0For those telling that they use vmware or other vm tool... This is not about running a virtual environment, this is about having common Un*x tools working in a win32 environment...
You tried UWin (http://www.research.att.com/sw/tools/uwin/)? beek!
You tried Windows Services for UNIX http://microsoft.com/sfu)? beek!
What to do then? Another layer over VM is an Emulation environment: Cygwin!
If you really need a large variety of Un*x tools for win32, try Cygwin (http://cygwin.com/). Of course, comparing to Cygwin, those two Un*x environment for windows are:
- faster (IO/API/...)
- better integrated with win32 architecture (OLE/ODBC/...)
- they make a lot of things easier than Cygwin with windows
anyway, they're just a little + to Cygwin. One could go over a dozen of reasons why Cygwin is better, but the most important is that Cygwin is widely supported from the Un*x community, and most of the GNU tools work with it (meaning you don't end up with a 1993 version of "ls" that doesn't support half the options you're used to). When something compile with Cygwin, you can be confident it will compile with HPUX or Solaris, and don't think about the latest version of BSD (and OSX) or Linux here...
Sure someone can go over a dozen of reason why Cygwin isn't better compared to those Un*x environments for windows, but there's already a lot of pages on google explaining why... and why NOT...
Just try Cygwin for yourself... http://www.cygwin.com/ - kamizu, on 10/12/2007, -1/+0real geeks use all caps for mediocre stories
- pillfred, on 10/12/2007, -1/+0Real geeks are doing better things with there time!
- Urusai, on 10/12/2007, -1/+0Real geeks post to news blogs about what real geeks do.
- hiro, on 10/12/2007, -1/+0Real geeks write their own OS every time they switch their computer on
- KAMI_no_kodomo, on 10/12/2007, -2/+0Unix for Windows?
Screw windows and use the Unix whitout windows. - ripcrd, on 10/12/2007, -2/+0SFU? Is that like Shut the F*** Up? Sorry, that was the first thing that popped in my mind.
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