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- technoredneck, on 01/04/2008, -2/+70Screw the iPhone; I want one of these.
- ScornForSega, on 01/04/2008, -1/+26I really wish they'd just put out a consumer version of anything before upgrading hardware specs and rewriting their OS. I'm sure they have good reason for the constant delays, but Android is lurking on the horizon and could very well render this project useless.
- bightchee, on 01/04/2008, -2/+27I am logging in just to digg this. Not any game console or Apple product or anything short of a nice pair of breasts has had me as excited as this device does.
- h3lx, on 01/04/2008, -2/+20You know you're reading too much ***** when you see "Huckabee Linux phone upgraded"
- brklynmark, on 01/04/2008, -0/+16So did they just skip over mass production of the 1973 altogether?
- Koppie, on 01/04/2008, -0/+15Our IT guy got his hands on the developer's edition. It's a pretty sweet phone and when you see the text scrolling as it starts up (like a true linux box) it almost makes you hard. The hardware is good, the interface is slick, but it's not terribly usable. There aren't a lot of configuration options yet. Definitely not ready for mass consumption yet but I'm sure it will be soon. And the better hardware for the final release was always part of the plan; nowadays you can't get away with a high-end smartphone that doesn't have wifi.
- inactive, on 01/04/2008, -0/+11I would love to believe in this project, but it just never really quite "gets there." In the meantime, Google comes out and totally undermines the effort with their own, and the irritating thing is that almost none of the stories about Android mentioned OpenMoko.
The other problem is what the iPhone made clear to a lot of former Verizon customers: AT&T service and coverage suck ass. GSM in the U.S. hobbles along, offering service inferior to that offered by CDMA 8 years ago during the early transition to digital. Unfortunately, GSM is what any new venture has to go with in order to be internationally viable.
Then we have the upcoming iPhone SDK, which everyone will wait for and which will probably be hobbled in some profound manner.
And finally, WHY IS DIGG INSERTING EXTRA BLANK LINES IN COMMENTS? - polyGone, on 01/04/2008, -1/+11Your title is not indicative of content.
- inactive, on 01/04/2008, -9/+16anyone read that as "Huckabee linux phone upgraded"
- papavb, on 01/04/2008, -3/+9I'd advise against using digg a minute afer waking up, I saw Huckabee Linux phone upgraded
- concertina, on 01/04/2008, -0/+6The Neo1973 has a microsd slot, so you can add 8gb of storage. Presumably the FreeRunner would as well.
- airwalkery2k, on 01/04/2008, -0/+6Hah, yeah. I think I'm reading too much political news, and not enough hacking news.
- noots, on 01/04/2008, -1/+6it pains me everytime i see this phone. It looks ridiculously bad. Yet offers everything i want in a phone.
- Kamujin, on 01/05/2008, -0/+5What the hell is an iPhone?
- bgmowen, on 01/04/2008, -1/+6Finally something good is coming out!
- vancanucksfan, on 01/04/2008, -0/+4where did google say android will run native linux applications? or are you just making it up?
and openmoko does run an x-server - starkruzr, on 01/04/2008, -0/+4I wish I had any confidence that this was going to go somewhere, but I don't. The dev team has no direction and over a year after the first devices were available the phone is still unusable.
Also, there is no indication that the machine has a capacitive touchscreen. Why is this important? Because resistive ones require far too much pressure to work for a virtual keyboard to be viable; you will wear out the seals on a resistive touchscreen-equipped phone like this too quickly. - vancanucksfan, on 01/04/2008, -1/+5this is the linux phone we've been waiting for, not android. sure the android os is linux based, but you can't just compile native linux apps and have them running. android has a java like sandbox where you can build your apps, i wouldn't call that exciting. They have their own api and stuff but still, its not like how you would build apps for linux. Now the openmoko phone will be totally open with real native linux app support. let's say you wanted to run pidgin, well you would just get the neccessary dependencies, compile pidgin and voila. with android, you have to rewrite the app with the android sdk for it to run on that platform.
- voyvf, on 01/04/2008, -0/+3Never heard of a 'kernel hacker'? I believe what they meant by 'hackable' was native linux code can be run on this thing.
- KittySpark1es, on 01/04/2008, -6/+9Why did I read this as "Huckabee Linux Phone"? I feel bad.
- tekrat, on 01/04/2008, -1/+4The said in the release note in the last version that they would be releasing and upgraded version 3Q or 4Q 2007. They only missed their deadline by 3 days.
- llornkcor, on 01/04/2008, -1/+4Qtopia runs on the Neo and will run on this version as well, making it a very usable phone.. right now. Dont bother with the "default" gui, Qtopia is much more mature and stable and usable.
- jcaino, on 01/04/2008, -0/+3that's been really annoying me too, with the added line breaks.
- sqrt7744, on 01/05/2008, -0/+2still better looking than your mom though.
- sonofagunn, on 01/04/2008, -0/+2It says it will be released next year. It's only Jan 3.
- 0akley, on 01/04/2008, -1/+3my god that's nerdy... i want one!
- KyleGoetz, on 01/04/2008, -2/+4No, I think what they meant by "hackable" was that you are ABLE to HACK around on it.
- geminitojanus, on 01/04/2008, -0/+2You do realize that the FreeRunner is the renamed Neo1973 since nobody on earth could remember the numbers?
It's the same phone they've been developing for a couple of years now, just renamed to appeal to a wider audience. - mcnearcj, on 01/04/2008, -0/+2Who offers 3G for $15 a month? Not saying your wrong but If I can get that on my laptop I'd pay it.
- KyleGoetz, on 01/04/2008, -3/+5Someone doesn't speak English well.
- arbulus, on 01/04/2008, -0/+1What I want to know is when the consumer version, the final complete version ready for stores, will be complete. When can Joe Consumer purchase one of these phones and use it?
- starkruzr, on 01/04/2008, -0/+1I couldn't agree with everything you said MORE (unfortunately). I think we should expect the iPhone SDK to be a pile of garbage. I really hope Android doesn't turn out to have some fatal flaw.
I don't know. I'm not sure anything short of legislation can force the cellular carriers in the United States to open up to innovation. They have too much invested in artificial scarcity (of bandwidth, of content) as a revenue generator for it to happen. This is why there is no version of the Nokia N810 with a GSM radio, this is why the iPhone is as gimped as it is (out of the box), this is why Windows Mobile and Palm OS suck as badly as they do, this is why there has never been a *NIX-based cellphone that can actually do really useful things. - TehDoctor, on 01/04/2008, -0/+1I don't know why people dugg me down... the SD is nice, but does anyone really think integrated flash would be bad? Why not find some space to put 4G in /and/ give you the SD slot? At least then you have a large amount of storage by default as soon as you get the device.
- tiftof, on 01/04/2008, -0/+1I'm confused about this too. I was waiting for a mass release of the neo1973 which would have those better specs already that the freerunner will be having.
- sanotaan, on 01/04/2008, -0/+1joe consumer is likely not going to be interested in it; it seems rather that curious hackers would likely benefit from the consumer release of this phone. by the time this phone makes it to production, other phones will have trumped it in ways that are more important to joe consumer (most notably physical attributes and price)
- FTLJohnson, on 01/04/2008, -3/+4So does this device support Android?
- KongKNoob, on 01/04/2008, -1/+2They really should go for 3G. I wanna surf the high seas!
- GiJoeBob, on 01/04/2008, -0/+1When will the consumer version be available? Does anyone actually use this as their phone right now?
- neonpulse, on 01/04/2008, -0/+1The consumer version will be available when it's functions work reliably. I'm sure that many of the developers use it as their phone right now, that's how they push a products development, they force themselves to live with it so they run into problems that a consumer would and they fix them before it's released.
- WaRdRivR, on 01/04/2008, -0/+1this shall make for a sweet webpad/gyromouse for Linux MCE boxes.
oh yeah and it makes calls too! - cl0n3x, on 01/04/2008, -0/+1http://trolltech.com/products/qtopia
- tcdk, on 01/05/2008, -0/+1That's not an upgrade!
That's is as the specs has been for the consumer release for the last half year or so! Except the screen has gone from VGA to (a for me totally useless) WQVGA, and the release date has, once again, been pushed half a year into the future.
Those two things are the only real news in that story - the rest is just a very positive spin on an already known specification set. I'm very disappointed. I've been holding of buying a new phone, because I wanted one of these, and now suddenly it's useless for me - and I can't wait another half year. - chedabob, on 01/04/2008, -0/+1Protip: Leave the line breaks out, Digg will put them in for you, so you don't have to click Edit to remove the extra ones it puts in.
- formergthing, on 01/04/2008, -0/+1yea wtf?? I'm hoping it's a typo because they were expecting to release that early this year.
- ManOfCube, on 01/04/2008, -0/+1Android will suffer from the same problem as any open mobile platform unless it is distributed under GPLv3, and I doubt it will be. Carriers will be free to TiVoize it and treat it as they would any proprietary mobile os. You will not be able to install new applications or modify existing ones on your Verizon branded Android handset yourself; you will have to cough up cash for Veriozon approved applications. If you want a truly open platform running Android you'll have to get your own handset and bring it to a carrier yourself. That means GSM.
- largobargo, on 01/05/2008, -0/+1I'd still rather have this phone when it comes out.
http://gizmodo.com/gadgets/knock-it-off/meizu-m8-g ... - ronin691, on 01/04/2008, -0/+1I digg the all black look of the freerunner http://linuxdevices.com/files/misc/openmoko_freeru ...
- ubergeek09, on 01/06/2008, -0/+1950 MHz, OMG do want.
- neodorian, on 01/04/2008, -0/+1Uh...riiiight. The 2 best US carriers are CDMA. Anyway, it's all about the cost. Once a GSM provider offers me unlimited 3G for $15/month I will consider switching. Until then, it's CDMA with unlimited EVDO.
- ubergeek09, on 01/06/2008, -0/+1It's better looking than the idiotPhone.
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