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- LiXy, on 06/17/2008, -1/+128Send a letter to those responsible for Bill C-61 in Ottawa in less than a minute by completing this letter wizard provided by the Canadian Coalition for Electronic Rights - http://www.ccer.ca/send-a-letter-to-harper-prentic ...
- vanbacon, on 06/18/2008, -7/+97***** the RIAA
***** the MPAA
And ***** bush - HyperHacker, on 06/17/2008, -3/+75If this passes I'm moving to Sweden.
- OldeEnglish23, on 06/18/2008, -2/+50The song goes "I am Canadian" not "I am Americas Bitch"
- sfacets, on 06/18/2008, -11/+56Come on Canada! You're supposed to be America's wise little brother... what are you thinking?
- Willravel, on 06/18/2008, -2/+45Canadians, if you figure out how to stop the out of control elements of your government be sure to let us know how you did it. Ours is a lot worse.
- nodehopper, on 06/18/2008, -1/+42I renewed my membership today.
Thank you for joining the Electronic Frontier Foundation (EFF)! Your membership contribution of $65.00 means a world of difference to EFF and enables EFF attorneys, technologists, and activists to continue to protect free speech, fair use, innovation and privacy in the online world.
http://www.eff.org/
You should too!!! - Zorkon, on 06/18/2008, -0/+32Well unfortunately our current minority government is too concerned about not pissing off Washington. They've ignored numerous requests by the Canadian people to hold open dialogs on the content of this bill, and instead basically wrote down what the US ambassador to Canada told them to write.
*Hopefully* the Liberals and other political parties will band together against this bill in Parliament. Although probably not. sigh. - poftwaresatent, on 06/18/2008, -1/+29Userfriendly has a line on this since yesterday
http://ars.userfriendly.org/cartoons/?id=20080616 - sdipaola, on 06/18/2008, -1/+24I am from Canada, let's not blame the US for this or call it like the US system - it is much worse and it is homegrown - let's blame ourselves and fix it ourselves.
- AsadM, on 06/18/2008, -0/+22ya well we should still put an extra bullet in it's head...just to be sure...
- SilverBlade2k, on 06/18/2008, -3/+24***** Harper and his 'Worship Bush' mentality. I hate him.
- Ford_Prefect2nd, on 06/18/2008, -0/+20No we're the little brother that has sense enough not to kick all our neighbors in the teeth so we don't have to hide.
- kenvsryu, on 06/18/2008, -3/+22RIA eh?
MPA eh? - inactive, on 06/18/2008, -0/+16It's fairly straight forward - when you don't like a politician, you don't vote for him again.
- sirbeta, on 06/18/2008, -1/+17Wow, if that makes its way into the legal system, Canada will be far worse off than the US is right now. I'm rooting for you guys, don't let them drag you down like they did us.
- earthforce1, on 06/18/2008, -0/+16Already wrote the industry minister - here is my response to his form letter:
On Thu, 2008-06-12 at 13:09 -0400, Ministers Prentice and Verner wrote:
The Government of Canada has introduced Bill C-61, An Act to Amend the Copyright Act. The proposed legislation is a made-in-Canada approach that balances the needs of Canadian consumers and copyright owners, promoting culture, innovation and competition in the digital age.
>
What balance? There were no public consultations with Canadians. Have you seen the comments on the CBC website? This bill was made in Canada as a gift to US lobbyists. You refused to consult with interested Canadian groups such as the Canadian Music Creators coalition, http://www.musiccreators.ca/wp/ so who is this bill really for again?
> What does Bill C-61 mean to Canadians?
> It means we stifle innovation, and lose digital rights and freedoms we have enjoyed for years, to enrich a few well heeled content industry players and middlemen.
> Specifically, it includes measures that would:
>
> expressly allow you to record TV shows for later viewing; copy legally purchased music onto other devices, such as MP3 players or cell phones; make back-up copies of legally purchased books, newspapers, videocassettes and photographs onto devices you own;
> *
Unless the broadcaster has turned on their broadcast flag bit (Your digital locks provision) or the cell phone carrier has locked their phone, (they all do) or the "legally purchased videocasette" has Macrovision turned on. (They all do) Then the illusion of all of these so called rights disappears and we face a $20,000 fine for "breaking digital locks." Thanks to you it is now illegal to transfer my legally purchased VHS tapes to DVD format, since VHS is becoming obsolete.
Except you now narrow the definition of "legally purchased music". Music and videos must now be repurchased every time you move it to a new platform. Copying songs from legally purchased CDs to an iPod is now illegal (you have to repurchase again them to use a different formats)
Playing legally purchased DVDs under Linux, (since it entails bypassing your "digital locks") is now illegal.
Playing legally purchased DVDs with foreign region codes such as Indian, Chinese or European DVDs (I have a lot of Indian and Chinese friends) in Canada is now illegal.
As a firmware engineer, I also lose my freedom to tinker with products I have purchased ( so-called digital locks again ) and extend them in ways the manufacturer never intended - such as turning video game consoles into home file servers.
and limit the "statutory damages" a court could award for all private use copyright infringements;
> * It opens the door for mass US style RIAA lawsuits that have seen everything from dead people to computer illiterate grandmothers sent settlement (extortion) letters for allegedly (and most improbably) downloading gangsta rap.
Manufacturers of lower cost after market products such as printer cartridges and garage door openers have been shut down by tricks such as putting chips with so called "digital locks" into printer cartridges. The after market product now becomes illegal. I can't wait to see what the automotive industry is going to do with this.
implement new rights and protections for copyright holders, tailored to the Internet, to encourage participation in the online economy, as well as stronger legal remedies to address Internet piracy;
> *
The IEEE (Institute of Electrical & Electronic Engineers) ran an article last year http://www.spectrum.ieee.org/jun06/3673 describing exactly how the DMCA has wiped out entire classes of new products or forced them to be crippled to the point of uselessness. This law has effectively stifled innovation by giving the dinosours a veto over future inovation. But what would an association representing 365000 engineers in over 150 countries know? I work with many other engineers and every one I spoke with is dead set against this.
clarify the roles and responsibilities of Internet Service Providers related to the copyright content flowing over their network facilities; and
> * provide photographers with the same rights as other creators.
> * What Bill C-61 does not do:
>
> it would not empower border agents to seize your iPod or laptop at border crossings, contrary to recent public speculation
> * No, that comes when you sign the upcoming ACTA agreement, unless you have some sort of proof of purchase for every song or video on your iPod or Laptop, right?
What this Bill is not:
>
> it is not a mirror image of U.S. copyright laws.
> * According to Michael Geist, it is even worse than the DMCA because there are even fewer Anti-Circumvention provisions.
Thank you for sharing your views on this important matter.
>
And since are just paying lip service, I will be sharing my views with lots of people who will listen, and will likely remove you from power next election. You have a very thin minority, it doesn't take much to tip the balance. You have just turned hundreds of thousands of voting Canadians into criminals.
The Honourable Jim Prentice, P.C., Q.C., M.P.
> Minister of Industry
>
> The Honourable Josée Verner, P.C., M.P.
> Minister of Canadian Heritage, Status of Women
> and Official Languages and Minister for
> La Francophonie
>
By the way, I have been an active PC supporter all of my life, and my family actively supported Mr. Van Loan and put a sign out for him while we were living in Newmarket. You can take me at my word that I will now actively campaign to throw you all out of office, (Harold Albrect is our local member) and will never vote Tory again. I will be educating my friends and family as to what this bill really takes from them. My parents actively campaigned for Mike Wallace in Burlington, but I am now strongly urging them (and all of my friends) not to do so in the future. Most of the engineers I work with (The Waterloo area is a technology hub) expressed shock and dismay when they heard about this bill, many who were conservative supporters in the past. They are smart people who are not fooled by your window dressing either. Fortunately we still have "strong legal remedies" against politicians who don't listen to or care for their constituents. - inactive, on 06/18/2008, -0/+15Sweden ain't safe anymore either. Its amazing how one ***** country can destroy freedom the whole world over.
- inactive, on 06/18/2008, -0/+14Thanks for the link. Sent that letter and everyone else should too, yknow, just incase.
- Seidoger, on 06/18/2008, -2/+16US. Canada's ass?
- Zorkon, on 06/18/2008, -0/+13erhanaltay,
I'd ask if you bothered to read the bill, but it's pretty obvious that you haven't.
I have nothing against IP owners wanting to manage their properties. But there is something called "Fair Use" that needs to be taken into account. An example of Fair Use would be the right to transfer media (that I own) from one format to another. Say, from a DVD to my Apple TV. Under current Canadian law, that is acceptable. Under the new bill, it is not.
More worrisome is the "escape clauses" built into the law. The Conservative government is stating that this bill guarantees the rights of Canadians to listen to their music on whatever device they want to, or to watch their digital video on any device they care to ... sounds good so far, right? Except for the little conditional clause that says "Unless digital rights protection technology was circumvented in doing so". Which basically makes liars of the Conservatives, and takes all those so-generously-granted "rights" away from the people. - mriegger, on 06/18/2008, -0/+13Emails are good, a hardcopy is even better. And you don't need postage when mailing them to your MP
- charliwag, on 06/18/2008, -2/+15Not To be Offensive (I Love Americans) but If Canada is the US' Little Brother then it definitely got its genes from the OTHER side of the family...
- schestowitz, on 06/18/2008, -6/+19So the crooks from Hollywood want to buy some new laws. O Canada!
- stinger666, on 06/18/2008, -0/+11Why the ***** is this bill not getting any mainstream canadian media attention? They sure do seem to care about M. Bernier sex adventures...
- Crisender111, on 06/18/2008, -0/+11***** Bush the times Firefox is downloaded today.
- SUPERCHIMP, on 06/18/2008, -0/+10Write your MP. I did and got a positive response.
http://webinfo.parl.gc.ca/MembersOfParliament/Main ... - ryleyleckie, on 06/18/2008, -0/+9***** HARPER
- SuperMoses, on 06/18/2008, -0/+9Send the same letter to your local MP as well.
http://canada.gc.ca/directories-repertoires/direct ... - inactive, on 06/18/2008, -0/+9I've sent so many emails now, I've lost track.
I'm going to try to take a day off work to speak with my MP if possible. I might even go to Ottawa if necessary.
In all honesty, though... I don't think we can stop it. - gr00v3, on 06/18/2008, -1/+10There's no point in arguing with Conservatives. Trying to talk Harper out of something is like trying to talk to a wall.
- elmuerte17, on 06/18/2008, -0/+8It's not a matter of removing the technology. the bill intends to criminalize the circumvention of any copy protection.
- umbrellainabin, on 06/18/2008, -1/+9***** BUSH
***** THE RIAA
***** THE MPAA
***** THE IFPI
***** THE BFI
***** VIACOM
***** MEDIADEFENDER
***** AT&T - BoneheadFarker, on 06/18/2008, -0/+8Already did this last week. Here's my response from them. Basically, they don't want to really hear what we have to say...
____________________________________
The Government of Canada has introduced Bill C-61, An Act to Amend the Copyright Act. The proposed legislation is a made-in-Canada approach that balances the needs of Canadian consumers and copyright owners, promoting culture, innovation and competition in the digital age.
What does Bill C-61 mean to Canadians?
Specifically, it includes measures that would:
* expressly allow you to record TV shows for later viewing; copy legally purchased music onto other devices, such as MP3 players or cell phones; make back-up copies of legally purchased books, newspapers, videocassettes and photographs onto devices you own; and limit the "statutory damages" a court could award for all private use copyright infringements;
* implement new rights and protections for copyright holders, tailored to the Internet, to encourage participation in the online economy, as well as stronger legal remedies to address Internet piracy;
* clarify the roles and responsibilities of Internet Service Providers related to the copyright content flowing over their network facilities; and
* provide photographers with the same rights as other creators.
What Bill C-61 does not do:
* it would not empower border agents to seize your iPod or laptop at border crossings, contrary to recent public speculation
What this Bill is not:
* it is not a mirror image of U.S. copyright laws. Our Bill is made-in-Canada with different exceptions for educators, consumers and others and brings us into line with more than 60 countries including Japan, France, Germany and Australia
Bill C-61 was introduced in the Commons on June 12, 2008 by Industry Minister Jim Prentice and Heritage Minister Josée Verner.
For more information, please visit the Copyright Reform Process website at www.ic.gc.ca/epic/site/crp-prda.nsf/en/home
Thank you for sharing your views on this important matter.
The Honourable Jim Prentice, P.C., Q.C., M.P.
Minister of Industry
The Honourable Josée Verner, P.C., M.P.
Minister of Canadian Heritage, Status of Women
and Official Languages and Minister for
La Francophonie - daRoach, on 06/18/2008, -0/+8Dude, Canada is America's little brother... Would you just let some bully beat up your little brother?
- inactive, on 06/18/2008, -0/+8Emails are almost completely useless in comparison to an actual physical copy! Sending a letter to your MP doesn't require any postage.
Send as many physical letters as you can to Jim Prentice, Stephen Harper, and Josee Verner. Also send mail to your local MP. Only when their offices are filled with letters of angry protest will they realize the scope of discontent over this bill. - Willravel, on 06/18/2008, -1/+8And if they lose the election but stay in office?
- Ford_Prefect2nd, on 06/18/2008, -0/+7Canada didn't help you when? Certainly we were there in your time of need. More Canadians than any other country helped you during 9/11. Hell people allowed you Yanks to stay in their homes when your plains were forced to land, then we went to Afghanistan to help you, what the hell else do you want from us? If your referring to your DRM issues, I actually did write letters to your government at the time, though not as fervently as I may for this, but I didn't realize it was so bad, I learned from your mistakes.
So you only help people who have helped you in the past, shame on you. - steviep111, on 06/18/2008, -3/+9Man, I really hope this doesn't pass into law...
- rofthorax, on 06/18/2008, -0/+6What is so retarded about this copy protection and legal crap is that stuff will get pirated regardless.. It doesn't stop pirates, it stops consumers from using stuff they've justifiably purchased. Now I have no problem with having a license that says I am only allowed to use content I've purchased in certain ways, but when it becomes DRM or encryption, with license servers, and laws, etc.. IT has stopped being pirate protection, and has stepped over into consumer rights. The only way to fight it is to boycott it.. I'm boycotting Microsoft and using Ubuntu, for instance. I wil not purchase int Vista, nor hardware that is Vista centric.. But I say anyone not fit to do this is a DRM Pussy and should shut up. I do not buy music from iTunes, I buy from Amazon MP3. Amazon makes a downloader for Ubuntu, and their mp3's contain no DRM. I do buy games that run on Wine, or Ubuntu, but not any that don't work on Wine.
The ones I'm boycotting are Microsoft and Apple, not legitimate software vendors like ID and Valve. I also prefer NVidia graphics cards as they are well supported on Linux..
- sweetholymosiah, on 06/18/2008, -0/+6And people want to abolish the Senate as it is...
- wonkavsn, on 06/18/2008, -0/+6I voted for Harper.. twice, and it's stuff like this that makes me really regret that decision.
Unfortunately, the only real options are the Conservatives and the bed wetting Liberals. - SuperMoses, on 06/18/2008, -0/+6Or this: http://www.copyrightforcanadians.ca/action/firstlo ...
- inactive, on 06/18/2008, -1/+7never met a yank i have got along with.... with a president like yours i'd be miserable too. your excused.
- diggmc, on 06/18/2008, -0/+5This law is so draconian that is makes the DMCA look like a sweet smelling rose....
Any MP voting for C-61, can hand in your resignation. I WON'T be voting for you at the next election and I'll make dame sure everyone I know, knows exactly why too.
C-61 Stinks!
G. - orlyfactor, on 06/18/2008, -0/+5That's something severely lacking in the world - personal responsibility.
- cnosal, on 06/18/2008, -0/+5I've sent a few emails to Mr Telegdi over the course of this C-61 business, and have yet to receive even a form letter reply. Good to know my interests as a Canadian voter are being looked after ... oh wait!
- Ford_Prefect2nd, on 06/18/2008, -0/+5Yes actually, your president thanked half the countries on the planet after 9/11, but left out the one that leant the most aid, it was insulting and has yet to say oops sorry.
- forgeflow, on 06/18/2008, -0/+5Harveywallbanger, let me introduce you to a new service available to you on the internet - Google search. All you have to do is go to Google, and type a few words relating to the information you'd like to search for. In this case, I used "Russian software developer DCMA ebook" and pulled up the following article:
http://www.eff.org/cases/us-v-elcomsoft-sklyarov
Hope this helps you out. -
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