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- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -2/+23Ugh, two pages to go through to go there, here's the direct link:
http://origin.channel4.com/news/2006/08/08_net_m4.wmv - DerekkThomas, on 10/12/2007, -3/+24My hero ;-)
- chris86wm, on 10/12/2007, -0/+15"It's not the easiest thing to install - it took me about four hours, which I'm told is far above the average, but still too long."
Was this guy drunk during the install.....come on, 4 hours!?!?
The ubuntu install is one of the easiest OS installs out there (IMO easier and quicker than windows), and usually takes less than 30 minutes. - jessejoedotcom, on 10/12/2007, -0/+14Google Video of it - http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-1341210584930823491
- ramsinks.com, on 10/12/2007, -1/+11i440, I think you mean OSX. Not "download this codec.exe" and pray.
;) - ubuntudemon, on 10/12/2007, -1/+11I've met him in person at the Ubuntu Developers Summit in Paris. He's a nice and inspiring person.
I've blogged about this story here :
http://ubuntudemon.wordpress.com/2006/08/09/tv-interview-with-mark-ubuntu-shuttleworth/ - nickiank, on 10/12/2007, -1/+10@i440:
Ubuntu's fault? Hardly. This is more symptomatic of web developers resorting to using proprietary technologies to deliver content. If more web developers and, more importantly, their clients were to realize that using this stuff reduces their audience, it would be a non-issue. - alphacorvus, on 10/12/2007, -2/+11Author of article:
"It's not the easiest thing to install - it took me about four hours, which I'm told is far above the average, but still too long. "
lol what - eMpi, on 10/12/2007, -0/+9Direct link: http://www.channel4.com/more4/news/news-opinion-feature.jsp?id=350
Interesting look actually. I've never seen him on tv before, so.. :) - Sterch, on 10/12/2007, -1/+9Mark is going to change the world of computers as we know it. Power to the man! I'm glad to see a good interview with him. Digg+
- kettlechips, on 10/12/2007, -1/+9Point mom to Automatix and she's set!
- jamsea, on 10/12/2007, -0/+8There's so many ubuntu stories because people like you digg them all the time.....
And ubuntu is technology and digg has a major technology audience. - keef06, on 10/12/2007, -0/+7Ubunutu's actually getting quite popular (compared to windows) as can be seen through google trends:
http://www.google.com/trends?q=windows+xp%2C+windows+vista%2C+ubuntu&ctab=0&geo=all&date=all - jessejoedotcom, on 10/12/2007, -0/+7I'm on Ubuntu and I can see it just fine with mplayerplug-in, or by opening Totem - Movie - Open Location - mms://a589.v154785.c15478.g.vm.akamaistream.net/7/589/15478/v0004/origin.channel4.com/news/2006/08/08_net_m4.wmv
- Protonz, on 10/12/2007, -0/+7The basic install is the same as windows, although sometimes there are driver issues. I know I invested a good chunk of time making those glxgears fly.
- ubuntudemon, on 10/12/2007, -0/+6If you are using Ubuntu then follow this guide :
http://ubuntudemon.wordpress.com/2006/08/07/howto-common-customizations-such-as-multimedia-in-ubuntu-dapper-2/
Make sure to restart firefox. - nickiank, on 10/12/2007, -3/+9"The only problem here is that the end user will not sympathize."
The end user will say, "Man, what a bunch of dicks for using this stupid crap that doesn't work for everyone. They can take their product/service/whatever and shove it up their ass."So yes, the end user will not sympathize. It's the content provider's loss. What's your point? - jessejoedotcom, on 10/12/2007, -0/+6Google Video of it - http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-1341210584930823491
- libervisco, on 10/12/2007, -4/+10Indeed. While it's nice to see one of our guys in the media, the fact that the video can't be seen by GNU/Linux users sucks. I guess we're not the intented audience anyway.
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -1/+6The video doesn't seem to work with the mplayer of xine engine, kind of ironic. It seems to be pretty typical of a lot of television websites lately though, they either just don't work or detect that you're using non-windows and don't even allow you to see the video.
(i have all the non-free repos enabled and added btw) - dnthomps, on 10/12/2007, -1/+5A great person indead: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mark_Shuttleworth
Shuttleworth gained worldwide fame on 25 April 2002 as a civilian cosmonaut aboard the Russian Soyuz TM-34
Shuttleworth founded Thawte in 1995, which specialised in digital certificates and Internet security and then sold it to VeriSign in December 1999, earning R3,5-billion (about $575 million US dollars at the time).
In September 2000, Shuttleworth formed HBD Venture Capital, a business incubator and venture capital provider.
In 2001 he formed the Shuttleworth Foundation, a non-profit organisation dedicated to social innovation which also funds educational and open source projects in South Africa, such as The Freedom Toaster.
Shuttleworth participated as a Debian developer in the 1990s, and in 2004 he returned to the Linux world by funding the development of Ubuntu, a user-friendly distribution of Linux, through his company Canonical Ltd. In 2005 he founded the Ubuntu Foundation and made an initial investment of 10 million dollars. In the Ubuntu project, Shuttleworth is often referred to with the tongue-in-cheek title Self-Appointed Benevolent Dictator for Life. In September 2005, he purchased a 65% stake of ImpiLinux. [2] - trogdoor, on 10/12/2007, -1/+5No.
- somerandomnerd, on 10/12/2007, -0/+4"But the bottom line is that if Ubuntu intends to be widely adopted, the need to deal with the impatient end users that only care about what's easier, and the fact of the matter is that this kind of end-user comprises the majority."
What makes you think that Ubuntu intends to be widely adopted?
How are "impatient end users who only care about what's easier" going to be better off using Linux in the first place? *Why* are they going to be using Linux in the first place?
If you don't want to customise your system, read a manual, or basically put any effort into figuring out how your computer works, then you're unlikely to be repartitioning your harddrive and installing a new OS, are you? - atralyx, on 10/12/2007, -2/+6I have to agree there , no where did they mention linux
ubuntu is a distro , give credit where credit is due
atleast give credit to the creator of Linux , without it ubuntu would not exist - jessejoedotcom, on 10/12/2007, -1/+5Google Video - http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-1341210584930823491
- nickiank, on 10/12/2007, -2/+6"Wrong. As soon as the (typical) end user sees that it can be done more easily on another operating system, he/she will choose it. The typical end user does not know or care whether there are reasons to why it doesn't work. They just want to work, and they want to work easily."
If "typical" means "willfully ignorant", well then, yeah, sure. Given that those were not the parameters of the discussion, you are wrong. Given that tech savviness of the average joe is on the up and up, the exposure level to these ideas increases. Folks have complained and gotten their banks to stop using ActiveX controls and the like on their sites at threat of going elsewhere. I've got news for you, my fine foolish fiend: that was not an exception to the rule, but the beginning of the "typical"user opting not to put up with bad delivery of content/services. - kliewer, on 10/12/2007, -1/+4Yeah when I read that I was like wtf? It took me like 15 minutes.
- savantelite, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3"It's not the easiest thing to install - it took me about four hours, which I'm told is far above the average, but still too long."
I have installed it on pentium 2 (233 megahertz) computer in less than 3 hours. Four hours is rediculous. - migla, on 10/12/2007, -1/+4Did they say the word "linux" anywhere in there? Gotta have another look.
- sumadartson, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3I'd love to install it on my mom's pc.
She thinks the windows CLI and lack of package management are ***** anyway. At least bash has decent autocompletion. And she loves synaptic. - stoffe, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3Their help specifically states that they have chosen this solution because of DRM, and looking at the code they are jumping through some hoops to try to shut non-proprietary viewers out... at the same time as they are showing a clip about free software and are using the prototype library to help deliver it...
There could be some kind of moral here, but most likely it's just a case of uninformed people doing what "everybody else" does. What reasonable purpose could it serve in their favour to use DRM and shut a lot of interested people out?
I'm watching the clip in a downloaded version instead as I type this, again only showing that DRM doesn't serve any other purpose other than pissing legitimate viewers off. Now it's probably gonna end up on the filesharing networks (not by my hand though) instead, while they could just have let everyone see it through their site. Stupid.
PS: Just discovered something cool yesterday, check out FlowPlayer. With this tool, ffmpeg and a tiny Ruby script, you too can publish your videos Goole/YouTube style, and in Flash 7 which is available for most people. Stupid companies take note. DS - stoffe, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3To be fair, Ubuntu and Debian always gives credit where it's due - to GNU/Linux, not only the kernel. The kernel is of course really important, but we could have gone with others, like the BSD one if it hadn't arrived. Without the GNU tools, nothing, not even the kernel, would have happened, and still wouldn't (at least in practice).
- jbus, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3My mother uses ubuntu and has been doing so just fine since dapper was released. We wiped XP off the drive and installed dapper. What's the problem?
There is actually less that can go wrong with her using ubuntu than if she was using XP. Now she feels more secure and I have yet to hear her complain about anything. - corkster, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3The man makes me proud to be a South African :D
- jbus, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2It took the writer of the article 4 hours to install ubuntu??? WTF?
A live CD install takes what? 15 or 20 minutes? add 5 minutes to update the system with what is likely the worlds easiest update/installer, and 5 minutes to run easyubuntu and maybe 5-10 minutes to install XGL/Compiz. That's 30-45 minutes max for fully functional multimedia desktop with 3d acceleration/composting that makes both Mac OS X and Vista look outdated.
What the hell was this guy doing for 4 hours? - rrg1987, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2I'm running a 2.4Ghz P4 with 512MB RAM and a 40GB HD. When I installed Ubuntu (the proper noun not the African word, people!) it took about 5 minutes to load the live CD, 5 minutes to setup the install, and less than 10 minutes to actually install Ubuntu.
This guy has to be smoking something. No OS should take "about 4 hours" to install!
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I'm glad Shuttleworth is an attractive young man. It'll help when he's hosting keynotes at WWDC in 2010 (random date).
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:-) - n1cza, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2I'm so glad someone from this country is getting us positive media attention. Great work Mark!
- DelMonte, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2He's like the Steve Jobs for linux!
- stoffe, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2Thanks for the link. Works perfectly! :)
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -2/+4Um. Canoical has ten times less money than digg. Also, why would they, even if they had the money?
- nacs, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1Worked fine in Mplayer and Xine for me. Use Automatix to install any codecs needed.
- WhiteSox, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1thanks that works, even with AIGLX when flash wont work!
- jbus, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1I hope you aren't serious. Would you say that Mac OS X is just BSD Unix and not its own thing?
Ubuntu is GNU/Linux, but ubuntu is based on debian which is one of MANY Linux distributions. In spite of the commonality, the differences between plain debian and ubuntu are numerous and the differences between ubuntu and non-debian Linux distributions are even more numerous. As Ubuntu and other Linux distributions continue evolve more, these differences are likely to grow even larger. - elephantdog, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1@iamcitizen With all the Digg stories about Kevin not being rich, it's safe to say Canonical is worth more, or Kevin was ripped-off by venture capitalists. Maybe the VCs have all the money and Kevin gets a job and an NDA.
Anyway it would be a bad investment for Canonical as Digg has no assets except an unforgiving audience that will quickly abandon ship for another site that is slightly better (just like they dumped Slashdot). - scheming, on 10/12/2007, -1/+2this guy is definitely cool. i can't wait for kde4 to come out with it's eyecandy goodness.
- LeeVal, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1Its just linux, they make it look like its his own thing
- phenolholic, on 10/12/2007, -1/+2irony. interview with the gentleman who made another operating system on a format non-native to that operating system.
- Saffa, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1Agreed :)
- grimsonPack, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1http://video.google.com/videosearch?q=mark+shuttleworth
- jefferson, on 10/12/2007, -2/+2The true test for anything OS related is this
"would you be willing to install it as is on your mom's computer" if you answered no then its not ready yet. I am running the 64 bit vesrion of Dapper Drake its great fast comes with the usual apps open office etc etc but there is still no multimedia support, I dont care whose fault that is or whose responsible, when i say no multimedia i mean out of the box or easily installed, fedora core has the same problem. The people who will win the linux desktop battle will be the ones who move it offshore to some country where there is no copywrite protection and just preload their system with all the plugins and codecs.
how you are expected to function without xvid, divx, mp3, wmd32 bit, flash, java etc is beyond me
i like linux i do but if i wouldnt recommend it to my mom its just not going to gain wide acceptance -
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