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- jacks0n, on 10/12/2007, -1/+35you can open up a virtual machine, fill it with viruses/spyware from porn sites .. and when you're finished, just delete a file and it's all gone.
- diegocg, on 10/12/2007, -1/+28Link for the real and readable list of changes, instead of the SCM log: http://kernelnewbies.org/Linux_2_6_20
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -2/+27Someone please break this down into how each change will affect my porn browsing.
- DRTED, on 10/12/2007, -5/+30The kernal is quite stable unless you apply heat, then it will pop
- mozzep, on 10/12/2007, -1/+23Is it just me or does there always seem to be a lot more development being done for Linux than for Windows? Even with Vista just released.
- inactive, on 12/26/2008, -0/+102.6.20 makes linux join to the virtualization trends. This release adds two virtualization implementations: A full-virtualization implementation that uses Intel/AMD hardware virtualization capabilities called KVM (http://kvm.sourceforge.net) and a paravirtualization implementation (http://lwn.net/Articles/194543) that can be used by different hypervisors (Rusty's lguest; Xen and Vmware in the future, etc),. But this release also adds initial Sony Playstation 3 support, a fault injection debugging feature (http://lwn.net/Articles/209257), UDP-lite support, better per-process IO accounting, relative atime, support for using swap files for suspend users, relocatable x86 kernel support for kdump users, small microoptimizations in x86 (sleazy FPU, regparm, support for the Processor Data Area, optimizations for the Core 2 platform), a generic HID layer, DEEPNAP power savings for PPC970, lockless radix-tree readside, shared pagetables for hugetbl, ARM support for the AT91 and iop13xx processors, full NAT for nf_conntrack and many other things.
From http://kernelnewbies.org/Linux_2_6_20 - digga, on 10/12/2007, -1/+9Go KVM!
Plus better EFI support (Intel Macs). - Tsen, on 10/12/2007, -0/+8It shouldn't prevent Windows from booting. Providing you know how to use the boot manager--which isn't terribly complicated. I'd actually say the blame probably lies with Windows on that one--Linux plays nice with multi-booting OS's, Windows doesn't like to.
- 21chrisp, on 10/12/2007, -1/+9"the highly modular NT (4-6) kernel is quite the marvel of programming."
I guess no one will ever know because no one outside of MS really has much of an idea what the NT kernel looks like internally. My impression was that NT4 was very well done, but I'm not so sure if 5 or 6 carried on this tradition. That's just my impression as a user though. Linux development does occur more rapidly, mostly just because the Linux kernel source includes a ton of driver variety that NT doesn't have. Even just in terms of filesystems, the NT kernel just supports a few where the Linux kernel has numerous options. This isn't good or bad for either necessarily, it just means there's a lot more overall activity in the Linux tree just due to the different nature of the project. - stmiller, on 10/12/2007, -1/+7"Is it just me or does there always seem to be a lot more development being done for Linux than for Windows? Even with Vista just released."
Microsoft is a textbook bureaucracy. A main 'feature' of bureaucracies is the lack of being productive, despite plenty of financial support, and solid organization infrastructure. And ironically, the 'anti-bureaucracy' sort of group which has total freedom, no financial support, and no red-tape infrastructure comes out more productive.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bureaucracy - digga, on 10/12/2007, -0/+6Or Intel's equivalent.
- lengau, on 10/12/2007, -0/+6@crazyGerman - When did you try it? If it was more than a year ago, I'd REALLY suggest you try it again. Ubuntu's latest (Feisty Fawn) will be out in April. It should be really nice (the prereleases that I've been playing with are). If it was less than a year ago, I'd suggest trying again in December.
When I first tried Linux, I had Mandrake 9. It was okay, but I found it scary and went back to Windows. But, like you, I liked the virtual desktops. So I tried again with Fedora Core. I liked it even more, and dual booted for a while. Then I switched to Gentoo (taught me a LOT about my computer), and now I'm on Kubuntu (I like KDE). So it'll take some time, to switch over, but it really is worth it. Plus, Virtualization is getting easier by the minute, in case you still need Windows.
No matter when you used Linux, Why not download one of the free VMWare Player images with Ubuntu? It'll help you become accustomed to Linux better (without the danger of losing any data) - Protoss, on 10/12/2007, -1/+6=/ KVM requires an AM2 processor...damnit.
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -0/+5Woo! KVM!
- October, on 10/12/2007, -0/+5Avalontor said "It's because Linux has so much catching up to do, I mean come on"
LOL! You forgot the sarcasm tags. - coredump0x01, on 10/12/2007, -0/+5Well you could already do that before 2.6.20, but this new version allows you to run two different operating systems at once with little or no performance loss.
- dougbarrett, on 10/12/2007, -0/+4I for one am very happy for this release. 2.16.17 and above killed nvidia-proprietary drivers + ndiswrapper w/ broadcom; and as far as I know, they fixed this issue in this kernel.
Some of you Compaq owners probably know what i'm talking about. - coredump0x01, on 10/12/2007, -0/+4"And you can read more filesystems with NT just by adding the appropriate driver.. recompilation of the whole kernel optional."
Recompile the kernel for a filesystem driver? Any major distro already has these options compiled in and I can honestly say, in all my years running Linux i've only recompiled the kernel once when I was learning a bit about how it worked. Otherwise for filesystem drivers, device drivers etc have all been accessable via the mount command or a call to modprobe, even experimental MMC drivers are already compiled into my kernel. Kernel recompilation is as you say, optional. - dougbarrett, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3@Firefighter:
With a Compaq v3010us, or it seems to be any combination of the SMP kernel, proprietary NVIDIA driver and the ndiswrapper for the broadcom 4319 chipset, then you will lose your internet connection because of a conflict between the NVIDIA driver and ndiswrapper. It doesn't happen with the x86-64 kernel, just the x86 kernel. It's a small annoyance, since I could use the "nv" drivers, but I don't get the 3D acceleration with the card which means no AIGLX/Beryl effects for me. - shinynew, on 10/12/2007, -1/+4Wait what? its 2007? thanks for the update, man I had no idea.
- sishgupta, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3Intel's equivalent is IVT (Intel Virtualization Technology)
aka. "Vanderpool"
i know thats at least in the core 2 duos - Avalontor, on 10/12/2007, -4/+7It's because Linux has so much catching up to do, I mean come on
- FirefighterBlu3, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3Killed it since when? I've been using nv proprietary on .17, .18, .19, and now .20. RC, .X, and full release.
Always seems to work for me in gentoo - JoeUser, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2@ACrazyGerman - Did you add windows to the bootloader (grub/lilo/etc)? Did you install the bootloader to the MBR rather then the partition?
Also, you can get "the multi workspace thing" for windows too. Microsoft has a free download from their Powertoys but it's just a few lame blue circles on the task bar. A better one is Virtual Dimension (http://virt-dimension.sourceforge.net/). - Curufir, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2Still waiting for my USB mouse to power down when I shutdown. That hasn't worked since they rewrote the USB core.
- shinynew, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2well you two have fun in your little corner. Dont ever leave it.
- burke, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2no.
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2Screw the hack job that is -beyond. Con Kolivas (-ck) FTW!
- GMorgan, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2NT is not renown for being good. The source code for Win 2000 was leaked a while back and was universally condemned as hackish. You can compile/add a driver without recompiling the whole kernel in Linux.
- Mike_N, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1Does this mean that any Linux Distro will update to this Kernal or do we have to wait for all the Distros to put out new versions? As far as I can tell, the last Kernal didn't like my Laptop's wireless adapter and has been quite a pain.
- BlackAdderIII, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1"""the highly modular NT (4-6) kernel is quite the marvel of programming."""
Since we have no way of proving or refuting that, it's a meaningless claim.
"""And you can read more filesystems with NT just by adding the appropriate driver.. recompilation of the whole kernel optional."""
You can read more filesystems with Linux without recompiling anything at all. Recompilation of the whole Linux kernel is no more necessary than NT's to add support for such things, but it's an option if you ever want to. I've not heard of anyone having to recompile their kernel for FS support in a long time.
There is no option to recompile the NT kernel to add functionality or support either way, but you can add external stuff on either. This means NT provides a narrow slice of what you can do with Linux. - burke, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1"And you can read more filesystems with NT just by adding the appropriate driver"
Yeah, there's NTFS, FAT32, FAT16, and... uhh... What was... that.... other one...? - NoobieDoobieDo, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1Read the actual link, very funny.
- martypal2005, on 10/12/2007, -2/+3If this means that u can put linux on intel mac's I might concider getting a mac.
- JOOH8R, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1keep em coming
i say this new kernel is great, wat a long list of features - burke, on 10/12/2007, -1/+1Wow, 5 hours and beyond-sources aren't updated yet. :)
- redxii, on 10/12/2007, -3/+3And you can read more filesystems with NT just by adding the appropriate driver.. recompilation of the whole kernel optional.
- mlw4428, on 10/12/2007, -4/+4@derek20cali
Seriously dude...are you ***** retarded? Think before posting. Douchebag
-1 Digg - NoobieDoobieDo, on 10/12/2007, -3/+3I thought it was funny.
- ACrazyGerman, on 10/12/2007, -1/+1I tried it a week ago with the latest version of Ubuntu. Just wasn't my thing, plus i lost all my porn.
@JoeUser
I just did the basic Ubuntu Install my friends did it with the same disk and had no trouble no idea why mine went haywire. - GMorgan, on 10/12/2007, -2/+1Yeah ck seems to be among the better patch sets. Bet the Windows users love that there are a million forks of each kernel version ;).
- GMorgan, on 10/12/2007, -2/+1Digg effect has taken it down. Server must be running Windows or BSD or something ¬_¬.
//edit - got it now, took some time for a txt file though.// - shuffle2, on 10/12/2007, -5/+3...or you could restore it to an earlier state! even better!
- almighty, on 10/12/2007, -3/+1I love Linux and all but I do believe that it does have a long way to go.
- SVPirate, on 10/12/2007, -4/+1[Dvorak]Oh Brother![/Dvorak]
Does this mean my NVIDIA driver is gonna break *Again* (as it did with the 2.6.19 upgrade). Linux is a mess. Admit it... - djfelix, on 10/12/2007, -4/+1Dugg down for being impossible to read. How about a blog entry or the like with the highlights?
- BrainInAJar, on 10/12/2007, -9/+1what, you don't like the out-of-memory killer?
it's "helpful" - Enmitix, on 10/12/2007, -12/+3It's just you. Make fun of the windows GUI and memory hogging applications all you want, but the highly modular NT (4-6) kernel is quite the marvel of programming.
- SammyJr, on 10/12/2007, -12/+3People still dualboot? This is 2007. VMWare, people!
- ACrazyGerman, on 10/12/2007, -15/+4Tried Linux out with dual boot and it prevented Windows from booting up so i had to reformat just gonna stick with what I know Windows. But I did like a lot of the linux ideas like the multi workspace thing.
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