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Torvalds On Where Linux Is Headed In 2008

informationweek.com — The creator of Linux is excited about solid-state drives, expects progress in graphics and wireless networking, and says the operating system is strong in virtualization despite his personal lack of interest in the area.

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  • Philluminati, on 11/26/2007, -0/+73Virtualisation isn't about running Windows apps in a VM.

    It's about one machine run multiple operating systems, for example, large data centers having blade servers with 1 linux install hosting 10 linux guest operating systems. Each one acting as a separate machine, with it's own Apache install (or ftp or whatever), it's own IP Address and it's own administrative ssh login (why wouldn't it? it's a different os instance). It's about have a DHCP server, a NFS File server, your companies email server and your proxy server on different machines to get all the benefits of isolation, whilst running it on one physical machine, for the benefit of cost and physical space. With virtualisation you save physical space, hardware costs, energy costs (due to fewer processors) and cooling costs (less heat from fewer machines). It's not about running windows programs inside qemu or vmware.
  • lagrange, on 11/26/2007, -3/+69Here is a mirror in case it goes down:

    Do you like Linux?

    Yes

    Is linux better than windows?

    Yes.

    Do you like Windows?

    No.

    Whats going to happen with Linux in 2008?

    Lots of stuff.
  • rye128, on 11/26/2007, -1/+37This guy had a chance to ask Linus questions and wasted them by asking him about windows, what a dick.
  • cogent, on 11/26/2007, -3/+31This sounds like another generic interview posted by a big website. The first 2 questions are trying to compare Linux to Windows right off the bat. The answer to those is obvious: Linus doesn't know/care!

    I was hoping for something interesting, but it's the same crap all over again.
  • ReturnToFreedom, on 11/26/2007, -1/+19I'm excited about Solid State HDs as well. I remember when I had mac os 8.0 about a decade ago, I was so happy that the entire operating system fit onto my RAMdisk. Man, now that was a responsive operating system. Everyone should boot from a ram drive to see how responsive and fast an operating system can really be.
  • cenarta, on 11/26/2007, -0/+122 thumbs up for Linus. It was almost like InformationWeek was looking to get him to rant about MS. Instead he simply stated the truth that MS products are simply uninteresting to him and proceeded to give great responses on where he thinks Linux is headed. IMO well done and refreshing. (He's not a fanboy, he's the godfather!)
  • John213, on 11/26/2007, -0/+12Immensely disappointing.
    I think if you are going to interview someone, at least focus on what that person does and not some personal agenda you've tried to push the interview into
  • andycr512, on 11/26/2007, -0/+10Every darn time someone interviews Linus, they try to trick him into saying he hates Windows and thinks Microsoft employees should die in a fiery crash, and every single time it fails because that's simply not how he feels.
  • baalzebub, on 11/26/2007, -15/+25i would prefer to software ported to run natively on Linux than run in a virtual environment...
  • oomfoofoo, on 11/26/2007, -2/+10Schestowitz spreading FUD? Hush yo' mouth!
  • baalzebub, on 11/26/2007, -0/+8ah, i see, you make a good point Philluminati...
  • stalefries, on 11/26/2007, -0/+5That's not a mirror, that's a complete summary of every interview with Linus; past, present, and future.
  • NJHewitt, on 11/26/2007, -0/+5Yes, there are server uses like that, but there are also very useful home desktop uses like Baalzebub states - for example, Parallels was a real selling point for Macs. Virtualization is great for both uses.
  • SPThom, on 11/26/2007, -1/+6Yeah, but... baalzebub would almost make it sound like virtualization is a waste of time. He seems aware of the desktop capabilities... He probably *didn't* know of the capabilities Philluminati listed.
  • justice7, on 11/26/2007, -0/+5VMWare is not the only virtualization software... nor does it have anything to do with understanding unix.
  • teegeedee, on 11/26/2007, -5/+9...and minutes later Linus' name is misused in order to spread FUD:
    http://boycottnovell.com/2007/11/26/linus-torvalds ...

    Not for the first time by that website:
    http://boycottnovell.com/2007/08/16/linus-on-cross ...
  • GMorgan, on 11/26/2007, -0/+4His opinion on a Linux kernel where increasingly more stuff is finding itself in user space.
  • teegeedee, on 11/26/2007, -2/+6Actually, yes. He also insinuates that the GNOME foundation is acting as a Microsoft-proxy. ATM he's being done in for that by GNOME's Jeff Waugh because Schestowitz made the mistake to also question Jeff's (and his wife's) personal integrity. And Schestowitz, no surprise, is caving in and trying to weasel his way out of it. But Jeff won't let him.
  • justice7, on 11/26/2007, -2/+5you forgot the part where linus flips out on the direction of GPL and various linux projects..... i bet his eye twitches a lot.
  • MeneerR, on 11/27/2007, -0/+3Well, I actually question some of the newer parts of GNOME as well, like MONO.
    They are truly constructing something that legitimizes the case for intellectual property infringement.

    When some judge actually decides MONO is too much of a clone for a technilogical tool (this does not concern double-click style patents but true technology patents), the FUD due to that might back fire to all linux technology including those that are original.

    If I were Microsoft i would be very happy with MONO. The trojan horse of the linux eco-system. Those actively promoting it on microsoft-sponsored-payroll (such as Novell), should have their loyalty questioned.

    I haven't followed any of the discussion though. Why would any one even attack Jeff Waugh is beyond me.. he is great contributor and I would rather have him running the GNOME foundation than the current microsoft undercovers.
  • stalefries, on 11/26/2007, -2/+5schestowitz, some of us are sick and tired of you posting on every single article in the Linux/Unix section. It doesn't help much that you frequently link to your own sensationalist blog as a source for your own arguments.
  • oobuntu, on 11/26/2007, -1/+3i agree with you there. but what questions should he have asked?
  • Remmy, on 11/26/2007, -0/+2http://www.linux.com/feature/121930

    The whole GNOME/Microsoft thing is really confusing to me at the moment. Couple that with Torvald's distaste of GNOME ( http://www.desktoplinux.com/news/NS8745257437.html ), and it paints a rather bad picture of them. I would just like a more concise source for what is really going on.
  • Remmy, on 11/26/2007, -0/+1Just to answer my own question there, http://www.gnome.org/press/releases/ecma-tc45-stat ...
    That clears it up a bit for me.
  • MeneerR, on 11/27/2007, -0/+1Wether he considers to integrate any of the 'safe' virtual machines (JVM/MONO/etc.) into the kernel to gain some extra performance.
    I mean, they are small pieces of code, they garantuee safety against memory-corruption/etc., so why not run them in real-mode?
  • moschops, on 11/26/2007, -2/+2That was complete waste of time reading - it told me almost nothing about where Linux is headed in 2008 other than "all kinds of interesting stuff" and that Linux isn't interested in virtualization, Windows and all kinds of stuff.
  • chaos7, on 11/26/2007, -2/+2i want a SSD
  • thewfirestarter, on 11/26/2007, -1/+1I always enjoy reading Theo quotes. It constantly reminds me why nobody uses BSD.
  • andafrouse, on 11/26/2007, -1/+1Its security benefits are however very controversial.
    see http://kerneltrap.org/OpenBSD/Virtualization_Secur ...
  • schoate09, on 11/26/2007, -7/+6It's the year it's headed for "teh desktop".
  • MeatBiProduct, on 11/26/2007, -9/+2VMWare called - it says it wants its understanding of unix back.
  • schestowitz, on 11/26/2007, -11/+1What on earth are you talking about? Have you followed the correspondence from _both_ sides? Seems like a cheap shot attack on me, behind my back.
  • acidosen, on 11/26/2007, -10/+0Can we compare "...no single entity ends up being in control of where it all goes." to watching YT and not knowing video's marks/categories/opinions? You just browse the catalog and if something is good you may feel lucky. I think many people don't use Linux cause it's not adjusted to technology (tried to connect your BT from China in Linux environment?). Because in fact no one really cares...

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