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- avocade, on 10/12/2007, -0/+12from the announcement:
A year ago, the Democracy Platform was only an idea: as video moves onto the internet, there needs to be an independent and open-source system that everyone can take part in.
The alternative is grim: major media corporations see internet video as the next goldmine and are trying desperately to push people into proprietary video formats and distribution schemes.
For truly open and independent internet TV to emerge, we need a solid infrastructure of world class open-source software. Our mission is to build those tools, and we are coming along quickly-- but we need your help to get to Democracy Player 1.0.
We need to raise money to continue our work. We want to make the software faster, more solid, and add crucial features like one-click subscription and fullscreen controls. Can you make a monthly contribution to support our development? Recurring donations are immensely helpful: predictable income frees us up to focus on the software. We are a 501c3 organization and your donation is text-deductible. - SirSid, on 05/27/2009, -1/+10I like their new player its MUCH more stable. This program is still in its infancy and it needs everybodies help to grow.
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -4/+12how much more stable? last time i tried it, it was buggier than paris hilton's crotch.
- trvr, on 10/12/2007, -2/+8that would be Current TV, which, from your comments, you have never seen.
- Sagres, on 10/12/2007, -2/+7Spread the word!
- alienvenom, on 10/12/2007, -0/+5Sweet! Also, don't forget that its fully compatible with tvRSS - http://tvrss.net ! :-D
- wilwheaton, on 10/12/2007, -1/+5Wow. How insanely frustrating. This seems like such a great idea, but it sent me into dependency hell on my Debian machine, and though it will start up in wine, it won't show me any channels or content. I'll check back on this in a few months when it's been developed more, but right now I have to agree with dracula. It's totally unusable (for me at least.)
- briguy, on 10/12/2007, -0/+4I tried to install it on Kubuntu Dapper, but it had trouble with the libboost-python library. A dpkg --force-all installed it, but it wouldn't run. However, I can get the Windows version to run under wine. Go figure!
- toasterwaffle, on 10/12/2007, -1/+5Hmm, I guess its my responsibility to say that you can run GTK applications on KDE...
...for those who don't know. - briguy, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3They have a screenshot on the website. Check out https://develop.participatoryculture.org/projects/democracy/wiki/GTKX11BuildDocs but it's probably old and built from source.
- MrEcho, on 10/12/2007, -1/+4Way to much of a dependency hell for me, and im Gentoo.
Something like this that needs that many dependencs needs to have a static packages.
I dont mind running python packages, but most require to many deps.
Untill they come out with a c++ version, or most of it done in c++, I wont be using it. - inactive, on 10/12/2007, -1/+4All those images on their server, slowing, slowing.........
Democracy Player:
http://www.downseek.com/download/36117.asp - trvr, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3its only 640x480 (running on media server without a monitor)
http://www.flickr.com/photos/trvr3307/136091031/ - macewan, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6MVR-4DkjSo
ok, so I youtubed it real quickly for the Ubuntu group - dyon, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2I tried to run it on my kubuntu breezy badger, but I got some big errors
Too bad, it sounds really great. - heresy, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2Anyone have any screenshots of it on Linux?
- electronicmaji, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2They should of done part of the coding in python and another part in c++
- stalinvlad, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2On XP it works, sort of...
As long as you wait for it to load, click what you want ONCE and wait its OK
Bash it around and it falls over
If it really falldown you have to delete the user profile under Document & SEttings\Appliction datadem.... etc etc
I love it, use it every day, seems to play everything (uses VLC to play video, so only Real missing I think...)
#MrEcho has a point, Python may be good for prototyping but this needs something a little more stable
How about re-writing it in Fortran95? HEHEHE - proidiot, on 10/12/2007, -1/+3go get me itunes for linux......
i'll still use democracy, but please, i beg you, find me itunes for linux - AttroPheed, on 10/12/2007, -1/+3It's a pretty sweet app and I'd certainly use it a lot more if it didn't crash every other ***** time i tried to subscribe to a channel or watch a video (the only 2 things it does).
- asraniel, on 10/12/2007, -1/+3thisisgil, sorry, but you have no idea what your talking about... but i dont want to start a kde gnome flamewar, im just saying that kde does some amazing things lately and its developing speed is extremely high (sorry, no app like kopete (gaim isnt even near the features of kopete), k3b, amarok (omg i love amarok), konqueror (well, you have firefox, which is very good, but konqueror with kio slaves is sooo cool).
But there are also good things is gnome, im just saying that the kde applications are better for me. - heresy, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2Thanks guys.
- zeppelin06, on 10/12/2007, -1/+2Finally, early today I checked the site to see what the status was, then two hours later its on digg, Yes
- macewan, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1not sure where I got those - guess I just like the way they look :-)
update on using the Democracy Player on Linux - this is a short clip showing it starting up and watching diggnation
Democracy Player Linux Diggnation
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N7W33Qv-7HI - birdwatcher3000, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1Naming a product and using the word "Democracy" is a bad idea.
The more people use it (the word) the more people will hate it in the end. But then again... this is democracy, right? - cookiecaper, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1They should just build this into amaroK.
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1Where do the videos download to under linux? I am using debian/ubuntu.
- macewan, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1http://www.macewan.org/images/DemocracyPlayer.png
screenie of Democracy Player on Ubuntu Dapper ^^
did it from source instead since the .deb was bitchn:
wget http://ftp.osuosl.org/pub/pculture.org/democracy/linux/src/Democracy-0.8.2-Linux.tar.gz
sudo apt-get update
sudo apt-get install python-pyrex libboost-python-dev python-gtk2-dev python-gnome2-extras-dev mozilla-dev - dracula7, on 10/12/2007, -2/+3cant you guys accept that this program doesnt remotely live up to its mission statement... absolutely unusable on every platform
- macewan, on 10/12/2007, -2/+3i've been waiting for this - thanks for the link
The .deb:
http://ftp.osuosl.org/pub/pculture.org/democracy/linux/ubuntu/Democracy-0.8.2-i386-ubuntu.deb
Install notes:
https://develop.participatoryculture.org/projects/democracy/wiki/LinuxNotes - proidiot, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1as far as i know, amarok doesn't stream mp3's at all, it is mostly just a front end
- sourbrew, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1Will not play flv either, or at least they will not support rss feeds with .flv as content.
- dick-richardson, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1~/.democracy/Bittorrent
- proidiot, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1what's w/ this desktop slamming stuff??
i use whichever program is better for what i'm doing, regardless of whether it is a kde app or a gnome app or whatever
in fact, it sounds like most people do that
for example: regardless of desktop, it seems that a large majority of linux users do in fact use firefox, which i dont think technically belongs to any particular desktop environment
gnome is very good at what it is trying to be good at
if it weren't, it wouldn't be the default desktop of ubuntu, fedora, and debian
gnome is very streamlined, very fast, and very efficient
it may not have all the eye candy, but it just works
and almost every linux distro has gtk by default even if the desktop is kde
and, thisisgil:
kde is certainly not near its deathbed
some programs are glitchy at times (konqueror, arts), but some others are not (k3b, amarok)
so stop bashing desktops
its not like they are editors - mooninite, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1amarok is useless for me. All my music is on a server and is streamed via a PHP interface and amarok doesn't support streaming MP3s worth crap. It's database and voting features don't integrate at all with it.
- fakesman, on 10/12/2007, -3/+4It's not really a TV like experience as it's all "pull" content, to use a phrase from the 90s, but it's still really enjoyable and fun to use. Similar in function to the iTunes video podcast viewer, but Democracy gets it where Apple doesn't.
- drgalaxy, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1GREAT project. How many other non profit projects encourage people to contribute original multimedia content?
I had no problems installing or running on Win2k (PIII 450, 384mb). Ubuntu made me install two mozilla packages but I already had most of the Python stuff.
Without Python they would have had to basically code three different programs. Some of it is written in C++, I assume with the intention of moving more as they get their design worked out. As it stands, they separate 'platform' code and 'portable' code (https://develop.participatoryculture.org/projects/democracy/browser/trunk/tv). - googli, on 06/13/2008, -0/+0I think the following link on that site was more interesting:
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