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- schestowitz, on 10/10/2007, -6/+35Excellent! H-P has been dropping hints for months now. If SJVN says so, it's probably true. Dell, H-P, Acer, Lenovo, Toshiba, Epson...
2007 is the year when Linux was made available preinstalled from major OEMs. Write this down. :-) - cptl, on 10/10/2007, -3/+24Dugg for being a good article, and for not using CONFIRMED when the author is just speculating.
- inactive, on 10/10/2007, -15/+35Computers not infected with Windows, this is excellent news. Nobody should be forced to buy low quality software from an abusive software dictatorship.
- Youssif, on 10/10/2007, -0/+18Linux will get better support in the drivers from both sites, Kernel and OEMs now..it's happening.
Adobe, when you gonna figure it out and join ? - marx2k, on 10/10/2007, -1/+15Have you gone shopping for a PC with any PC manufacturers lately (besides Dell?) Good luck finding anything without Windows (your parents are not going to build barebones PCs)
- inactive, on 10/10/2007, -3/+17wow you guys are late. in India there are 5 main stream PC companies that sell computers with Linux pre-loaded.
- sexualaj, on 10/10/2007, -1/+15This is the year of the Penguin.
That stole Geeks hearts so many years ago.
♥ - afruff23, on 10/10/2007, -0/+12I love HP laptops with the built-in remote. I hope that linux drivers are written for it. No other laptop I know of has a remote that can be stored like HP's.
- inactive, on 10/10/2007, -2/+14Lookin' good! Crossing my fingers that they are out before the next major shopping season.
- tnoy, on 10/10/2007, -0/+10I actually anticipate Linux getting a huge surge in the next couple years from large amounts of OEM support laying the groundwork for it to reach Apple's level. I see Linux being a bigger threat to Apple than I do see it being a thread to Microsoft.
- NTolerance, on 10/10/2007, -0/+10My dv6000t has that remote. HP was very smart in making the remote send standard keyboard events. As a result, the remote works fine in Linux. No drivers necessary.
- DocHoliday22, on 10/10/2007, -0/+8The best part about this is that we no longer have to endure the format-install Linux cycle with new PC/Laptops that come with Windows pre-installed. On top of this, when we get a PC back from repair, it'll also have all the Linux stuff installed and ready to go.
- zephyrxero, on 10/10/2007, -1/+9It would only make sense... HP's always been a fairly big supporter of Linux on the server and open source in general.
- Spr0k3t, on 10/10/2007, -0/+7But you still bought a Mac? Sorry, had to poke.
- adderx99, on 10/10/2007, -0/+7ive been eyeing an HP laptop for a few months...maybe it might be worth it to wait a few more....
cross your fingers for native linux wifi drivers. - ShiverMeBoner, on 10/10/2007, -0/+7It's not just price point. It's also the fact that I won't have to pay for Vista when I'm just going to wipe it off and install Linux anyway. By purchasing a preconfigured Linux computer, I'm not tallied as just another Vista sale. I'm also getting official support for the hardware I bought.
Oh, and I'm speaking with my dollars and letting the industry know that people DO want choice. - rejoined, on 10/10/2007, -3/+9Don't order me.
- inkubux, on 10/10/2007, -0/+6Next ... please Toshiba and their laptop....
- mbthompson, on 10/10/2007, -1/+6I agree completely. I love how Steve Jobs says Apple is a software company and then turns around and sticks his head in the sand when it comes to licensing OS X.
- lengau, on 10/10/2007, -1/+6Adobe will figure it out the day before Duke Nukem Forever is released. Valve? The day after...
Sad as it is, Adobe think that "that loonix thing" is just a fad... - cantormath, on 10/10/2007, -2/+7Dell should always be remembered as the first company to take this step and start this trend for us.......Thank you Dell....
- teknomunk, on 10/10/2007, -0/+5But there is a chance they will now, whereas before there wasn't.
- Spr0k3t, on 10/10/2007, -0/+5When using Darwin, it's a freakin nightmare working with drivers. Mac users know this and tend to avoid the comments about it. I like OSX and all, but I'd still install Linux on a Mac system.
- sloppychris, on 10/10/2007, -0/+5Whats cool for me is I've been wanting a laptop, and I'd be cool with a Dell but I get pretty good prices at Best Buy through my work. Hopefully now I can get my good pice on an HP laptop with the 'nix and my cheap work price.
- inactive, on 10/10/2007, -0/+5I think, salesmen that actually have a clue are few and far between.
- lispy, on 10/10/2007, -0/+4Actually they should stress the point that all applications are included. Don't use the word free, it sounds cheapish. But all Officesoftware and Graphics and DTP Programs are "included" sounds like a bargain. This is one major benefit over Vista: It's usable from day 1. And if you want something that missing it's available free forever. No Virusrenewal contracts, no adware, no expensive licensin, no pirating old versions. It's just there. This is huge! Make it heard!
- EdLesMann, on 10/10/2007, -0/+4I know that this probably won't mean much in the sea of diggers, but I do have a friend who is working in the group at HP for the move to support Linux (she is low on the totem pole but still she has a bit of influence in that she knows the decision makers). Anyway, apparently they have been mulling this over for several months now. They have been worried that the Linux buyers will be minimal and they will have spent thousands for nothing. They have been watching the success of Dell and that is been a big factor in decisions as of late. She didn't have a date that they were going for right now (that she was aware of).
One point that I pleaded with her on, is to take my message back to her bosses. Companies tend not to listen to the crowd and they pay even less attention to the majority. Therefore, I vote with my wallet. I am not a fan of Dell, but their move to Linux meant I bought a Dell. I have supported HP for about 10 years now, and I moved a primary system to Dell because of their Linux support and am looking to move another. I will buy their Linux systems and place my vote with my money. I know they listen to that.
For anyone else here who may work for HP, Give Me A Reason To Switch Back! - arjie, on 10/10/2007, -0/+4I second that. I have a HP laptop now, and a friend does too. Both run Ubuntu perfectly, and Out Of the Box™ I'm sure other distros won't be any different.
- hatch151990, on 10/10/2007, -1/+4Actually the HP remote already works in Linux without any drivers, i think its because the keys on the remote are hardware bound to regular keyboard keys so no software is necessary for most of the buttons, however im not sure if the shortcut keys work or not but i am sure the media keys, the arrows keys and the numbers keys work.
- MeneerR, on 10/10/2007, -0/+3In my street here in Utrecht, Netherlands, there is a second-hand PC shop that sells Laptops and Desktops with Ubuntu pre-installed.
They have an ubuntu PC on display on the counter ready to try out. They seem to be making money from it as well. - sexylee, on 10/10/2007, -3/+6M$ is slowly but surely losing its market share.
- betacmag4u, on 10/10/2007, -0/+3Some new Dell's have the remote....
- saturn5, on 10/10/2007, -0/+3Dell just needed to focus attention away from burning laptops, faulty motherboard lawsuits, terrible support, and falling market share. HP doesn't need to do that.
- savaged, on 10/10/2007, -1/+4Let's hope HP (or another large HW vendor) realises there's a HUGE market for a Linux PC outside the US. I still can't believe that there's no news on when the rest of the world (or at least Europe - being selfish) will get Dell Linux. Perhaps HP will be remembered as the first company to take the Linux PC worldwide!
- khyberkitsune, on 10/10/2007, -1/+4The dv9000 models are great. As a technician that repairs these laptops, let me warn you of two things:
1. Watch those clamshell hinges - the right side will usually break first
2. always plug the power adapter into the laptop before plugging it into the wall. Doing the reverse may accidentally weld the jack and power connector together, then you'll have to send the laptop in for repair
Cheers! - MeneerR, on 10/10/2007, -0/+2Good call. 99% of the users don't choose an operating system. And those that do choose, choose between linux and os X. OS X as being expensive and completely vendor-locked. They would love a cheap alternative. The problem with beating OS X is just that most users can forgive a dictator that treats them nicely. I.E. the vendor-lock of Apple doesn't mean you are forced to use ***** software and hardware from the same company; it means you are forced to use great software and hardware from the same company.
Still, I don't think the Linux desktop has to be better than OS X. Almost as good as OS X will already crush Apple. - felyduw, on 10/10/2007, -0/+2I'm actually excited not only for now being able to buy a laptop without windows installed but for all the new support 3rd parties will provide to linux.
- mbthompson, on 10/10/2007, -2/+4I know this won't affect price point which is probably what you're going after, but all of HP's laptops as of right now will work perfectly with Ubuntu, no modifications necessary. I think that was a smooth move by HP to use cross compatible components.
- SanjoEel, on 10/10/2007, -0/+2Some just don't get it.
- jeremymccurdy, on 10/10/2007, -0/+2You must not have built a computer before, once you have the parts and the software ready it only takes a couple hours to have the whole thing up and running, maybe three hours depending on OS installation time.
- BHSPitMonkey, on 10/10/2007, -0/+2STOP. POSTING. OPINION. AS. NEWS.
- mooseboy, on 10/10/2007, -0/+2This is entirely plausible. HP has been using linux internally for years and even has entire divisions dedicated to furthering it through a variety of means. This would be a logical step for them.
- keyboardashtray, on 10/10/2007, -2/+4I don't think you're qualified as the expert on the home user, either, if you think the bloated UI of Vista is a big sell to the average Joe. I think Joe Avg. User would take simplified efficient interfaces over glitz and glam (and slop) given the choice. And I think even the most simple users know how to change a wallpaper.
- evilregis, on 10/10/2007, -2/+4I'm on a DV9000 running Ubuntu 7.04. No dual-boot. Just Ubunutu and it Just Worked. The touch-sensitive volume controls, the built-in webcam, wireless, sd reader, nVidia... I've not run into any problems... yet.
- mbthompson, on 10/10/2007, -1/+3Excellent comments guys, I actually feel smarter for having read them.
- lengau, on 10/10/2007, -0/+1Yes, but they're doing that so that they can say "Well everyone has Flash player! Even those Linux guys!" so they can sell more copies of Flash, so more people will use Flash. But note that they haven't built any of their commercial software for Linux.
- DrawingTheSun, on 10/10/2007, -0/+1Yea, we know, that's what he just said.
- noamsml, on 10/10/2007, -1/+2Preface it with "Opinion:" and I might digg it.
- mbthompson, on 10/10/2007, -0/+1The Intel PRO/Wireless 3945ABG chipset works with Ubuntu out of the box. Not sure what chipset you are using (depending on when you got your laptop) but HP has gone completely Intel from what I've seen.
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