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- ptFoe, on 08/28/2008, -5/+124how does someone that writes for Linux insider for 5 years not use Linux
- Noxat, on 08/28/2008, -8/+62Holy ***** a blogger on linuxinsider.com finally uses linux??
And this reads like every other "Hey you should use Linux, god damnit!" post I've ever seen: "Hey you know every application you're used to in Windows/OSX/OS2/DOS/whatever? ***** that *****, use this other program instead its just as good trust me!" - inactive, on 08/28/2008, -1/+36still i don't see how you could even get a job there and not know how to use linux. It seems like that would at least give them some sort of training.
- nesagwa, on 08/28/2008, -0/+30I put black socks on this morning instead of white socks like the most people.
Heres a 500 word article about why.
Of course you care about this. - Julz, on 08/28/2008, -3/+32another Linux user added to the 0.80% market share...
- MaxMWood, on 08/28/2008, -7/+35Im sick of these little Linux stories. Whats next? My dog died so I decided to move to Linux. Top 10 reasons why you should move to Linux. No thanks. I really don't care about Linux, I have used Ubuntu on my other PC and compared to Windows XP its terrible, and you can argue all you want but it really is terrible.
- Ouze, on 08/28/2008, -2/+29linux, better then windows? What a novel new idea, never before discussed on Digg
/yawn - havek23, on 08/28/2008, -2/+26Wow... he writes for a linux magazine and has been using Windows... and DOESNT know how to make a Dell machine boot from a CD? You just have to hold down F12 during the POST and choose "Boot from IDE CD-ROM" or F2 for BIOS and change the boot priority. How can someone so dumb survive Linux?
- belumaves, on 08/28/2008, -3/+27he's an editor. and he's been there for a year.
- commernie, on 08/28/2008, -2/+17FTFA: "...but do you really want to pay Apple to tell you you can only make seven copies of your music?"
It's clear that he only thinks paying for music from Apple is wrong (because of the known restrictions). Nowhere does he imply that paying for music in general is a bad thing. - aftern9ne, on 08/28/2008, -4/+16Why does anybody digg this *****. I don't care if you use Linux.
- xxl3w, on 08/28/2008, -1/+9man, sounds like he's spending the majority of his time trying to get his hardware/software working, other than using a computer to be productive +1 to linux! YAY! luckily he's an editor of linux insider, so he doesn't have to be productive, he just has rub the fanboys' tummies.
- Orsenfelt, on 08/28/2008, -2/+10Dugg up. Unless you are really into it, It sucks. Maybe it is because it's different from Windows, I really don't care... It feels broken, Until it doesn't feel broken it will never get the usership it wants.
Infact, It comes down to 1 single thing. If I ever have to see a command line in an operating system, In this day and age, It's not finished. - norman619, on 08/28/2008, -2/+9So the guy is using an OS that suits his needs. Not to mention he works for a Linux site. I use Windows because it suits MY needs. My website developer buddy uses OSX because it suits his needs. I think it's a safe bet people in general use the OS that does what they need it to do. Fanboyism is annoying.
Maybe I should write an article about how I made the switch from crunchy to smooth peanut butter? - Mr.Gone, on 08/28/2008, -0/+7I bet his farts smell amazing!
- digitalpencil, on 08/28/2008, -0/+7well i'm glad to see some honesty from him..
as a Linux user (amongst other OSs) it is kind of a pain in many respects. I like it but i'm the kind of guy who puts radios in toasters.. it's fun to tinker with, many things work perfectly, others require workarounds, many of which are arduous and far from obvious.
but whatever, use what you want. if you like win2K, more power to you, if you're a linux-nut - go to town, if you're a mac-lover - love your shiny-box-of-love... just quit trying to convert each other to your respective platform!
honestly, diggers are worse than evangelical Christians with a constant barrage of 'use this - you won't regret it' or '(x) is ***** and you're a retard of immeasurable stature for even considering letting it into your life'.
grow up, get laid and quit bitchin'
/rant - djgreedo, on 08/28/2008, -2/+8Well now it's a 0.800000000000000001 market share! Suck it, Micro$haft Windoze!
Why do these lame 'articles' get on the main Digg page so much? It's quite sad that this community would rather read about some idiot trying to be cool by not using Windows than they do about the important things in the world. - mohsenxp, on 08/28/2008, -0/+6Strangely, I do. I really do.
- Czechxican, on 08/28/2008, -1/+7What is this Linux? It's so new and fresh. Completely novel idea!
- stealthc, on 08/28/2008, -3/+9Linux is the dungeon crawler of operating systems. Every single task has a puzzle to solve before you can move on.
- nickert0n, on 08/28/2008, -3/+9LOL
"One Less Window's User" - And the entire article is about stating what you cant do in Linux, or how hard it is to do mundane tasks.
Ba Ba Ba Burried - sandiegodude, on 08/28/2008, -3/+9Eh, I do my day to day work from my Ubuntu 8 machine at work (on it right now in fact). It was my first real plunge into Linux as a workhorse. I've worked on LInux/Unix servers regularly for the past 10 years, so I'm not CLI shy or anything, just never really bothered. I have to say, it has its definite bonuses as well as drawbacks. BTW, if you really want itunes on Linux, you can use Wine, along with a handful of other windows only apps.
My honest opinion? As a knowledgeable systems admin I absolutely love Ubuntu, it does everything I need it to do with some tweaking. It's not 100% perfect and I've done a lot to get it just the way I want it, but it serves my purposes here at work just as well as my previous Win32 box did. I don't think Ubuntu is quite the "every man's" OS yet however, as there is still a learning curve that your average user who just wants ease of use out of the box (yer gettin' a mac dude) won't be able to put up with. It's pretty damn close, I'm happy to report, but not quite there yet.
... Of course, that's the beauty of open source OS. It will get there, and its evolution sure as hell is faster than closed source OS's. - 9bpm9, on 08/28/2008, -5/+10And someone who sure as hell didn't want a Mac.
- Cyhwuhx, on 08/28/2008, -17/+22.::: The iTunes comment is where I stopped reading. It's one thing that there is no solution for it, it's quite another to imply that willingly paying for music (DRM'ed or not) is bad.
Sticking your head into the sand still leaves your body exposed. - seltaeb4, on 08/28/2008, -0/+5You get what you pay for. That's why Linux is free.
- djgreedo, on 08/28/2008, -2/+7But they are using Linux to be 'different', and they want to be different to be noticed. It's a self-fulfilling deal.
- cbeach, on 08/28/2008, -3/+8PC user has been editor of a Linux journal for a year? Unlikely.
Buried. - bdbr, on 08/28/2008, -2/+7He never said anything about purchasing from other sources. The only thing that was implied was that music purchased from the iTunes store would be restricted, and for the most part, that is still true (very little of it is iTunes Plus).
- Balanced, on 08/28/2008, -1/+5With iTunes (And this is much the same for Amazon's service) you're paying Apple to provide the infrastructure and service features (I.E. making iTunes user friendly) as well as hosting. THey pass on much of the money to the label, who provides some sort of service (This part, I'll admit, is a bit sketchy), who then passes on a little to the artists.
- stealthc, on 08/28/2008, -2/+6Also no iTunes, no support for popular media codecs unless you commit copyright infringement, unpredictable hardware support, no competent video editor, scarce documentation, and software packages that break each other. But you do get to have that feeling that you've stuck it to the man by using an unpopular desktop OS.
- djgreedo, on 08/28/2008, -2/+6It is funny to read those '10 reasons' lists. There are thousands of reasons people use computers and the Linuxtards can't even put together a list of 10 that isn't full of lies, exaggerations, and FUD.
- inactive, on 08/28/2008, -0/+4Another Linux switcher article....yay.
Heres the deal: Linux works just fine when you get it setup, some distros are less painful than others. You can do almost everything that is done in Windows except game (properly) and use MS office products (a major drawback for some).
The big thing is try different OSes and see which one serves you best. - mynameistux, on 08/28/2008, -2/+6The main reason viruses don't effectively work in linux, is you don't run as root user, and your applications don't run as root user, they only have the rights they need to do their job. This means that if you try and, say format your harddrive, you will be asked for your password. A bit of a pain, if you wanted to format your harddrive, but worth it, considering that viruses just might work properly for linux, if it didn't say "you can't do that, I'm gonna need to see some ID."
- murk, on 08/28/2008, -0/+4you are about to format your harddrive. cancel or allow?
- mohsenxp, on 08/28/2008, -2/+6"You can do almost everything except...[goes on to list two major things that people want an OS to do]".
- Culyt, on 08/28/2008, -0/+4Actually its up to %1.91: http://www.w3counter.com/globalstats.php
And for a tech user centric site its at %3.9, http://www.w3schools.com/browsers/browsers_os.asp
Tech user specific stats are important as we are the ones more likely to be responsible for large datacenters and requiring drivers for hardware, purchasing new CPUs etc, encouraging the use of specific technologies and such. - DigeratiMVP, on 08/28/2008, -1/+4He fails to do his homework too. There is a pretty good backup plan called Time Vault that he could use as a backup plan that is scheduled. http://www.howtoforge.com/snapshot-backups-with-ti ...
Also they make a picasa for linux so no need for wine.
http://picasa.google.com/linux/
You would think someone from Linux Insider would know these things.
Have a nice day!
http://www.userbytes.com
http://www.seizethepage.com - Krissam, on 08/28/2008, -0/+3maybe because WE think that using open source IS IMPORTANT if more people were willing to sacrifice 5 hours of their lives to install linux and play around with it a bit, maybe microsoft wouldn't be able to enforce every single thing they want (Not saying they're doing it, just saying they could).
Also a lot of peoples opinions about linux ages back from back in the days where they heard about some geek spending 50 hours and failing in getting his sound drivers working, just typing commands in a black window with green text.
I've switched to linux on my laptop (My pc is my gaming platform so it need directx, you know what was the only thing not working around 15 minutes after putting in the disc? the Wifi, you know how long it took me to get it working as a complete linux noob? around 1 google search and i got a guide clearly describing all the 10 commands i need to put into the console, and now it works flawlessly. - inactive, on 08/28/2008, -0/+3Oh ya! Right there! Whoa! Too low dude, not cool.
- diggopolous, on 08/28/2008, -0/+3I really wish digg would seperate the unix/linux categories into their own seperate category.
I am a unix user and although I use linux and like linux I wish I could use a filter to filter out linux because as a lot of people commented in this post and elsewhere 90% of Linux posts here
come down to just cheerleading Linux. So, I have to wade through and put up with so many cheerleading articles just to chance that I come across an interesting unix or linux submission. - mohsenxp, on 08/28/2008, -1/+4Da da da dugg you the ***** up. +1
- Rizzler, on 08/28/2008, -0/+3Agreed and dugg, articles like these are becoming cliche as far as I'm concerned.
- SpamBuntu, on 08/28/2008, -0/+3don't forget about things like SELinux and AppArmor. great stuff.
also those techniques at deeper levels like the memory address randomizer, ... - rolf, on 08/28/2008, -0/+3Also services don't run as root either, nor even as your account, but they tend to have their own limited accounts in linux.
In Windows, even when running a limited account, there's a bunch of services running with admin level access - once those get compromised... - djgreedo, on 08/28/2008, -4/+7I will shut up and go back to playing Crysis. Want to join me on Windows Live for a game?
- violentvinyl, on 08/28/2008, -0/+2The OS is just a workbench you keep your tools on. Each one only holds certain types of tools. Like anyone who uses tools, you want the best ones for the job because they make you more productive. You pick your toolbench based on the tools you're going to use, it's as simple as that. Some people will need more than one toolbench, and some won't need all the features that a particular toolbench offers. Others will want a well designed, impressive looking toolbench, while others prefer a more utilitarian, minimalist one. As long as these OSes are developed and supported by different communities, they will not be "one size fits all", and nor should they be. Competition among them is healthy, and if one starts to rise above the other in market share, the others will quickly adapt. This is a good thing. It's why computers work, and will CONTINUE to work.
- Her3t1k, on 08/28/2008, -0/+2I tried using nothing but Linux. As a pc gamer it didn't work for me. But for everyone else I see no issues. (unless you rely on retail software for which there is no open source counterpart.) I still use Linux only on my laptop and I prefer it greatly to windows. I am of the opinion that if every retail software manufacturer made a Linux version of their program the majority would choose Linux. I think the biggest complaint is that it's hard, and it's not hard so much as it is different imo.
- Culyt, on 08/28/2008, -1/+3If you can't access a decent command line then something is wrong.
I agree that the CLI shouldn't be required for day to day tasks, but there is just some stuff that is impossible to do from a GUI and a lot of other stuff that is possible but much less efficient or very inflexible.
Also a normal Ubuntu install shouldn't need the command prompt at all now days, you only get stuck with it when something goes wrong such as video card drivers screwing up which happens much less often. - djgreedo, on 08/28/2008, -1/+3It was about 500 words too long.
- inactive, on 08/28/2008, -0/+2so this guy has a ton of problems with Ubuntu, can't use ITunes and dumps Windows.
yay, who cares...
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