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- buddyw, on 05/08/2008, -5/+114I always feel like I am getting a fair review from ars.
- ptFoe, on 05/08/2008, -7/+55Quote " I have yet to find any Linux-based BitTorrent client that is as good as uTorrent, a proprietary client for Windows that provides unbeatable download performance and reliability. "
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I am a gnome user but I find Ktorrent stable and more powerful than Utorrent. - weizbox, on 05/08/2008, -4/+43Yea... he certainly didn't try to hard, or maybe he's just really picky. I've been loving Deluge, it's a great Linux alternative to uTorrent.
- Tyr7BE, on 05/08/2008, -2/+33Linsux. Jesus dude that's amazing. You make that up? Holy crap you should be writing for Leno or something.
- jakethecake, on 05/08/2008, -1/+29It's always the flash blob that breaks things. It responsible for 35% of all Firefox crashes. http://wiki.mozilla.org/QA:Talkback:Metrics
PulseAudio does not work with flash since Adobe won't fix their broken implementation.
I expect the PA/gstreamer issues to be resolved via apt updates. - adderx99, on 05/08/2008, -5/+28i think the greatest flaw of 8.04 as a long-term release is that nautilus broke samba. sure, it has a high priority rating, but come on, what business is going to adopt an os that cant share network resources with windows boxes? that said, 8.04 is awesome for laptops/personal use, and is what im running at the moment.
- fatas, on 05/08/2008, -2/+20samba works fine for me
- matriculated, on 05/08/2008, -0/+16Agreed. I had to trawl the internet to find a fix which involved sudo editing the smb.conf and restarting my PC (restarting samba would not work for some reason). This is really not something I'd expect a regular user to do and a huge oversight from the Ubuntu team, imho. But this is still a really great release for me. I'm amazed by how polished it is compared to the last release (which I though was great). My last Windows PC is now a Ubuntu machine.
Fix is here if your still having problems:
http://blog.myfenris.net/?p=429
The one nagging thing that I see is actually installing. I still find it confusing when I want to install to a real partition. How are people supposed to know that you need a main partition and a 2nd partition for your swap. And I still don't know how big to make the swap partition and there are no suggestions on it during the installation process. Don't get me wrong - it's insanely easy if you let it wipe an entire drive or if you let it install to the largest free space but when you want it to use, say, half of your boot drive it get confusing. - Benno, on 05/08/2008, -0/+16I take it you didn't read the article.
- Kamujin, on 05/08/2008, -1/+17I think I liked 7.10 better honestly. Not enough to switch back, but the little issues in 8.04 do get somewhat frustrating.
- absurdist, on 05/08/2008, -1/+16Don't feed the troll, guys. This idiot gets on for two things, to bitch about Obama, and make his incredibly witty Linsux comment. Over and over and over. Just bury and move on.
- ambiguus, on 05/08/2008, -1/+15My initial excitement for this release was soon smothered by the numerous bugs and freezes. A little disappointed, but hopefully things will get be tightened up in the next few months.
- arjie, on 05/08/2008, -0/+14Wait, Gentoo, and you were complaining that you'll have to 'wait' for binary distros? By the time you finish compiling, the next release will be out. Just kidding, I love Gentoo, most awesome documentation ever.
- tushyd, on 05/08/2008, -0/+14That happened to me, all I did was go to alsamixer and uncheck the optical out. I have an audigy 1
- dcherryholmes, on 05/08/2008, -1/+14Yep, CompizFusion is soooooo 90's.
- sark666, on 05/08/2008, -0/+13Deluge is getting much better, and I tried giving up utorrent (via wine) and use deluge in it's place.
You can't indicate specific files in a torrent unless you enable precaching. So I want 50 megs of a 12 gig torrent and I got to cover 12 gigs. Don't like that.
You can only specify # of active torrents and not # of active downloads. I found someitmes my download is queued cause there are 4 seeds already active, instead of giving downloads priority in the queue.
And this really bugs me, I normally share my torrents 1:1, but when I have deleted a torrent early (or simply moved it), deluge starts redownloading the torrent again, whereas utorrent simply says file not found and you can choose to restart or point it to where the file now exists.
Deluge is good, but needs to fix a few more things before i'll drop utorrent. - omgitsmit, on 05/08/2008, -0/+12rTorrent + SSH + Screen = FTW
- brstilson, on 05/08/2008, -7/+17I installed Hardy Heron via Wubi and it lasted three days. This was the buggiest, most unstable version of Ubuntu I've ever worked with.
- pitbull67, on 05/08/2008, -1/+11@ momsshizzle
Dude. Yer an idiot. That's all the brain power I am gonna waste on you. - arjie, on 05/08/2008, -0/+10I find rtorrent very useful. That way I can just SSH into the other computer and tell it what to do. Lets me pretend I'm a geek :)
- nippletaco, on 05/08/2008, -0/+10transmission - right click on torrent - details - files....uncheck anything you don't want to download
do people even test the programs there bashing? - RetepNamenots, on 05/08/2008, -1/+10Urm, did you actually read the article?
- Benno, on 05/08/2008, -1/+10If you have a working Gutsy setup, there really isn't a compelling reason to upgrade to Hardy (yet).
- Tyr7BE, on 05/08/2008, -1/+10http://www.howtogeek.com/howto/ubuntu/enable-smoot ...
I've always found fonts on linux to be nice. Once you enable smooth fonts I like them better than OS X or windows. - DracoFlameus, on 05/08/2008, -0/+9Well, initally it depends on how well it recognizes ur hardware.
My laptop always has issues with audio when I install a new version... so I have to use the command line to fix it. You don't have to understand what u r typing though.... I don't know it either, I just look it up at a forum.
Regarding the rest... it depends how much u want to do. From my experience, if you just want to do basic tasks like surfing/writing there shouldn't be any big issues. But the more you do, the more likely it is, that you will encounter problems where you have to use command line. - inactive, on 05/08/2008, -1/+10Yes, he is. Every glitch in this release was highlighted by Ars as well as the improvements. There are some bugs that Ubuntu shouldn't have to be shipped with.
And I want to make an emphasis on this paragraph since I'm starting to see the Ubuntu stability stumbling in the past few releases, Ryan Paul must be noticing this too:
"The previous release was the "gutsy" one with experimental new technologies and this was supposed to be the "hardy" one with an emphasis on stability. I'm quite happy to suffer with the bugs for six months, but I can't imagine anybody using it on the desktop for three years in its current state. This release is disappointing because it falls short of what was promised, but it still delivers a lot of value for experienced users who will be able to work around the weaknesses.
Ubuntu has achieved Linux desktop dominance by offering a significantly better experience and more usability than competing distributions, but with the others are starting to catch up in those areas, this is a bad time for Ubuntu to be stumbling. Fedora 9 and openSUSE 11 are both right around the corner and they might finally give Ubuntu a real challenge on the desktop.
Ubuntu 8.10, which is codenamed Intrepid Ibex and is tentatively scheduled for release in October, will include improvements to mobile computing and desktop scalability. A strong 8.10 release with fewer problems out of the box would help put Ubuntu back on track." - inactive, on 05/08/2008, -7/+15This one finally got me off XP on my laptop. I'm 100% linux now.
Of course, i have an Xbox360 for gaming. - rizla420, on 05/08/2008, -2/+10Azerus was becoming too much of a hog for me.
- init100, on 05/08/2008, -0/+8He never does. He posts "Linsux" comments in every article forum remotely connected to Linux.
- nblsavage, on 05/08/2008, -4/+12um yes you can.
- jefuchs, on 05/08/2008, -2/+10HH gives me nothing but problems... on a brand new PC. I'm thinking of downgrading to Dapper, the last distro that worked really well for me.
- NTolerance, on 05/08/2008, -1/+9It also can't connect to Windows network shares that require password authentication:
https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gvfs/+bu ...
All the data that I access with my Ubuntu machine is stored on Windows shares so I can't use Hardy. - CoolGoose, on 05/08/2008, -0/+8It isn't perfect especially considering that it's mainly flash 7 with some support for 8 and 9. I expect the development to ramp up considering the release of the flash specs from adobe.
- RetepNamenots, on 05/08/2008, -0/+7I've had fewer problems with Linux than I have had with Vista. So just because I've had fewer problems with Linux (wait, have you even tried it?), does that automatically mean that Linux 'beats the hell out of' Vista?
Furthermore, when I pay £60 for an operating system, I expect it to work with my current hardware, which in my case it doesn't. And when I download a free operating system, I'm prepared to maybe install a video driver manually, or change the keyboard layout myself. - bigsteve, on 05/08/2008, -0/+7I agree that this might not have been the best choice for those that aren't completely Linux savvy but are Firefox power users. Luckily, you can simply step into Synaptic, uncheck Firefox 3, and check Firefox 2, and be back to what you're used to in minutes.
- igknighted, on 05/08/2008, -2/+9Normally I hate Ubuntu reviews... but Ars has done a great job with this one. Clearly Ubuntu has chosen to make the desktop as simple as possible. Look at the comments on every "improvement" in 8.04... the program is nice, but configuration options are non-existent. Is this really what we want linux to be? Accept the distro's defaults or find another one? What happened to tweaking your own system...
- init100, on 05/08/2008, -1/+8"How is this considered an LTS release if it includes a BETA version of one of its most important bundled apps???"
Maybe because they wanted to avoid having to support Firefox 2.x for another three years? - int19h, on 05/08/2008, -0/+7they're
- inactive, on 05/08/2008, -6/+13i am flat out LOVING pulse audio, it is the next generation
- BigManOnCampus, on 05/08/2008, -1/+8Deluge is good, but It doesn't have all the little nice things that utorrent does. For instance, there is a complete lack of current torrent information in deluge as compared to utorrent. It's not like that information is useful, it probably isn't. It's just nice.
- Technoloki, on 05/08/2008, -1/+8THANK YOU! "Blurry or jagged" - I could never describe what the fonts looked like. NOW I can.
- init100, on 05/08/2008, -0/+895% of Windows users do not have Creative Audigy cards, and neither do they run VMware.
- MikeonTV, on 05/08/2008, -2/+9It's basically the last distro I will ever need! Although I did say that when the Fawn landed!
- muszek, on 05/09/2008, -0/+6I've been using Ubuntu since Hoary (5.04) and having read most of TFA, I can find not even a slightest piece of FUD in it. The criticism is valid. I for one had many problems with PulseAudio (been on Hardy since late February) and still can't say everything's shiny.
Pointing out a real MS FUD is one thing, but using this argument when confronted with valid criticism just makes you (and sadly the rest of communit) look like an angry teenage fanboy. - cyberwiz01, on 05/08/2008, -0/+6Yeah, what ever happened to the new theme that was planned for Heron?
- mijelh, on 05/08/2008, -0/+6I understand your point, but not the fact that you choose Vista as a "just works" alternative, given the huge failure it was and still is (both technically and comercially).
It would understand XP or OSX. - frostw, on 05/09/2008, -0/+6You've gotta be kidding! That is a MAJOR flaw.
- bigsteve, on 05/08/2008, -0/+6Usually blinking keyboard modifier lights means a kernel panic. Without seeing your system and logs, it's hard to say what is causing the panic, but I can almost guarantee it's not memory access... at it's very heart, one of the Linux kernel's many strong points is securing memory so that if an app tries to step out of it's sandbox, the app will simply go down without taking the kernel with it...
- insanebrain, on 05/08/2008, -2/+8Totally ***** *****. I've been linux for a half year and I only need the consolebox for compiling the creative driver and vmware.
- priegog, on 05/08/2008, -1/+7I have to disagree, but I've heard many people say the same thing. Maybe it's a hardware-specific problem?
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