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- jeremymccurdy, on 10/10/2007, -2/+39If you don't like it, don't use it. I'm getting really sick of all this "they copied so-and-so" stuff, good ideas should proliferate.
- schestowitz, on 10/10/2007, -9/+29Thank goodness the flip plugin is original. ;-)
- kazamx, on 10/10/2007, -0/+16The first plugin just seems to be something to mess about with for 5 min then delete, however there maybe a use for it I am not seeing.
The second one could be nice for people moving from Vista, however its nowhere near as good as 'Scale' so I would stick with scale. - nullcodes, on 10/10/2007, -0/+15The filter that makes the screen red can be used in situations where you need to work in the dark and not have your vision lose it's dark adaptation. I guess astronomy is the main application for that. I used to have a program called skymap that had that feature.
- jeremymccurdy, on 10/10/2007, -1/+16This stuff was posted on the Official Compiz Fusion blog, has more information and the locations of the plug-ins in case anyone needs them.
http://smspillaz.wordpress.com/ - MavRevMatt, on 10/10/2007, -4/+17Stop bitchin' about Compiz/Linux stealing *****. If you really want to there's plenty of stuff that Apple and Microsoft stole. Really now, this is ***** stupid. Ideas are ideas, implementation is implementation. There's a bigass difference.
- jtbuck, on 10/10/2007, -0/+13I'm just glad that it was made so no ***** can claim the 3d flip crap as a vista feature.
- etruscan, on 10/10/2007, -0/+12Isn't Compiz essentially about unnecessary effects - for coolness sake? Isn't that why it's optional?
- atrus123, on 10/10/2007, -0/+12Meh. I don't really care if the plugin is unoriginal. At least, Linux makes it easy for users to develop plugins by the community for the community. That's the beauty of an open platform; it's often not a corporation who is developing, it's normal individuals just having fun.
Comment dugg down. - arbulus, on 10/10/2007, -0/+11for what?!
i can't take the suspense! - Area51mafia, on 10/10/2007, -0/+10The color switch could let color blind people see things as they actually are, if I understand how it works.
- jues, on 10/10/2007, -1/+11Sell it and buy an nVidia?
- LiquidRain, on 10/10/2007, -12/+21Flip 3D for Linux, and Cover Flow for application windows. Not very original.
- kodek, on 10/10/2007, -1/+10If it's not for monetary gain, why the hell would you care if they copied a feature or not?
- nerd05, on 10/10/2007, -0/+9LTS is for security updates and such, not for experimental software, I believe.
- Wyzard, on 10/10/2007, -0/+8Not quite... it could be used to let non-colorblind people see what things would look like to a colorblind person. That's useful to a UI designer, to make sure a UI is still usable by people who can't distinguish between certain colors.
- SamuelDr2, on 10/10/2007, -0/+8They are plug-ins, don't like it, don't activate it!
If you have the talent to, make one better! - sirhomer, on 10/10/2007, -1/+8At least the Compiz team has the decency to attribute the idea and not claim it's some "amazing never before seen innovation" like Apple is doing with Spaces. Or the "WOW STARTS ***NOW***" (barf) - a completely original OS from Microsoft.
- mobilehavoc, on 10/10/2007, -1/+8Where's the Youtube video of this in action with cheesy background music?!?
- Chandon, on 10/10/2007, -0/+7Seriously. If any desktop environment or OS were to remove the features that someone else implemented first, what would we have left? We'd have absolutely nothing useful, that's what - every computer since the very first one has copied 90%+ of it's ideas from the systems that came before.
- foofightrs777, on 10/10/2007, -2/+9Could the first plugin be useful for the color blind? I dunno seems about all it could potentially be good for. any comments or experience?
- martalli, on 10/10/2007, -0/+6Dugg for being the better primary source.
- thepxc, on 10/10/2007, -0/+6I'm colorblind and I guess I'm not colorblind enough, but that filter doesn't look like it'd do much for me.
- xspinkickx, on 10/10/2007, -0/+6you know what, I can remember for so long people who wanted the flip mode since beryl was still compiz-quinnstorm. I personally think scale is better but at least we have choice and thats what matters. Also for people who are migrating its good cause it helps them if they have scale (expose) or vista flip. I like the cover flow switcher its pretty bad ass. (borrowed from apple).
- nanostream, on 10/10/2007, -1/+7man my heart sank when I first used it
but now i've got to say, I like it more than vista's own implementation - jeremymccurdy, on 10/10/2007, -1/+7How about we shut the ***** up about everyone copying stuff?
It's not like working with another person's idea is a new thing, unless you feel like bitching about the wheel too. - musther, on 10/10/2007, -0/+5It's quite an obvious 'idea', and besides, we all know that if there is a good idea, everyone will copy it. How about maximise minimise effects - Apple Lisa was the first I think, but now we have them in every OS, how about a unix-compatible/based system for stability - Apple didn't just take the idea, they took the BSD base. The only thing we can know for sure it that Microsoft don't steal good ideas, and even when they do, they make a bad job. Apple has been doing nice graphics things on OSX for a while now, we have compiz on linux, and MS spend six years on Vista, and the effects they give us are very limited (when compared to what can be done easily with compiz plugins) and very, very resource intensive. Of all these desktop graphics systems, compiz seems to be lowest on system resources. Anyway, who needs Flip3D or something like it, compiz-scale is much, much more useful.
In computing, any good idea gets used over and over and over again, and by everyone. It's the implementation that is important, and compiz implementation of desktop effects is awesome - ok it has issues, but it's not claiming to be a final release yet. - meatmcguffin, on 10/10/2007, -0/+5Yeah, from first hand experience i know that cover flow is fantastic on Leopard when you have many files (especially text) that you need to distinguish between, but it just really isn't suited to window management.
The old alt-tab/command tab shows you applications at the same time, expose show your windows at the same time, the dock shows you apps at the same time, the start bar shows your apps at the same time..... coverflow and flip3d show one single window from one single app at any one time and make you scroll through them. Useless. - CryptiniteDemon, on 10/10/2007, -2/+7Sucks that I can't run compiz on my stupid ati card. I've done every single workaround possible and nothing works. I hate ATI
- romulasry, on 10/10/2007, -0/+5In Soviet Russia?
- jlebrech, on 10/10/2007, -0/+5My workmate says the colorfilter would be all he needs to enable him to have a computer in his darkroom with a bit of work it shouldnt screw up his developments.
- richardiscool, on 10/10/2007, -0/+5I think he probably used a "less than" symbol.
- arbulus, on 10/10/2007, -0/+5if you are using an LTS version, it is assumed that you aren't going to be into cutting edge stuff like this.
so to answer: no. - zenlunatic, on 10/10/2007, -0/+4So. You can do email on the command line. What is your point?
- ravi7791, on 10/10/2007, -0/+4well on leopard, cover flow is just used to manage files and is meant to be used with the quick look feature. From what I read, it's a pretty nice/useful feature (that is, with quick look working with it)
- Marex, on 10/10/2007, -0/+3The colorfilter plugin is intened to be used by people how are disabled in the way they can see e.g. color blind people. But with the right filters it can also increase contrast and such. Guillaume Seguin is working on this plugin as part of his Google Summer of Code Project. More Informations can be found here: http://guillaume.segu.in/blog/
- phoenixawe, on 10/10/2007, -2/+5This guy needs a spell-checker.
- martalli, on 10/10/2007, -0/+3You can get a decent nvidia 7300gs for less than $40 at newegg. Dell was previously selling their ubuntu computers with 7300le cards, although they just bumped them to 8300gs. I doubt the directx 10 capability matter for linux/compiz. Anyway, my son's c2d/512mb/7300le does compiz just fine.
- 16777216, on 10/10/2007, -0/+3Here is a fix that works but it's a bit complicated
http://forums.opencompositing.org/viewtopic.php?f=40&t=522 - leohart, on 10/10/2007, -0/+3Compiz Fusion from my experience is as stable as Beryl is. Since Beryl is no longer under development, I would think that switching to Compiz Fusion is a sensible choice.
- martalli, on 10/10/2007, -0/+3You can probably replace it with an nvidia card for
- zenlunatic, on 10/10/2007, -1/+4Ladies and gentlemen, meet meatmcguffin, self-appointed dictator of what you may and may not code.
- m0tbaillie, on 10/10/2007, -0/+3The whole point of Beryl/Compiz was that Windows use to tout Vista and rant and rave about how it had such wooooonderful eye-candy. However, it is a HUGE strain on system resources. They also used this tactic as a sly jab at the *NIX community because most Linux distros have never been known for being pretty. So, the Beryl/Compiz projects came about and it was basically an "ORLY?" to Microsoft. Flashy graphics, cool 3D effects, and it uses far less system resources than anything Windows has ever cranked out.
- musther, on 10/10/2007, -0/+3Yeah, that's something that I was AMAZED not to see Vista stealing - workspaces. I mean come on, I know they're trying to crush GNU/Linux, but surely the stopped to actually look at it!
- zenlunatic, on 10/10/2007, -0/+3Vista Lovers consists of Paul Thurott, Balmer, and Gates.
- jeremymccurdy, on 10/10/2007, -1/+4Couldn't find one with cheesy music, but:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PH3L_Ed2LRE - xspinkickx, on 10/10/2007, -0/+3yeah the compiz team at least acknowledge where they got the idea.
- HonoredMule, on 10/10/2007, -0/+2How about poor visibility of actual window contents and titles, further exacerbated by loss of window size relationships. Expose and clones make way more sense for actually finding the window you want, and Coverflow and clones are more or less a compromise between shiny and usable, with a slight bonus in keeping a clearer window-ordering relationship than tile-based window switching.
Whether Flip3D is attractive is purely subjective (I think it's ugly), but it's usability is quantifiably poor. - japostoles, on 10/10/2007, -2/+4If only they'd implement the workaround for the nVidia black window bug that was in Beryl :-/
I know it's the nVidia drivers that have the bug, but without using indirect rendering a lot of nVidia users can't take advantage of the project unless they stick with Beryl. - Jammerdelray, on 10/10/2007, -0/+2The last 2 Compiz Fusion plugins are awesome.
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