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- inactive, on 10/14/2007, -4/+17Excellent!
- shawnanigans, on 10/17/2007, -3/+16Should I be mad that this is draining man-hours away from KDE 4 which has already been delayed?
- darkNiGHTS, on 10/14/2007, -1/+13Could someone explain to me how they do this? Are the same programmers working on KDE3 and KDE4 or do they have two separate teams?
- dualscreenman, on 10/17/2007, -1/+13Look at the commit list for KDE4 every week. Then compare it to the changelog for 3.5.8.
In short, KDE 4 has so much more work put in to it that these changes are minuscule and probably didn't take many man-hours away (in comparison to the many, many man-hours spent during KDE 4 dev) at all. - NJHewitt, on 10/17/2007, -1/+12Also consider that KDE 4.0, even when it is released, may unfortunately not be quite ready for all uses. KDE 3's life-cycle will overlap with its successor for a good long while. The professional desktops that need rock-solid reliability will still keep using KDE 3 until maybe 4.1 or 4.2 is out. KDE's funders like it this way. So no, you shouldn't be mad. It's good for the KDE project as a whole.
- miyamotofreak, on 10/14/2007, -0/+10I'm guessing this will be the Kubuntu default desktop.
- kinghajj, on 10/16/2007, -1/+10Some programmers use .cc for C++ files, so using .hh for C++ headers would match.
- inactive, on 10/15/2007, -1/+10feature rich != Bloatware
Retards like you call Firefox Bloated too. Go back to using Lynx. or if you are so pissed off about bloat then stick to your ***** command line retard. - djmdave, on 10/16/2007, -0/+9correct: as of now Help > About KDE = 3.5.8 in gutsy
i guess it got included due to it being a small incremental update, but still suprising how close kubuntu is to final release - HerbertScrunge, on 10/16/2007, -0/+9Actually, rather surprisingly, it *is* the default for Gutsy - it replaced KDE 3.5.7 in the repos yesterday, I think.
- dwbell, on 10/14/2007, -1/+9In the open source world people work on what they want to work on, often referred to as 'scratching an itch'. But yes it is largely the same people.
- taurustiger, on 10/16/2007, -3/+11LEAVE GNOME ALONE! GNOME is is great desktop environment and lots of people like it. LEAVE GNOME ALONE!!
- aaronm67, on 10/14/2007, -0/+7...how about Novell/Suse? Trolltech? There are also many people who do consulting work for the KDE project, essentially being paid to develop a specific part of the project. Many other companies donate money, and the project offers X people to develop X project for $x.
You're kidding yourself if you think all free/open source apps are developed for free. - stmiller, on 10/16/2007, -0/+6Topic: News » Technology » Linux/Unix
- oobuntu, on 10/14/2007, -0/+4There's a few questions about KDE man-hours etc. To learn a bit more about KDE, I read these interviews with KDE contributors, some paid, some unpaid, at http://behindkde.org/people/
It is a very good insight into the work that goes on. - mindlessxd, on 10/16/2007, -1/+5I'd imagine a bug like that takes ~3 seconds to fix if you know where to look. I don't think that'd occupy them for long.
- EnterDaMatrix, on 10/14/2007, -1/+4Some people prefer to use more stable software. KDE 4 isn't considered stable among alot of distros, and alot of people use the most solid stable ones possible (Ubuntu Dapper, Debian Stable). These are rock solid distros than can be trusted more, but still need bugfixes.
This is also why MS still updates Windows XP (Although I don't consider it stable at all) when Vista is in the wild. - lengau, on 10/14/2007, -0/+3As I stated in the story, Gutsy's main repositories have already updated to 3.5.8.
- EnterDaMatrix, on 10/16/2007, -1/+4No, this is normal. This happens with every linux app and even the kernel. There is still being work done on Linux 2.4 when most have moved on to 2.6. The reason is some peoples' hardware isn't supported in the new kernel. You can't just leave legacy software users in the dust.
- rolosworld, on 10/14/2007, -3/+6more like, gnome kicks you in the balls.... at least thats what I feel like when I use gnome!
- Zettablade, on 10/14/2007, -0/+2yeah
- westyvw, on 10/14/2007, -1/+3SO who are these corporations that are paying KDE workers? TheKompany supports Koffice, but KDE itself is made up of mostly unpaid volunteers.
- inactive, on 10/14/2007, -0/+2Your ideas intrigue me and I wish to subscribe to your newsletter.
- GMorgan, on 10/16/2007, -0/+2KDE 3rd point releases happen about once a year. They are usually big things.
- GMorgan, on 10/15/2007, -0/+1Just highlights once again there is no such thing as a feature freeze. There are always changes, mind you rarely an entire DE rev.
- Zettablade, on 10/15/2007, -1/+2Firefox is actually kinda bloated though. I would switch to opera in a heartbeat, but Firefox has all it's wonderful plugins T_T
- inactive, on 10/14/2007, -2/+3 The one thing i really hope they fix is the scroll bar...Whenever i change a theme,no matter what i change it to,the scroll bar stays blue...
Now,Ive dug all through the innards of KDE and I cannot find a way to make the stupid scroll bar match the colors of the rest of the theme. - baalzebub, on 10/16/2007, -1/+1WTF, buried as inaccurate, here we are @ monday and none of KDE's ftp & mirrors show KDE-3.5.8...
- KahNeth, on 10/14/2007, -3/+3and the bloat in the os makes the hd disk go round and round
- inactive, on 10/14/2007, -2/+1Didnt we all agree that this meme had died last week?
- watcht, on 10/14/2007, -2/+1wtf spam here> ? take that mess to youtube's ***** where it belongs..
- dotpage, on 10/16/2007, -7/+6Gimme KDE4 or gimme nothing!!
- inactive, on 10/16/2007, -6/+3too late i thiink. it will probably show up as an update on the repository. gutsy is slated for release within 4 days now.
- aaronm67, on 10/14/2007, -5/+2...you say that like people aren't being paid to work on KDE?
Open source is slightly different then proprietary, in that some of the programming is volunteer work. But, a huge part of KDE (and most large open source apps) is developed by companies or corporations, or companies/corporations paying to have a certain part of the application developed further.
So, no, you're wrong. For the most part, people work on what they are told/paid to work on. - MrTea, on 10/14/2007, -10/+5Kate
* Add .hh Extension for C++ syntax highlighting. Fixes bug 149801. See SVN commit 711659.
What happend to just using .h? - inactive, on 10/16/2007, -12/+2I've used .hpp (to distinguish between C++ and C headers), but never .hh.
Maybe the KDE devs are just bored and need ***** minutiae to occupy themselves with, instead of actually fixing the bugs that have languished in their tracking system for months and years. - XXXXXXXXXXXXXX, on 10/16/2007, -17/+4I just noticed this is the first time we haven't had a ron paul story in the top ten for months.
- czechman86, on 10/16/2007, -18/+4do we really need another announcement like this, i mean next thing you know its going to be "[Insert Software Name Here] 1.0.4.56.13.2.45.8b Released!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!"
- babakshirazi, on 10/16/2007, -19/+1People still use KDE? lol...
- inactive, on 10/16/2007, -21/+2Bah, gnome kicks more ass.
- diecastbeatdown, on 10/16/2007, -30/+3kde and gnome - the rise of linux bloatware.....
soon it will all be crap!
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