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- rzebram, on 10/12/2007, -0/+4I'm still waiting for a Windows backup client that's as smooth as Mozy (https://mozy.com/?ref=Q8X3M1 affiliate, http://mozy.com/ non-affiliate). It would be perfect for use on family member's Windows boxes because it does backups silently and only when idle, and has some pretty powerful category-based backup set stuff to make choosing files easily. Sadly the free version is only 2GB.
Anyone have any suggestions of similar software that's just as user-friendly to the non-techies? - sanmarcos, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3One word: Duplicity http://www.nongnu.org/duplicity/
Don't waste any more time. It should just work - penedo, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3Shachar Shemesh from Lingnu is a veteran security expert developing something called "rsyncrypto" (http://sourceforge.net/projects/rsyncrypto). It's an encryption method (based on well-known algorithms, not some snake-oil) which allows on one hand to get your stuff completely encrypted before it leaves the client you back-up while still taking advantage of rsync's ability to cut down the amount of data transferred. It's cross-platform (has Windows and Linux clients), and GPL. Might worth considering for people here who expressed interest in this subject.
- elroy, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3you can also tunnel rsync through ssh, which can also gzip it's stream.
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2incremental backup? just tar and scp won't cut it.
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2Well, would love to see such free windows backup software which will allow for scheduled, compressed and encrypted backup and restore, which is also cross platform.
- basselope, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2Yep, John Travolta has struck again!
It's a mysterry wrapped in an enigma rolled in a light beer-batter of stupidity. - Stonekeeper, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2I would say that the most important part of backup solutions isn't backing the data up, that's easy. It's having a good, simple way of restoring those backups.
My current favourite is BackupPC for simple data recovery: http://backuppc.sourceforge.net/
Works on most platforms. - neko, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2two words! rdiff-backup http://www.nongnu.org/rdiff-backup/
- monolith, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2I'm using bacula to do native windows backups now. It isn't encrypted but it does support SSL encryption. I'll set that up soon. It works with a robot and all. Very nice. Very fast.
- seanalltogether, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1same thing happens to me when i try to view the article below this one on the main page about teh chat program
- SuperSloth, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1Tar does incremental backups. It has for years.
- penedo, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1@elroy and @jerfoo:
Your have the solution for your problem - syncing securely across the net - but the rsyncrypto addresses another need - how to allow someone else to backup your stuff without letting them access to it? rsyncrypto encrypts the files before sending them and the destination cannot read them without you providing the key. - inactive, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1Symantec Backup exec is not enterprise software. Its priced for those small business with 4-5 servers MAX. It's licensing structure discourages UNIX and Remote backups (as these now require client agents for both purposes. It is also based on a codebase from Seagate Backupexec 6 which is about the crappiest backup software I've ever used.
Symantec's Enterprise product Netbackup is widely regarded as the only cross-platform enterprise Netbackup solution. It is also priced relatively similarly to BackupExec, although again you pay licenses for more advanced features such as Shared Storage Options, Ecryption and 3rd party agents. It's also remarkably open ended, and the smarter admins can write their own tools. Anyone caught dead using the 'ad-hoc' and consumer methods and programs decribed by the parent, or digg article in particular for anything remotely important (enough to require encryption?) has my deepest sympathies. - nivals, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0Amanda is great, it has been around for ages. For my clients with mixed OS environments Mac OS, Linux, and Windows I have been using BackupRight http://www.backupright.com/ for an online backup solution. Encrypted and offsite, its a must for my data.
- Uruz7, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0That's pretty retarded. What's wrong with tar and scp? Generate an RSA key on the server, put all the keys on the clients and have a cron scp the backup stuff over.
Actually the best bet is to have all the users save their work to a NFS share and then just backup that drive with the shares. Users are dumb so the least amount of data should be stored on their machines. - jerfoo, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0I've found that rsync and unison thru ssh work great. Unison allow two-way syncing. I can create/modify a file locally on my home computer and the file is automatically synced to my office server. When I get to my office, all my home files are there. I can modify them at work and the changes will sync with my home. VERY NICE.
I use rsync for things that don't require two-way syncing...like my iTunes and iPhoto libraries. Check out Unison here: http://www.cis.upenn.edu/~bcpierce/unison/ - paul1979, on 10/12/2007, -1/+1Wow i didn't know Amanda was so easy to setup, i will definitely consider using it in the future
Cheers!! - sreedharacharya, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0Hi,
Please I need help!
I am using Rsync to backup my files/folders. I am running Rsync on a Windows OS with Cygwin.
Now, I want to Encrypt the files during backup. I can understand that "Rsyncrypto" can solve my purpose. But the big question is I am not understanding how to use "Rsyncrypto" along with Rsync on Window.
I hope you will resolve my following queries:
1. How to setup "Rsyncrypto" to encrypt/decrypt the files under windows.
2. How much time "Rsyncrypto" will consume to Encrypt/Decrypt for a file of size 4GB
3. If I encrypt a file using "Rsyncrypto", during file backup using Rsync, whether Rsync can perform the incremental backup of the same file during next transfer.
4. Is there any difference in transfer performance with regular file (file without encryption) and encrypted file (file encrypted using "Rsyncrypto") transfer using Rsync.
Thanks & Regards
Sreedhar Acharya B - killerbyte, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0I find using rsync over ssh pretty more effective than any other backup solutions i've tried. On windows, I usually don't need to do backups, because I use roaming profiles and home shares stored on a central server.
- ggiddiggdigg, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0Does anyone have issues with backups where users can copy files to a Windows network share but when making a backup of that share on the server the windows file/folder path is too long and the only way to manage the data is to create a windows share some where further down the file path to access the files?
This is an issue where the file and folder path is fine on the workstation but in the destination folder on the server the file/folder path length gets pushed beyond the limits of even copy/delete/ - killerbyte, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0Actually you're wrong about rsync/ssh - you can make incremental backups and keep in pool several days just like any other backup solution. And then, of course, you can distribute multiple copies per storage server or just copy to tape. I also use commercial solutions like veritas for windows on several customers, but on unix systems, with the right combination of tools and some scripting, you often get more flexible configurations.
- tupuli, on 10/12/2007, -1/+1ignore this shill
- bks1, on 10/12/2007, -1/+0Reasonably almost all backup software will work for you - the question is just how hard do you want to work to make sure that you have a valid backup of all your data? I have been a hardcore http://www.bacula.org user for a while (yes I have run Amanda) but I have always felt that something was missing. I was able to backup my data across the network%u2026but then what? It was still in my office%u2026
I tried colocating the backup server but I found that I was always having issues with the Windows Servers. The problems were not really the flat files it was the %u201Cdatabase%u2019ed%u201D or indexed applications that really fall flat when using OSS backup. I was never able to recover from an Exchange mailbox crash or keep a SQL database online while backing up.
In came http://www.veritas.com Veritas backup exec that charges you for every little thing that you need to backup. Its like $500 for the Exchange Module, similar for SQL server, Disaster Recovery is extra%u2026 All of this is crazy - for $1500 you get software that controls that tape drive and you still have to remember to change the tapes or sometimes get an IT person to setup the jobs%u2026 For something so critical it should just be easier - back me up online!! Charge me a little bit for peace of mind and just get it over with.
For the Linux boxes we used http://www.arkeia.com Arkeia - I don%u2019t know if they have made it easier to maintain, but the version 5 was really just lousy. It would freeze all the time, it got to the point that we had to run Tar on the machines, copy the backups via scp to another box just so that it can backup. Thank goodness those days are over.
For those of you who want to use an RSYNC / ssh / scp method - this really does nothing to archive your data unless it is set up correctly, it just gives you a most recient snapshot which is fine unless you really want to be able to recover from earlier than that.
I just got tired, I have been in the process of evaluating commercial alternatives for backup and have found products like http://www.xdrive.com and http://remote-backup.com just don%u2019t quite fit the mold.
I prefer using systems like http://www.evault.com or http://www.backupright.com to protect my critical infrastructure. Simple interfaces %u2013 reasonable cost and I belive that there is even multi-platform support... So that you can support your OS X road warriors, you WinTel sales people and you *nix / Linux engineers all with one easy to use platform%u2026 Remote backup, off site is really the future for my needs.
Once again %u2013 I don%u2019t need EVERYTHING in life to be free%u2026 I know that if I loose the boss%u2019s data %u2013 I will be free to find another job. I just want EVERYTHING to be reliable. - abuser, on 10/12/2007, -6/+1Wonderful - "a combination of Amanda, Samba and .... tools". Probably great to maintain too.
You can do the same thing much easier using free Windows backup software (backup Samba shares). - cphuntington97, on 10/12/2007, -7/+2This is off topic but can anyone else get "the unfunny truth about scientology 2" page to load?
http://www.digg.com/tech_news/the_unfunny_truth_about_scientology_2
It does not load for me.
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