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- apsivam, on 10/12/2007, -0/+33Grab it here http://download.openoffice.org/2.2.0/index.html
- TubaTechno, on 10/12/2007, -129/+5Great! I love using programs that look exactly like MS Office.
- sigsegfalt, on 10/12/2007, -3/+40@tubatechno
Perhaps this would better suit you: http://www.vim.org - chris9902, on 10/12/2007, -5/+87@tubatechno
I know what you mean. I hate using cars with 4 wheels. just ripping off ford arn't they...... - Mootabolife, on 10/12/2007, -2/+51Remind me to rip off my roof so I don't copy my neighbors.
- TubaTechno, on 10/12/2007, -54/+6Wow...users can't discern between what is or is not sarcasm. I'm a happy Windows Vista and Office user. I was being sarcastic. You know, I was making fun of the whole "X copied Y" lame argument Linux and Mac users use ALL THE TIME.
- SwellGuy007, on 10/12/2007, -22/+7@tubatechno
If you forget the /sarcasm tag at the end you can actually hear the sound of a million anuses puckering all at once.
/sarcasm - Ratteler, on 10/12/2007, -0/+29I though sarcasm was supposed to be funny. Or at least poignant.
I think you were looking for /troll. - EntropyFan, on 10/12/2007, -14/+4God I love digg! If MS does anything that even remotely looks like something from Apple, everyone is all abuzz about how they can't invent, or how they just steal others ideas.
OpenOffice a knock off the Office? We get >>I hate using cars with 4 wheels and >>Remind me to rip off my roof
if the double standard wasn't so disgustingly lame, it would be funny as hell - antini, on 10/12/2007, -1/+2metalinks (listing all mirrors and spreading the load between servers) are available from http://download.packages.ro/metalink/openoffice/
- strabes, on 10/12/2007, -2/+1bury
- Fartag, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1@EntropyFan
Well you've got to understand that Microsoft is MOSTLY EVIL and this affects many peoples' perceptions of them. Software tech copied by Microsoft becomes closed and all manner of things are done to limit your free use of it and its interoperability. To retain their market monopoly they have to control YOU directly or indirectly.
Contrast this to open source software writers, suppose they copy the functionality of a thing as well but when they do this they free it up for everybody. All of a sudden you can copy it as many times as you want, look through the code see what it does, modify it to your heart's content.. Whenever open source writers do anything, even if it's to recreate functionality and improve upon existing tech, the result is essentially liberated.
Maybe you can appreciate these differences and understand the "double standard" ("unfair" complaints against Microsoft being Microsoft, and inexplicable celebration of progress in open source) unless you write proprietary software (in which case there are many other options before open source surpasses the effort), or your company or parents buy the software that you use, or that it's all just pirated to begin with (in which case you're probably SOL if they clamped down on it unless you switch to OSS anyway and so it's better the further they progress now). - Futurepower, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1Don't install it now, because 2.2.0.1 will be out soon. Read the release notes.
- jdwyckoff, on 10/12/2007, -3/+20So, can Calc finally do line of regressions on the graphs?
I'm a science major and that is one major feature that has been lacking, which is kind of strange because Gnumeric is able to do it for quite a while.- baalzebub, on 10/12/2007, -1/+8http://www.texmacs.org/
- santaliqueur, on 10/12/2007, -3/+32What's a "science major"?
- robdiggity, on 10/12/2007, -2/+83@santaliqueur
He's a mid level officer in the Science Army. - miles01110, on 10/12/2007, -1/+28If you're a science major, why are you using OpenOffice Calc? It seems that MATLAB would be much more reliable, not to mention more powerful.
- secleinteer, on 10/12/2007, -0/+10And there's even a *nix version of MATLAB (assuming you're using OOo on *nix).
- wicketr, on 10/12/2007, -1/+21Someone majoring in Sciencetology
- JimV, on 10/12/2007, -4/+2Cuz MatLab isn't free.
- ISVDamocles, on 10/12/2007, -0/+13Then use either Scilab or Octave instead of Matlab. Scilab is less compatible with Matlab .m files, but has a nearly identical UI, while Octave can run most .m files without any changes, but is command-line only.
- crimsonmac, on 10/12/2007, -7/+2@ jimv
Sure Matlab is free! I downloaded it off of pirate bay this morning! - AriZoney, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2Oh Thank GOD. The lack of a regression line has been killing me. I have to fight for a library computer, use Excel and do all my work in one session. Granted it's not the end of the world, but it was a serious pain in the ass.
- rasterbator, on 10/12/2007, -2/+2over in the music department they have the drum major. they are of equal rank.
- hass, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1Insert > Statistics > Linear Regression (scroll down for more regression lines)
It is not as nice as the regression features in MS Office but it's been there since at least version 1.5
- ThetaDot, on 10/12/2007, -1/+51You've got to be kidding me.... I downloaded OO no more than 3 hours ago for my new laptop, and now I'm already out-dated! What luck.
- drmangrum, on 10/12/2007, -0/+49It moves at the speed of open source.
- sexycommando, on 10/12/2007, -0/+39good thing upgrades are free..
- wicketr, on 10/12/2007, -3/+5What are the major differences between OO 2.0 and 2.2. The changelog is way to freaking long and detailed. What are the major changes?
- benplaut, on 10/12/2007, -6/+3No, no no... you have the joke //completely// wrong.
--
But I just finished //compiling// OpenOffice 2.1!!
- HarryBauzonia, on 10/12/2007, -16/+9It's fo' free?
It's fo' me! - mendicitis, on 10/12/2007, -11/+40Now featuring load times of under 3 minutes... somebody had to say it.
- vectorprime, on 10/12/2007, -0/+14I can't speak to other builds, but OOo2.2 on ubuntu feisty beta starts up cold in under 10 seconds for me.
- JimV, on 10/12/2007, -14/+6I just clicked on Word and it started in about 2 seconds. Another thing I wish they'd fix in OpenOffice...loading times.
- bigtomrodney, on 10/12/2007, -0/+10I'm running openSUSE 10.2 on a 2.4GHZ P4, and OOo starts on average in 7-8 seconds.
- Yorn, on 10/12/2007, -0/+10OOo is actually quite fast if you do two things:
1) Disable Java runtime (it's only needed for things like Fax Wizard)
2) Enable loading with Windows.
The latter option might seem kind of cheap, but that's exactly what Windows does when you install Office. If you want proof, record boot times prior to installing Office 2000, XP, or 2003 and after installing them. Be sure to start with a clean system. Additionally, another really great thing to try is the same thing with Adobe Acrobat 8.0. That software increased my dual core system's boot time by over 8 seconds.
Load times are still in the 4 second range, though, versions of Acrobat 6 took about 10 seconds to load for every first PDF file after boot. - ray73864, on 10/12/2007, -1/+0really? wow, that's the first thing i remove from windows startup (both the startup menu and the registry) and Word 2007 fires up in under 5 seconds on my machine.
- Bamborzled, on 10/12/2007, -1/+1@jimv
It doesn't really start in 2 seconds. Microsoft has admitted to loading up the UI elements before the actual logic behind them is usable, making Office seem faster. - HonoredMule, on 10/12/2007, -1/+1And how is that a bad thing?
You SHOULD load the interface first, because as soon as it's there, I can at least start reading text, if not start initiating edits. That the entire engine may not be fully loaded is irrelevant from a usability standpoint.
Load time is one of the key issues holding me away from OO.o. The other is the poor, geographically bloated toolbar design and limited selection of certain key cascading buttons (like line spacing, there are others I don't recall at the moment). - martinnn, on 10/12/2007, -2/+0> HonoredMule on 3/29/07
> And how is that a bad thing?
Personally I find it annoying when an application pretends to be finished loading when it in fact is not. Take Windows XP as an example. On my computer, Windows "starts up" pretty quick. But after the start menu, desktop icons and etc has been displayed, it takes a couple of seconds (like 15-30 or so) before I can actually work efficiently with the computer. During these seconds, Windows launches applications found in the Start-up menu group, finishes the starting of some NT services, etc. And during this time, my computer is slow as scheisse and just annoying to use. Not a big issue, but I would have preferred if Windows could start up the things it's supposed to start up, and then tell me when it's really done. This way, I would have been able to lean back a few more seconds drinking my coffee. - HonoredMule, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2So basically you're saying you'd rather wait 10 seconds than wait 5 seconds followed by 6 seconds of poor performance. (That is an overly-generous estimate of the cost of early interface availability, without compensating for the primary cause of the extra second's delay: doing post-load tasks you were able to initiate earlier.)
...and I'm saying I'd rather work slowly than not at all. At the very least, I'm presented with graphical information that I can start translating into planned interactions, and at best my mind and fingers are kept busy after the first 5 seconds.
- YourDoom123, on 10/12/2007, -7/+12has its speed been improved at all?
- dmitriyvoz, on 10/11/2007, -0/+0The author has mentioned very much a vital topic today. It seems to me that the problematics of this clause enables to reflect and draw conclusions. You can as to look sites in Russian which mention this theme: http://www.rolid.org http://www.se-ua.com
- akapsycho, on 10/12/2007, -20/+6OO takes so long to open I could hand-write my documents faster.
Edit: It looks like everyone hates OO for being slow.- HalFTW, on 10/12/2007, -2/+19Previous version takes 2.5 seconds to load for me, Office 2007 takes 7 seconds (Word processor for both).
- obsaysditto, on 10/12/2007, -1/+27this should be in software not linux/unix.... it can run on windows
- rolandog, on 10/12/2007, -1/+5Weird... I've been using OO 2.2 for some weeks... does anyone know if by using (K)Ubuntu Feisty Fawn you get access to the beta?
- XVampireX, on 10/12/2007, -4/+6Yes, but we don't care about Windows :D
- newevilmind, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1no 2.2 was available in beta for everybody, but now it's moved out of beta.
- appleswitch, on 10/12/2007, -1/+2"this should be in software not linux/unix.... it can run on windows"
But most people who use Windows have no clue anything but office can use office files... or that there is anything besides office... or what 'windows' is. Linux users are very aware to this and a large portion use OOo.
( I'm not saying this is filed correctly, It should be in software, but you can see where it could be confused. ) - tech42er, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1Eh. I use OOo on my Vista boot, because it works well with OOo on my Feisty boot.
- VeganG, on 10/12/2007, -1/+8If I already have OO installed, do I need to uninstall before running this, or what?
- akapsycho, on 10/12/2007, -46/+7If you already have OO installed, you should uninstall OO and install MS Office.
- pentium4borg, on 10/12/2007, -13/+35If you have MS Office installed, you should uninstall MS Office and install OOo.
- JimV, on 10/12/2007, -17/+14No, you should leave MS Office installed, because it's a superior product, and you already paid for it. If you didn't have it, and didn't want to pay for it, then OpenOffice is a decent substitute.
- Malachai, on 10/12/2007, -1/+3To answer your question, because no one else seemed to want to, no.
- o0joshua0o, on 10/12/2007, -1/+15Noob question: Is this as good as Microsoft Office?
- noddyxoi, on 10/12/2007, -1/+42Try. It's Free. Get's the job done for me.
- MonkeyMCSE, on 10/12/2007, -1/+28it all depends on your usage of Office of course. If you do only the basics, then OOo would fit your needs perfectly, not to mention your budget. If you are an Office power user who uses alot of the add-ins for MSO, then probably not for you. I would recommend you at least give it a shot and see if it fits your needs. You never know, it could end up saving you money in the long run.
In the end,
Use what works best and suits your needs the best, but don't just do what everyone else does and say "it sucks"("it" being whatever software spoken of ) without ever giving it a try. - kunalthakar, on 10/12/2007, -1/+9For most people it is. If you don't use fancy features of MS office that is. Actually, for my use of office suite, the google office suite fits me perfectly ( I need portability more than features while editing documents)
- drmangrum, on 10/12/2007, -2/+13@noddyxoi
Open Office is close to being a complete replacement for the MS Office suite. As Java gains refinement and the OpenOffice code uses that refinement, it only gets better. Keep in mind that you don't have to deal with any of the Office macro viruses that get passed around. - schwit, on 10/12/2007, -12/+9I've been using OO2.1 exclusively(w/Kubuntu edgy) for the past month. Prior to that I used and supported MS Office since 4.3 and WordPerfect before that. I hate to say it, but the more I use OO the less I like it. It lacks polish and there's no migration process for MS Office users. It's also feature poor compared to competitive Office suites from the 1990s.
If the market share situations were reversed Microsoft would have free tools available to make the transition as painless as possible. They did it for WordPerfect and Lotus123, and they do it for all markets they want to own.
What would be immensely helpful is a converter for MS Office config files such as normal.dot. Import all of my templates, styles, toolbars, the menubar and keyboard configurations. I want OO to look and act similar to MS Office. Next is the OO interface. It's unintuitive, inconsistent and hard on the eyes. It reminds me of the metaphor about a camel being a horse designed by committee.
I want OpenOffice to work, I really do. I would prefer not to give Microsoft any of my money, but I value my sanity and my time even more, and OO is currently an exercise in frustration. - ubuwalker31, on 10/12/2007, -1/+7@o0joshua0o:
Quick Answer: Yes.
I interact with dozens of different businesses who all use Microsoft Office, and have no trouble viewing or editing their .doc files. Powerpoint and Excel are hit or miss though. - simondotcalvin, on 10/12/2007, -9/+23@schwit
Dear, OOo Community,
I want you to cater to my every whim. Microsoft has lulled me into a state of near catatonia and I cannot be bothered to set any defaults or drag a couple of toollbars to where I like them. Please send me exactly what I want on a silver platter or you know what I'll do? I'll write a really long, whiny post on digg.com, that's what! Thanks bunches! - JimV, on 10/12/2007, -12/+5@simondotcalvin
OMG. That was the most dumbass statement I've ever read on Digg. You're making fun of Microsoft for catering to it's customers, and you're insinuating that OpenOffice should ignore it's users, and the users should just learn to like it... I'm hoping that OpenOffice does not follow your line of thinking about it's customers. It's very...BestBuy-ish.
My friend, do not open a business, you will fail. I'm just trying to warn you in advance here. - straxus, on 10/12/2007, -2/+11"You're making fun of Microsoft for catering to it's customers, and you're insinuating that OpenOffice should ignore it's users, and the users should just learn to like it..."
That's not what he's saying at all. Microsoft doesn't cater to anyone's whims as to where toolbars go, they mandate it, and people eventually accept and get used to it. (Just look at Office 2007) He's saying that when OOo comes along with a slightly different default toolbar arrangement, the same people throw a hissy fit rather than change the default to something they find more pleasing. But they'll still upgrade from Office 2003 to Office 2007 while thinking to themselves, "This is how it's going to be, so I better learn how to use it". - newevilmind, on 10/12/2007, -1/+8it's better.
and free! - VeganG, on 10/12/2007, -6/+3It's better. More features, and more customization options.
The only downside is that 99% of the world uses .doc and .xls and you can't be 100% sure that what you're viewing looks as it was intended to look. If you're using it for a business where that's vital, it's not worth the risk. - Ratteler, on 10/12/2007, -1/+3@ Swhitz
I want you to switch so bad that I'm running to your house with a roll of toilet paper to wipe your ass. NOT!
I've switched close to 100 people to OpenOffice. The only complaint I ever got was... "They can't read my file." Once I talk them through saving it as a .doc, or.xls, they're happy and NONE of them even KNEW the difference.
I still haven't heard a feature for feature listing of what OO can't do? - diggduggjoe, on 10/12/2007, -1/+5I just loaded 2 systems with it for a client. They had a couple of P4s with Win98 and were in need of an office package. I told them before spending all the cash to try OO. I set the defaults to .doc and .xls to match their other PCs. I do not think they will have much trouble. I told them is it a great place to start testing OO for soon upgrade time will come around and a complete upgrade of MS Office on 10 PCs will be a couple thousand bucks. If, they complain then they are free to pay the MS ransom, but if the like it they are FREE!
- tech42er, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2I'd say. I use OOo even though I could "pirate" Office because OOo is open source, it's Sun and it works in Feisty, too.
- oobuntu, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1Am I just unlucky in the fact that MS office docs don't format nicely in OOo 2.1 , or are the example docs that other people try just simple shopping lists?
How are people's experiences with real world corporate docs made in MS office, viewed and edited in OpenOffice ?
(there's enough problems between saving in office 2k3 and viewing in office xp)
- knoit911, on 10/12/2007, -1/+5i love Open Office, and have it installed on a number of computers at my house. the problem with this article is that it is in the linux/unix category, not software.
- DigDuality, on 10/12/2007, -0/+21Speed Up Openoffice:
Under the OpenOffice.org heading, select Memory
Now change these settings:
Undo:
Number of steps = 25
Graphics Cache
Use for OpenOffice.org = 30 MB
Memory per Object = 2.0 MB
Remove from memory after 00:05 hh:mm
Cache for inserted Objects
Number of Object = 15
OpenOffice.org Quickstarter (check this box)
http://element14.wordpress.com/2006/11/01/speed-up-start-time-for-openofficeorg/
For more MS compatibility on Windows, get Novell's version if you're not a open source fanatic:
http://download.novell.com/Download?buildid=90Jv0byQWIU~
And for those who have to or will stick with MS Office, at least get the ODF converter plugin for MS Office:
http://download.novell.com/SummaryFree.jsp?buildid=ESrjfdE4U58~- Stonekeeper, on 10/12/2007, -1/+3How well does that plugin work?
- hockeysmurf, on 10/12/2007, -0/+32Open Office rules! There is only one extra feature that would be awesome to have: "Firefox style tabs" for working with multiple documents.
- JaYBrooks, on 10/12/2007, -6/+9Its Open.. Why don't you write it?
- DigDuality, on 10/12/2007, -1/+3If you don't need the compatibility with ms office all that much,
i suggest taking a look at Koffice workspaces. (especially if you like Kontact)
Workspace acts as a container for Kword, Kcalc, Krita, Kexi, and the rest of the koffice applications.
Not only do you have tabs for say.. just your kword files, but you can for all your office files. If Koffice could equal the functionality of openoffice on top of their heavy integreation with each other and it's integration with konqueror and it's tabulated approach.. it would be more of a threat to ms office than open office will ever be. It has a low memory footprint. it's great. They just need to really work on functionality and compatibility.
it'd be nice to see more collaboration between the kword team and the kmail team as well. - EvilGnomeAndy, on 10/12/2007, -0/+5Yeah, I wish almost everything had tabs -- word processors and file managers specifically come to mind. There are plenty of plain text editors that work with tabs, but I don't know about word processors. I know PCManFM (a file manager) does it, but it's not as nice overall as Nautilus or Thunar, and I don't think it's under active development.
- tech42er, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3I'd love to write it, but I can barely write a temperature converter in C and python. So you see how great a programmer I am :(
- SoloMalee, on 10/12/2007, -3/+8I changed to OO from MS Office a year ago. Sure, it takes some adjustment, but, the feeling of not being tied to Microsoft is fantastic. In my opinion moving to Linux is a non starter, but OO is a good first step that paves the way for when Linux is truly mature (And yes I have looked at Ubuntu).
- slowmotiony, on 10/12/2007, -15/+2"Yeah, I don't have to see the MS logo anymore! I'm finally a free person!"
Idiot. - Ratteler, on 10/12/2007, -2/+11@slowmotiony
"Idiot."
We know your an idiot, you didn't have to sign the comment. - strabes, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3@slowmotiony: Why are you so angry? geez calm down.
- tech42er, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1Glad you like it :) I use it on Window and Linux.
- slowmotiony, on 10/12/2007, -15/+2"Yeah, I don't have to see the MS logo anymore! I'm finally a free person!"
- febryle, on 10/12/2007, -0/+7Is there a OS X Universal version yet?
- rarkai, on 10/12/2007, -0/+4NeoOffice.org
- stalefries, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3Have a look at Neooffice.
http://www.neooffice.org/neojava/en/index.php - rasterbator, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2Been using NeoOffice for quite some time now. I still cannot believe that X11 is required for OpenOffice for OS X. WTF OOO?
- BriscoCounty, on 10/12/2007, -1/+10Disable Java support under tools/options, and cut your load times by half.
- Wootery, on 10/12/2007, -1/+2The downside of compiling a program every time it's run...
I don't see why Sun thinks it's a good idea to have HotSpot forget on shut-down all the machine code it's produced - why not have a cache on the hard-drive for machine-code generated from bytecode, and avoid the obviously inefficient recompile-every-time-it's-run setup they have now.
- Wootery, on 10/12/2007, -1/+2The downside of compiling a program every time it's run...
- sputza, on 10/12/2007, -3/+5I use OO on my Ubuntu install but I use MS Office 2007 at work, MS Office is better looking but they do almost the same stuff. I love them both.
- Stonekeeper, on 10/12/2007, -1/+5Dugg simply for the fact that the release statement looks like it was typed on a typewriter.
- sid0, on 10/12/2007, -0/+4It's not uncommon. It's MONOSPACE. Code view. Something like what you get in a text editor. Right-click the page and view source. That's what you'll probably see.
- CanadianGuy, on 10/12/2007, -3/+15Why would anyone run MS Office with this around, $600 vs. $0 hmmm now let me think.
- sid0, on 10/12/2007, -15/+71. There's a version of Office for $150, the Home and Student edition. It includes Word, Excel, PowerPoint and OneNote. Quite sufficient for a home user, and quite inexpensive, too.
2. Office 07 kicks OOo's arse right, left and centre. - JimV, on 10/12/2007, -7/+11I can get a copy of Office for $70 at my university book store.
By the way, there's nothing wrong with supporting people who write good software and programs that you use. And yes, I think Microsoft delivers superior products. - Ratteler, on 10/12/2007, -1/+8"By the way, there's nothing wrong with supporting people who write good software and programs that you use."
That's why I've donated almost $100 to the OO team.
There is also nothing wrong with showing people there is an option that offers 95 to 98% of the functionality they were going to pay for, for free. - Jugalator, on 10/12/2007, -0/+5"Why would anyone run MS Office with this around, $600 vs. $0 hmmm now let me think."
Because your company has a MS partnership and it costs you nothing personally to keep installed on your computer? Or maybe because people pirate the Enterprise edition of 2007 that doesn't even require activation. Illegal, sure, bringing MS Office users -- definitely.
- sid0, on 10/12/2007, -15/+71. There's a version of Office for $150, the Home and Student edition. It includes Word, Excel, PowerPoint and OneNote. Quite sufficient for a home user, and quite inexpensive, too.
- FearlessFreep, on 10/12/2007, -0/+4How closely does NeoOffice follow OpenOffice in the release timing?
- suacy, on 10/12/2007, -0/+5Openoffice 2.1 was released in December, Neooffice 2.1 was just made available.
- pkulak, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3That's not a bad turnaround at all. Can't wait for a new Neo!
- edmicman, on 10/12/2007, -1/+12I just wish they'd call it simply OpenOffice rather than OpenOffice.org for the product name. openoffice.org is the damn website address, not a product name. "OOo" looks ***** stupid. It would just be more professional to drop the ".org" from the name and have it simply be "OpenOffice".
- rofflebuster, on 10/12/2007, -0/+9I think it would be nice to drop the .org as well, but the project's FAQ page states
"The trademark for "OpenOffice" belongs to someone else. Therefore we must use "OpenOffice.org" when referring to this open source project and its software."
so it's not going to happen anytime soon.
- rofflebuster, on 10/12/2007, -0/+9I think it would be nice to drop the .org as well, but the project's FAQ page states
- itsClos, on 10/12/2007, -0/+6I've been on OO for like 2 or 3 years now even though I could easily borrow my brothers pirated version of MS Office. It does everything and more than what I need it to, which is usually things like creating resumes or time sheets using the spreadsheet. But then again I've even been using Google Doc's for that when I want to share stuff. PERSONALLY I don't see why people still pay for MS Office anymore but I guess it's got a few propriety things that OO might not be doing right now, I rather create a document that everybody can view though instead. All they need now is to make Draw a little better cause its currently not comparable with Visio, unless I'm missing something.
Also I heard Google and Novell were linking up to get Google Docs and Open/StarOffice working better together, like being able to take advantage of all the Google Doc features like Collaborate and Share right from OO. Forget where I read it, I'll Digg it if I find it again though, would be a good look.- MrSkrilla, on 10/12/2007, -7/+4OO is NOT as good as MS office, no matter what people say. I use open office because I run linux, but formatting is ***** up in OO, it crashes way more than MS office, it doesn't seem nearly as polished as MS Office, it is much harder to complete some tasks in OO. I can't think of 1 thing that makes OO better than MS office except that it doesn't cost a ***** load, it is free.
- Ratteler, on 10/12/2007, -2/+5"it crashes way more than MS office," FUD lies.
"it doesn't seem nearly as polished as MS Office" Matter of personal taste. I don't want a bunch of twitching paper clips every time I try to do something. I think OO looks neat clean and professional.
"it is much harder to complete some tasks in OO." Name them. Its only harder if your a M$ drone who can't change their ways. - seuaniu, on 10/12/2007, -0/+5@MrSkrilla:
I'm an Oo.o user and for the most part I agree with you, but here's your "one thing":
Try opening up a 1000 page document in Word. Go to page 754 and try to edit something. While you're waiting for Word to figure out whats going on, get on another compy and do the same in OO. OO handles very large files much better. That's with MSO 2003 - haven't used 07 yet.
Oh, lets make it two things, just for fun. Native PDF export is a godsend if you're sending your files around. Much easier to use than the primopdf printer. - koick, on 10/12/2007, -0/+4@seuaniu:
"While you're waiting for Word to figure out whats going on.."
I think that's it doing an entire spell check starting from the beginning of the document. They really should make that smarter... - seuaniu, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1@kiock
OK, kind of late to reply, but you bring up a good point. I don't *know* what word is doing, but it is doing something and I can't work til its done. Perhaps its a spellcheck, who knows? Either way, very large documents have been a problem with word for a very long time (again, i haven't used MSO 2007).
- astrosmash, on 10/12/2007, -8/+5Hmm. A link to a bloated, wordy press release, instead of a lean bullet-list of changes and new features. Kind of epitomizes the entire OO project.
- Ratteler, on 10/12/2007, -4/+5Hmm. I M$ troll trying any lame excuse to sabotage the rep of an Open Source Project that is eventually going to help bury M$.
If it was so crappy and hard to use, you guys wouldn't be working so hard to put it down. - astrosmash, on 10/12/2007, -3/+4Actually, I prefer neither MS Office nor any MS Office 97 clones like OO. And in fact I do use OO for some things, out of necessity only.
I really wish OO was really good. But it isn't. It's a slow, feature-incomplete clone of Office 97, which, by my watch, is 10 years old now. Software usability has advanced a lot on the last 10 years, but the best OO can muster is Office 97. And even after all this time, it's Word importing and exporting is still flawed.
If there's one thing I've learned from OO over the years is that if you clone a well-known application's UI (in hopes of attracting their users) all it does is accentuate the things your application gets *wrong*, not the things it gets right.
- Ratteler, on 10/12/2007, -4/+5Hmm. I M$ troll trying any lame excuse to sabotage the rep of an Open Source Project that is eventually going to help bury M$.
- MrSkrilla, on 10/12/2007, -3/+2hopefully it is more stable than Oo2.1 ... it crashes all the ***** time for me...
- stalefries, on 10/12/2007, -1/+4Have you made a bug report?
- MadOgre, on 10/12/2007, -1/+3I use OO 2.1 all the time. Never crashes on me. You might want to check your system out for bugs.
- tchuhtchuh, on 10/12/2007, -4/+0Thank you, I will go, will see that there are new
- nrweaver, on 10/12/2007, -2/+1I had neooffice on my mac and it didnt work all to well it was just plain slow so i had to go back to MS office just info for mac users thinking about trying it.
- Doughboy, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2I just updated from 2.1 and it is very noticeably faster loading.
I double-click a word doc or odt now and it is nearly instant.
The biggest increase in speed though is on Linux... it was a pain before, taking at least 10 sec. before would see the splash screen but now is very fast.
Are these observations just me, or does anyone else notice how much faster it loads now?- strabes, on 10/12/2007, -0/+110 secs before the splash? That's ridiculous. My splash loads in less than 1 and writer is up in 2-3 secs.
- juniorross, on 10/12/2007, -3/+2Open Office is very nice, however I wish they would change the logo to something more 2.0
- elguercoterco, on 10/12/2007, -5/+4i enjoy linux - but openoffice or any other word processing software PALES in comparison to Word 2007. Period.
- papatrpt89, on 10/12/2007, -1/+2As a high school student, I use what's available. For basic functions, OO is fine and good. Personally, I have not experienced crashing with it at all. Having older comps at school, (256 RAM, PII or PIII), as well as a really bloated bundle of software kept anything from working at all. Loading MS took around 5 minutes, and another 2 or 3 to load a document. Running OO off a pen drive was faster for me. Now, I just use the Google Office suite, because I tend to work across 6 computers on a given day, and having centralized access is really handy. And thanks to digduality for the OO speeding up link, I'll give it a try. At my house (2.4 Celeron and 256 RAM), running Kubuntu, OO can be slow to load. MS word 2003 loads faster than OO on my windows installation, and I do like it's interface better. I also loved the tabbing idea! I'm sure OO will keep evolving for the better!
- Jugalator, on 10/12/2007, -1/+5I used and enjoyed this instead of Office 2003, but Office 2007 definitely killed it for me. :-/ It's among the largest Office improvements yet, even beyond the UI. But of course, an open source alternative is great to have for so many reasons too.
- BlazeMiskulin, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2@ Ratteler
''"it doesn't seem nearly as polished as MS Office" Matter of personal taste. I don't want a bunch of twitching paper clips every time I try to do something. I think OO looks neat clean and professional.''
I would disagree. I've used OO on both an older Win box and my previous Ubuntu box. In both cases, the UI was a space-hog. MS Office has smaller icons, making for smaller toolbars, and more actual work space. The overall look of the UIs is amateurish and clunky.
''"it is much harder to complete some tasks in OO." Name them. Its only harder if your a M$ drone who can't change their ways.''
Two words: Mail Merge. And I'm not the only one to run into this brick wall. I've seen more than a few professional reviewers bring up the mail merge failure as a deal-breaker. It's what caused me to close OO and go install my old copy of MS Office again.
In addition, there are quite a number of small details which add up to large annoyances. Off the top of my head, the auto-complete function in Calc is rather awkward. It's not a nice simple keystroke (tab) like in MS Office. The syntax for formulae is difficult for an Excel user to get used to, and doing layout in Writer makes Word look like InDesign. I've never even opened Base, so I can't comment on it.
OpenOffice is a very good product for those who are doing basic work in any of the formats. For power-users, however, OO falls quite short of the refinement and features offered by MS Office. I'm confident that, as linux (via Ubuntu) and the open-source movement make headway in garnering a larger market share, the refinement and features of applications such as OpenOffice will catch up to--and possibly exceed--those of MS, Apple, Corell, and other software producers. Right now, however, there are good, solid reasons for people to remain with the established software. - TDR25, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2Great, after downloading it yesterday, now I have to remove it and download the newest version...just great! Beats the hell out of using MS Office though!
- firefusion, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2Wow load times on XP are a lot quicker for me. Thanks for the update OOo team.
I used to be hooked on the Office 2007 beta but when it ran out I switched to OOo and haven't regretted it. I'm a poor student and OOo gives me everything I need for the right price. - donalb, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1I'm writing my Master's thesis in Word in my spare time. I've spent the last few years training the AutoCorrect function to speed up my poor typing, so I have abbreviations for things that regularly come up eg I type "DoE" and I get "Department of Environment, Heritage, and Local Government" etc.
There's still no way to export/import the full Word Autocorrect list (about 4000 total entries) into OO (which btw I really wanted to like/use on my home PC).
So instead I bought Office XP Pro for €25 ($35) under the Microsoft "Home Use Program" from the MS website, since I use it at work!
Tell me that's evil.
Of course I put OOo2.0 on my GF's laptop, and she's perfectly happy with it. - Zafras, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1Does the mac version still suck? It doesn't even install for me. Asks something about X11, which apparently I already have in 10.4.
- jeduan, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1Does this version gets the Galaxy icons or when are they scheduled in the roadmap?
- mendigg, on 10/11/2007, -0/+0I changed to OO from MS Office a year ago. Sure, it takes some adjustment, but, the feeling of not being tied to Microsoft is fantastic. In my opinion moving to Linux is a non starter, but OO is a good first step that paves the way for when Linux is truly mature (And yes I have looked at Ubuntu). You can as to look sites in Russian which mention this theme: http://www.rolid.org http://www.se-ua.com
- mendigg, on 10/11/2007, -0/+0i love Open Office, and have it installed on a number of computers at my house. the problem with this article is that it is in the linux/unix category, not software. You can as to look sites in Russian which mention this theme: http://www.alcogol.kiev.ua http://pivo.in.ua
- turdigg, on 10/11/2007, -1/+0I just wish they'd call it simply OpenOffice rather than OpenOffice http://www.voyage-voyage.info .org for the product name http://www.vip-tour.biz . openoffice.org is the damn website address http://www.viptraveler.info , not a product name http://www.ukrtravel.org . "OOo" looks ***** stupid http://www.megatourism.info . It would just be more professional to drop the ".org" http://www.automig.info from the name and have it simply be "OpenOffice" http://www.autorial.info .
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