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New KDE4 Oxygen screenshots (not mock-ups)

pinheiro-kde.blogspot.com — "This is not one more of my rather useless mocks." Nuno Pinheiro, the man responsible for kde4 artwork is posting new screenshots of oxygen style and calling for bug reporting on the lastest code.

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  • polyGone, on 10/17/2007, -24/+2That was a tease!
    Will they be making emerald themes with oxygen? or will it be Metacity, only?
    • polyGone, on 10/16/2007, -2/+21OK, I am an idiot......I am now realizing that that is the WM for Gnome. Just kill me.
      • Nerevar, on 10/16/2007, -8/+2It's KDE, a completely different desktop environment.
  • Dankoozy, on 10/17/2007, -54/+2The K in KDE stands for Krap!

    the screenshot doesn't look half bad though, at least not for a default
    • DarkStalker, on 10/17/2007, -1/+29I guess the K in "Dankoozy" also stands for Krap then.
      • Dankoozy, on 10/17/2007, -26/+2no it stands for krap. because the k in Dankoozy is lowerKase
      • frazw, on 10/16/2007, -2/+4It was the "D" I was looking at.
    • puelocesar, on 10/16/2007, -0/+15ok, I don't like kde too, but I dislike much more these flame wars between great projects like Gnome and KDE.

      Besides that KDE4 will be GREAT. Principally for people like me that doesn't like kde3 bloat (in terms of UI elements, not performance, which one I think kde is better)
  • puelocesar, on 10/16/2007, -1/+25There are many visual bugs on current Oxygen style, but I think it will totally rock when its finished!
    • sanotaan, on 10/16/2007, -11/+4it'll be as good as any other open-source desktop product--good enough to appease and appeal to fanboys, still not good enough for a competitive market.
    • Refrag, on 10/16/2007, -3/+2It's beige! How can beige rock?!
      • puelocesar, on 10/16/2007, -1/+2LOL :)

        the beige color it's the guy who made the screenshot personal settings I think. It's not the default.
      • Syntaxis, on 10/17/2007, -3/+2Yeah. You could also make it, like, gray, and like.. pastel-blue and like.. anything that is a color. It's like Windows Vista, just not as pretty or well thought out.

        OOPS I didn't make "Micro$oft" look like an evil company. Now I will get Dugg down.

        Face it. It looks like Windows 95, just with rounded corners. No innovation, just plain boring.
        • clos, on 10/17/2007, -0/+2hahhaha your completely right, and microsoft is the czar of innovation
  • Jamieee, on 10/16/2007, -15/+7Niceeee...ishhhh...ewwwww
    • Gangis, on 10/16/2007, -2/+3Agreed. It's boring and uninspiring. Both XP and MacOS X blend in better.
  • chambana, on 10/16/2007, -21/+5So open source does not connote good design.
  • calista17, on 10/17/2007, -11/+26I like it better than vista, I'll tell you that
    • adude, on 10/16/2007, -5/+4I disagree with you. Based on this screenshot, I'm not very impressed. Where is all the innovation? I know that for example, Aero glass is not exactly innovative, nor very useful, but at least it was different and I commend Microsoft for trying something very different with their OS (yeah, yeah, I know Mac went through their transparency phase already). I guess I'm thinking about the Longhorn screenshots that really looked like they were going to defy current conventions. I just feel like nothing big has happened with window managers in a while.... On the other hand, maybe this is just the most efficient way of doing it. And this theme isn't exactly anything to salivate over--it's clean, but pretty dull.
      • potterboy, on 10/16/2007, -0/+1Don't knock it till you try it. Its very nice and fast.
      • potterboy, on 10/17/2007, -1/+1Don't knock it till you try it. Its very nice and fast.
      • iamr00t, on 10/17/2007, -0/+2Try CompizFusion if you want eye candy.
        • adude, on 10/17/2007, -0/+2Aero glass was a bad example because I wasn't talking about just eye candy -- I was just thinking about how window managers in general haven't changed since they were created (ie, Windows 95 had a box with 3 buttons on the top right, and so do Vista, KDE, Gnome, etc.)
          • Fordi, on 10/17/2007, -0/+5Yeah, then came OS-X, with three little buttons ... ON THE LEFT!

            *crowd gasp*
      • Fordi, on 10/16/2007, -0/+1Meh. Screenshots don't convey anything these days. You need screencap videos to get a feel for how a program/desktop will be.
      • IceZZ, on 10/23/2007, -1/+1Vista has transparency, reflections, even 3d window views and real-time video micro-previews. I don't see any of that in this screenshot, much less any KDE interface. In terms of sheer "pretty", Vista has yet to be beat.
        • andycr512, on 10/23/2007, -0/+1Do you realize how laughable your comment is? Linux separates the desktop effects out, and anyone beyond a troll will admit that Compiz Fusion is -much- better looking than Aero. I have all the same effects as vista and many, many more.
  • Jugalator, on 10/17/2007, -2/+26The background on that blog makes it look like my graphics card is about to crap out?
  • MeltedUFO, on 10/16/2007, -23/+5Why are they trying to make it look like OS X?
    • wphj, on 10/16/2007, -17/+6Because OS X is the best looking OS around. I think lots of people agree about that, even if not all of them like it most as an OS.
      • tehpwnrate, on 10/17/2007, -4/+10Vista definitely looks nicer. I think lots of people agree about that, even if none of them like it at all as an OS.
        • Fordi, on 10/17/2007, -2/+2Vista looks like my grandma's house. It's ***** gaudy.
    • ubergeek09, on 10/17/2007, -5/+0It looks a million times better than Apple's lame excuse for a operating system.
      • srg13, on 10/17/2007, -0/+2Are you basing that on the screenshots in this blog? Because if you are, you'd probably get laughed at.

        These screenshots look hideous in my opinion...
  • pumacub, on 10/16/2007, -10/+24Not very nice to look at.
    • mfearby, on 10/16/2007, -0/+10I also see that we're all going to need bigger monitors to fit those bit, fat, chunky, windows on the screen. What is it with those massively overweight toolbars? I sure hope there are some options to slim that down severely. I also hope that details view doesn't highlight the entire row, either (or at least gives you an option to disable that dummy-hand-holding feature)
      • Fordi, on 10/16/2007, -0/+3It's KDE. You can make them 2x2px if you really want to.
    • astrosmash, on 10/16/2007, -4/+6Those toolbar buttons are ridiculous. Welcome to 1998.
    • Gavagai80, on 10/17/2007, -0/+2It all looks disturbingly gnomey to me. Not just dolphin (immitation natalus), also the buttons in kwrite.
  • Dmitrik, on 10/16/2007, -11/+2Any else having some difficulties with these screens?

    Or I really need to update my computer..................
    • masterofshadows, on 10/16/2007, -0/+1they are scaled, clicking on them makes them more visible
  • NoTiG, on 10/17/2007, -6/+15Basically it looks just like the Blended theme in gnome... A theme that doesn't have all of those stupid horizontal lines going across each program window dividing everything up and making it look like crap. Of course total , nice, blended themes in gnome will never work until they alter how the "handlebar" of windows are used and its not just that top 5% that you can click and hold and drag a window by... but rather any space that is not used for any other function like they do intelligently in Macs for instance. Of course when i suggest this to the GTK list i get no replies ever.

    BTW the background on that site is horrid. Ever hear of contrast?
    • TeacherOfHeroes, on 10/16/2007, -0/+3I usually just +Click to move it by clicking anywhere. Easier than having to aim the mouse at an empty part of the window. I agree though, the blended themes look great, and it wouldn't be a bad thing to incorporate that idea into the gtk+
    • vh1`, on 10/16/2007, -0/+6exactly, alt+left click is the standard for window managers to toggle window moving

      also, not all widonws in OSX support initiating a move from empty space
  • schoate09, on 10/16/2007, -20/+6KDE is so fugly.
  • michuk, on 10/17/2007, -0/+30Here is a review of latest KDE 4 revision: http://polishlinux.org/kde/kde-4-preview-rev-72338 ...
    Way better screenshots and not mock-ups either :)
    • puelocesar, on 10/16/2007, -1/+4These screnshots on pinheiro's website are more interesting for me because it has the correction for the window's background color bug. Besides that, i like this new kickoff, the last one was a bit ugly because of the icons of kde3...
    • nandasunu, on 10/15/2007, -0/+1thanks
    • sanotaan, on 10/17/2007, -1/+1Polishlinux.org's screenshots somehow managed to make it look only worse. Lots of small problems dealing with spacing and positioning of GUI elements (and who designed the leave/lock/switch icons? those are meaningless!). They are small problems, and the environment will still get the job done, but don't expect it to seriously compete--or be taken seriously.
  • DiscoLando, on 10/16/2007, -8/+17Does Oxygen imply it was designed by women for women?
  • tyler71, on 10/15/2007, -4/+1suffocating dugg effect
  • CATSCEO, on 10/15/2007, -1/+1Mirror?
  • KezG, on 10/15/2007, -1/+3http://www.duggmirror.com
  • spartin92, on 10/16/2007, -7/+1damn, that is the best looking linux distro that i have ever seen
    • frazw, on 10/16/2007, -1/+5k desktop environment != distro
    • warriorscot, on 10/15/2007, -0/+1It is KDE, it isn't a distro it is something that will run on any distribution of linux.
  • raazman, on 10/15/2007, -0/+1another mirror: http://64.233.167.104/search?q=cache:0SayzMwfYuIJ: ...
  • schestowitz, on 10/16/2007, -4/+1This looks great!
  • darkNiGHTS, on 10/16/2007, -0/+4http://duggmirror.com/linux_unix/New_KDE4_Oxygen_s ...
  • jrwr, on 10/16/2007, -8/+2All i want is a Litestep for linux, FULLY THEMEABLE i mean everything, taskbar, window styles, everything
  • Jfave, on 10/16/2007, -5/+7What exactly is the big deal??
  • byrdgang, on 10/17/2007, -2/+3I wish we had Oxygen for Gnome!
    • ubergeek09, on 10/16/2007, -3/+1Just use KDE it's a million times better.
    • DnasTheGreat, on 10/16/2007, -1/+2When KDE4 comes around and it all is properly packaged, you should just be able to take the Oxygen theme and drop it into GNOME. That's why fd.o made the Icon Naming Spec. The whole point is to make the themes use the same times for icons so that they're desktop-agnostic. GNOME follows the naming spec now (to the best of my knowledge) and KDE4 will as well.
      • ioannusdeverani, on 10/16/2007, -0/+2Urkle. That is only for the icons
  • TomKarpik, on 10/16/2007, -0/+4Why is there so much wasted space? That's one thing that always bothered me about GNOME -- the amount of space waste. Now it looks like KDE is joining that club too.
  • fugazi, on 10/16/2007, -1/+9Are they serious with that taskbar?
  • Nerevar, on 10/16/2007, -1/+3Oxygen looks to be turning out very nicely.
    One thing they need to fix in all this KDE4 previews is the background for the kicker, that blue-black gradient looks terrible.
  • neko, on 10/16/2007, -3/+4Oh, gods. "wdg_canva..."? "wdgimagepr..."? Stop truncating file names damn it! Nautilus does a much better job at displaying files. This just reminds me of explorer.exe.
  • jimegard, on 10/16/2007, -0/+0I like that it looks a little bit more like gnome... Anyone remember enlightenment from back in the day?
    • Gavagai80, on 10/16/2007, -0/+1Enlightenment is still around. E17 is still due to hit the alpha stage any century now.
  • a1lostnomad, on 10/16/2007, -1/+7I don't like it. I hate the single gradient encasing the whole window. OS X can pull it off because the menu bar is outside of the window, but the inline menu bar and addiction to massive button bars and side panes in KDE/Gnome/Windows makes variation in the tones between menus and other blocks necessary.
  • sanotaan, on 10/17/2007, -1/+7all this effort and they still don't know how to space icons/buttons correctly.
    learn the fundamentals; then tackle the more advanced concepts.
  • ubergeek09, on 10/16/2007, -4/+0Looks great, pretty but not pretty to the point it's stupid like a mac.
  • nroth, on 10/16/2007, -6/+2I don't understand it.....Can I go to any theme website, sort by the worst rating and post it on digg and it will hit the front page? Thats the only thing I'm getting from this. I don't care how people say KDE is sooo much better than gnome, if you made a handsoap that worked better than regular, but looked and smelled like turds, it doesn't mean I'm going to use it.
    • thtroyer, on 10/16/2007, -2/+3It's still in development, dude. When you're writing/developing programs, looks come last. It'll get there.

      Just because you don't like something doesn't mean you have to mindlessly bash it.
      • nroth, on 10/17/2007, -1/+1Yes, it still is in development, but they are designing it to look like that....It looks just like the mockups I've seen before. I'm not mindlessly bashing it, It's a poorly designed gui, simple as that. People want it to be useful as possible and take up the optimum amount of space. Generally in technology we are going towards usability and optimization, are we not? Those navigation buttons look like they are for the elderly. I thought they are working on linux being attractive so to get a larger linux community. I for one, am not a fan of vista, but this compared to vista is ridiculous.
  • msjacoby, on 10/17/2007, -2/+1Wow - that actually looks pretty damn good.
  • anand78, on 10/16/2007, -0/+1My biggest complaint with KDE is the freaking useless applications in the start menu. I always spend up wasting a lot of time getting rid of Apps starting with a K in the menu. Next up I have to delete the apps that don't have a associated icon. Refer the screen shot one of the windows has a "?". How does all of this escape the eye of the developers.
  • sethosayher, on 10/17/2007, -3/+1Konqueror looks gorgeous in that theme, but I'm not digging that dock thing...could be slicker.
    • Disfnord, on 10/17/2007, -0/+3where did you see konqueror in that screenshot?
  • iregistered4ths, on 10/16/2007, -0/+1I find these single color layouts completely unusable, I hope its easily changeable.I like to know where the buttons, textboxes, menus, status bars, etc begin and end so I can easily and quickly click when I need to.
  • bejayel, on 10/16/2007, -0/+4when KDE stop being so dirty hungry, call me.
    As for oxygen. Its pretty, but i dont see what all the hype is about...
  • RoadWarriorX11, on 10/16/2007, -1/+1*sniffles and sheds a tear* It's .... It's..... beautiful..
  • ispshadow, on 10/16/2007, -0/+1Wow, I'm absolutely floored. I've always preferred Gnome over KDE and I'm going to consider switching after seeing these shots..
  • linuxrebel, on 10/16/2007, -0/+3Clean ... Yes I am a KDE fan. but they do waste an inordinate amount of real-estate for the "menu bar" at the top.
  • nubnub, on 10/16/2007, -2/+1orgasmic
  • Psi57, on 10/17/2007, -0/+3Yay! KDE doesn't look like blue UI diarrhea anymore!
  • mastag, on 10/17/2007, -2/+3IMHO it's ugly. Good for GNOME fans ;-)
  • AhronZombi, on 10/17/2007, -1/+1HAHA i knew it wouldnt turn out anything like the mock ups hardley the step up from the last release that they claimed. lets be glad gnome and xfce innovate.
  • jmcantrell, on 10/16/2007, -0/+1nice... now, if they could only make gnome apps running in kde look a little less like dog *****
  • cduquette, on 10/17/2007, -0/+1Why'd they change the interface color? It reminds me too much of Windows XP's default theme now. It's a similar grey.

    Oxygen: #E9E9D8
    Luna: #ECE9D8

    These are almost identical colors. A general user would probably have a tough time distinguishing the difference in the colors. They removed a slight amount of red compared to the Windows XP theme, but it's still very close. Screenshot of Windowx XP's theme for proof. http://www.metatheme.org/img/themes/luna.png
  • douglaslondrina, on 10/18/2007, -0/+0They are still missing something that I don't know... But looks great.
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