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Sourceforge.net Blocked In Mainland China

moon-blog.com — SourceForge, the world ’s largest development and download repository of Open Source code and applications, appears to blocked in Mainland China on the eve of Beijing 2008 Olympic Games.The current blocking may be related to the recent anti-China protests of Beijing Olympic Games, which began on 8 August in Beijing.

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  • huangweiqiu, on 06/27/2008, -25/+9hi ,bro, i am in Guangzhou city ,China. I do can visit SourceForge smoothly.Why do so many nasty guys make so many rumour on China?China is a star ?if you guys don't believe in me,please use proxy tool with a china ip to check .
    • philovivero, on 06/27/2008, -6/+3""if you guys don't believe in me,please use proxy tool with a china ip to check.""

      I don't believe you. But I don't know any proxy tools, nor would I know how to find a proxy outside my country. That you assume everyone knows how to set up their browsers to use proxy tools in other countries is itself somewhat telling.
      • Thater, on 06/28/2008, -0/+6your browser should have a proxy option built in, under connection settings somewhere... and proxies are usually listed with their country of origin.

        http://www.proxy4free.com/page1.html

        Also, huangweiqiu sounds like a thoroughly indoctrinated propaganda mouthpiece.
      • twiztidsinz, on 06/28/2008, -0/+2@Thater: Thanks for the link, bookmarked :-)
      • ogmak, on 06/28/2008, -0/+2When i lived in Shanghai for two years, i went to www.hidemyass.com to go to places like Wikipedia and blogspot (yes....those sites were blocked where i lived, and it sucked). Though I dont know if it still works... that was a year ago.
    • munwaal, on 06/28/2008, -0/+10Sorry buddy. I'm in Shenzhen and have no access to the site. I get "The connection to the server was reset" message, which is typical of a site blocked by the "great firewall".
    • cokobware, on 06/28/2008, -1/+5FAIL
    • rz8472, on 06/28/2008, -1/+3Wait why isn't Digg blocked by the Great Firewall? I see articles critical of the PRC at least every week here.
      • nmnnotmyname, on 06/28/2008, -0/+2Actually, this is a really good point, why IS Digg unblocked?
  • huangweiqiu, on 06/27/2008, -3/+24updated information. people in northern of China really can't visit.don't know why
    • Philluminati, on 06/27/2008, -3/+31coz they have been blocked.
      • ufia, on 06/28/2008, -16/+1Is it coz they are black?
      • TunaFishGangsta, on 06/28/2008, -0/+3That is Chinese in South Africa that are now "black", not Chinese in Northern province of China. If that's what you're referring to.
      • TunaFishGangsta, on 06/28/2008, -0/+3Yeah, but who blocked them is the question. This digg indicates that it's sourceforge, but more likely it's the great firewall of China.
      • twiztidsinz, on 06/28/2008, -0/+5SourceForge has no reason to block China.
        If SF blocked China, it'd be hurting the people that live there, not the government, and SF is all about freedom of information for the people.

        From what I read in the same article as you, the only person saying anything about China is the author of NotePad++ who is boycotting Beijing 2008 and based on his stance I would have to assume the author is not blocking the people either for the reason I stated above.
        This very much seems like it's the governments doing.
      • nmnnotmyname, on 06/28/2008, -0/+2It's obviously the government's doing, don't trick yourself into thinking otherwise. All governments suck somehow.
      • daza, on 06/28/2008, -0/+1Notepad++ FTW.
    • Glugory, on 06/27/2008, -2/+22People don't need to spread false rumors about China. Your government does a good enough job being complete ***** heads that we don't need to make ***** up.
    • georgeker, on 06/28/2008, -0/+0I know why ! Because there aren't "so many nasty guys" out there! They just spread some news about wtf is happening in China and they have no profit from this.

      Where is this going to stop????????
  • Vampyronight, on 06/27/2008, -0/+36I live in the central (slightly north) part of China and, well, I'll just say that Sourceforge isn't working for me. Whether it's due to government censors or not, I don't know. To be honest, the censors have been kind of wonky for the past few months- sometimes a site is blocked, then mysteriously returns, only to be blocked again (or vice versa).
    • Daggity, on 06/28/2008, -0/+6Get out while you can!
    • kurtwinter, on 06/28/2008, -3/+9Sourceforge has always been blocked!
      Sourceforge has never been blocked!
      Eastasia has always been our ally!
      We've always been at war with Eastasia!

      FTFY
    • angrykeyboarder, on 06/28/2008, -0/+1Uhhh Can't they incarcerate torture and maim for the next 30 years just for sharing this information with us?
    • stuffradio, on 06/28/2008, -0/+2I'm surprised you can get on digg.
  • mrloco, on 06/27/2008, -3/+18lol were they spreading anti communist rumours in source code or something?

    • alanr19, on 06/28/2008, -0/+15No. If you read the article its about the Notepad++ sub-site boycotting the olympics. Which makes so sense anyway.
      • angrykeyboarder, on 06/28/2008, -1/+2What a coincidence. I just downloaded that app yesterday. I saw their boycott mesage and now read this story on Digg.

        Weird timing on my part.
      • calebh, on 06/28/2008, -1/+1Wow, I downloaded it yesterday too! It runs on wine :D
      • rowjimmy, on 06/28/2008, -1/+0@calebh - get geany, it's an equally good (in my mind, much better) programmers text-editor that is native gtk (assuming you are running *nix; on mac, shell out the cash for text-mate, it is worth ti)
  • TGMD, on 06/27/2008, -6/+43Because we all know that open source is the most anti-communist act one can take..
    ...wait a moment!
    • Atomic1fire, on 06/27/2008, -7/+4except Opensource software has its business usage
      infact the GPL allows commercial use
      meaning that even though the software is distributed to everyone legally
      Someone could make a business selling cds
      or sell support (in the cases of things like operating systems) so that a home user or a high end business user could make sure that they have no problems using the software.
      so it basically sums up to still paying for the software but you dont have to since there is community support, but this is not feasible for big businesses because they want dedicated people that work on solving problems.
    • trogdoor, on 06/28/2008, -0/+21China is Communist only in the oppressive way ( their economy is very capitalist ) and open source is only Communist in the equality way, open source is in no way counter to Free democratic society or even capitalism.
  • kaelyiesta, on 06/27/2008, -1/+7Perhaps its the beginning of the chinese internet cultural revolution. Soon the forum trolls will be granted ownership of all wiki articles, spammers will get to 'criticize' anyone who sells things on ebay and craigslist and all the highly valued domain names will be given to people who use myspace. The new Mao will be the owner of ebaumsworld and Zhou will rise from the ranks of the 4chan hordes.
  • JohnAdams999, on 06/28/2008, -7/+17Why are we having the Olympics in China again? And why are no countries boycotting them?
    • MiDri, on 06/28/2008, -0/+8I know right?

      They're as bad as nazis over there!

      Wait...
      • twiztidsinz, on 06/28/2008, -0/+4Yes... holding the Olympics in Nazi Germany was a bad idea... but did they really have to go and make another stupid choice?

        I'm all for giving people another chance, but how about they show us change before we take them at their word. This should not have been a surprise to anyone.
      • robrohan, on 06/28/2008, -0/+1@twiztidsinz I think because the Olympic games (at least to my understanding) are supposed to be a time for all countries to put aside their differences and just engage in friendly competition. Leaving politics, religion, and other biases out of it. At least, that was my understanding.
    • bloosteak, on 06/28/2008, -4/+14Why should they be boycotted? Isn't America the worst offender of pretty much anything nowadays?
      • nmnnotmyname, on 06/28/2008, -1/+2Yeah, but come on, that's a lame excuse.
      • hmunkey, on 06/28/2008, -3/+4Say what you want, but we are not the worst offenders of human rights and citizen oppression.

        People always rag on our government, and I can see why, but China makes us look amazingly nice.
    • HolyChimp, on 06/28/2008, -4/+2If countries started boycotting China then all us westerners would have to find some other country to make all our high-tech gadgets on the cheap...
  • jdelator, on 06/28/2008, -7/+2Why do you guys assume China blocked SF and not SF blocked china?
    • trogdoor, on 06/28/2008, -1/+10Because according to that traceroute the problem starts with a Chinese service provider's ip and not sourceforge.
    • twiztidsinz, on 06/28/2008, -0/+12Oh yes.. because clearly SourceForge has a long history of suppressing the freedom of information.




      do I really need a sarcasm tag?
  • peaceninja, on 06/28/2008, -5/+1the comments in this same blog mention that SF is no longer blocked and/or the author thought that SF was blocked but it was a plugin causing the problem
    • bscene, on 06/28/2008, -0/+4read again... it was a commenter that said his trackback was broken because of a plugin not the author
  • Sephr, on 06/28/2008, -0/+9If they REALLY have to block the protest, they should only block notepad-plus.sourceforge.net and not all of SF.net
  • asspants, on 06/28/2008, -1/+6When I was in the Navy, the ships at sea have internets (very SLOW internets)
    They decided that sourceforge was not an acceptable place for me to visit and banned it too.
    This was about 2002-2003
  • aenegeling, on 06/28/2008, -5/+6Just to clarify.. if it ever were a protest, it surely isn't an "anti-china" protest at all. People are protesting against the Chinese government, not China in and of itself.

    The Chinese Communist Party has always worked hard to create the illusion that the CCP = China, and that without the CCP there would be "no new China".....

    This kind of protest and boycott (something I think we'll be seeing a LOT more of in the next couple of months) are aimed directly at that group of criminal gangsters that control the government..

    Down with the Chinese Comunist Party! Free the Tibetans, and free the Falun Gong followers.
    • bloosteak, on 06/28/2008, -7/+1Falun Gong is a cult. Tibetans are freakin' violent.
    • cokobware, on 06/28/2008, -4/+1I don't give a ***** about Tibet or Falun Gong in this thread - it's deflecting the issue... Just wanted to agree with the statements that China Chinese people... everyone's gotta get their head out of their asses and stop drinking the propaganda koolaid and keep an open mind, not tow the party line on both sides of the Pacific...
  • Carv, on 06/28/2008, -6/+27Dear Chinese government,
    ***** you.

    Sincerely,
    ~Carv.
  • corporatebee, on 06/28/2008, -0/+6Tis blocked just checked.. we'll add that to the ever growing list of sites that the net nanny doesn't like: wordpress, funny-games.biz, parts of BBC, etc etc etc

  • Seantacular, on 06/28/2008, -9/+3China can suck a dick.
    • EndlessRain, on 06/28/2008, -2/+3no, i think u got china mixed up with ur mother
    • anthonyae, on 06/28/2008, -2/+0You know,chinese people are cowards,why else u think they let this ***** government control them?
  • l0k0, on 06/28/2008, -0/+8Do they realize that this brings 10x more attention to the issue than if they just left it alone? How many of you knew NP++ was doing this before? And do they really think their own citizens don't know about this yet?
    • anthonyae, on 06/28/2008, -4/+0Like I said before,chinese people are stupid and coward.trustme I know them.
  • RajAtWork, on 06/28/2008, -1/+2it was blocked at 3 out of 4 US three-letter-agencies I consulted for in the past. So what?
  • xsquirrel378x, on 06/28/2008, -0/+4Good luck guys
  • nutellabot, on 06/28/2008, -1/+2Confirmed, my friend in Shanghai can't do that. I guess the reason why the freaking idiots blocked it is Sourceforge hosts some software that can bypass the Great Firewall?

    Go suck my ass, and of course balls, such a shame.
    • anthonyae, on 06/28/2008, -1/+0I agree with U,the ***** government has brought nothing but pain to their people,***** them
  • kinship, on 06/28/2008, -1/+8Funny, sourceforge is probably the most communist thing on the net.. i mean, it practically is free, and good, software for everyone. Kinda like how communism was supposed to be eh?
    • georgeker, on 06/28/2008, -1/+0Sorry but that's not Communism ....
      Communism is "ok you are a programmer , now stfu and make us drivers for everyone's good even you don't want to!!" .
    • bj1989, on 06/30/2008, -0/+1*supposed* to be
    • faif, on 07/03/2008, -0/+0but china is ruled by bloody capitalists now and the worst ones.
  • julianrod, on 06/28/2008, -2/+1Dictators never learn... Just tell the truth to your people. Everybody knows what happened in Tiananmen square, everybody knows what happens in Tibet...

    Just let people say it! I'm not saying that you should drop your ego-driven positions of power, but let people say whatever they want.
  • davost, on 06/28/2008, -3/+1Hay Hu Jintao, Why don't you go ***** your self?
  • davost, on 06/28/2008, -3/+0Hay Hu Jintao, Why don't you go ***** your self?
  • icry0000, on 06/28/2008, -1/+1The routers in China is not good, and the route configuration is in a disorder condition, so i guess, maybe it's not blocked by gov, but a wrong setup/change.
  • seshomarusamma, on 06/28/2008, -0/+3icry0000 this has nothing to do with routers.
    the site is blocked deliberately

    here in shanghai I cannot access sourceforge.net

    but i can access most projects there like:
    http://ettercap.sourceforge.net/
    http://corefonts.sourceforge.net/
    http://tidy.sourceforge.net/

    etc.. etc..
  • JorgeGT, on 06/28/2008, -0/+1Could anyone in mainland China who has blocked access provide us with a trace route log to these blocked sites and accesible ones? Could be interesting to see if we reach the great firewall.
    • seshomarusamma, on 06/28/2008, -1/+1I'd do that except the routers in my ISP do not allow icmp/udp packets.

      sesho@desktop:~$ traceroute www.sourceforge.net
      traceroute to www.sourceforge.net (216.34.181.60), 30 hops max, 40 byte packets
      1 * * *
      2 * * *
      3 * * *
      4 * * *
      5 * * *

      etc. etc...
  • seqizz, on 06/28/2008, -0/+1extra info, youtube access is forbidden in Turkey :
  • dimonay, on 06/28/2008, -0/+1Of all places, China blocks Sourceforge?
  • jacintoo, on 07/02/2008, -0/+1From Shanghai, projects like tortoiseSVN on sourceforge can't be visited.
  • deidgar, on 07/02/2008, -0/+1I can't access sourceforge here in China either and it's quite frustrating. Sourceforge should just edit or remove the political comments so they can unblock the site here. You have to question the appropriateness of politicizing sourceforge in the first place. It's a repository for open source software projects, not a political forum. Whatever a developer's views on China or any other political matter, it doesn't belong in sourceforge - post your rants in an appropriate forum like here at Digg, NOT at sourceforge.
  • huangweiqiu, on 07/02/2008, -0/+2Hello,

    SourceForge.net staff have recently completed a migration of the SourceForge.net site to our new Chicago datacenter. This migration was completed on 2008-06-18.

    As part of this migration, we had updated our DNS to point at the new Chicago datacenter. Unfortunately, you are among the minority (< 0.1锟�of our users whose DNS servers have not yet picked up this change, despite the very short TTL (technical speak for us telling your DNS server to pick up the change).

    Effective 2008-06-20, we have shut down the old California-based site servers, which have been serving your traffic in read-only mode for the last few days. Please accept our apologies that we are unable to provide you service until your DNS servers pick up the changes. We encourage you to contact your service provider for further assistance at this time (they provide your DNS service).

    Thank you,

    SourceForge.net staff
    staff@sourceforge.net
  • hululu, on 07/02/2008, -1/+1Notepad once was my favorite text editor, although I switch to Ultraedit later on, I think Notepad is still one of the best text editors in the world. I appreciate the wonderful work by author of Notepad, however I don't see why he has to announce his political viewpoints in the SourceForge which is only a technical forum. Politics is surely not the first concern of SourceForge and its users. Besides, boycotting Beijing Olympics is not the best way to help China develop its democracy. And I still doubt whether SourceForge is really blocked or if it is just an internet congestion, it is sometimes hard to distinguish the two things.
    • deidgar, on 07/02/2008, -0/+0I agree 100%, hence my post above, sourceforge is not an appropriate forum for sharing political views, period. It's a technical site for opensource projects and should remain that ... the sourceforge staff should take action to clean it up.
  • gzdavidwong, on 07/02/2008, -1/+0i can't access facebook.com in Guangzhou,*****!

    C:Documents and Settingswiki>tracert www.facebook.com

    Tracing route to www.facebook.com [69.63.176.140]
    over a maximum of 30 hops:

    1 11 ms 10 ms 9 ms 219.136.92.1
    2 9 ms 9 ms 9 ms 121.32.96.133
    3 10 ms 10 ms 10 ms 61.144.0.117
    4 9 ms 9 ms 10 ms 61.144.3.6
    5 11 ms 10 ms 10 ms 202.97.26.58
    6 10 ms 11 ms 11 ms 202.97.40.105
    7 10 ms 11 ms 11 ms 202.97.33.110
    8 * * * Request timed out.
    9 * * * Request timed out.
  • wpyh, on 07/11/2008, -0/+1Why does Notepad++ have to put politics in an open source project? Such a shame. I don't support the Communist Government here, but I don't oppose the Games either. Digg me down if you will, but democracy is not suitable for China.
  • conorkirk, on 07/28/2008, -1/+11. block sf in china
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