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- luciferin, on 10/12/2007, -4/+29This title is misleading. It's running under Wine, which has been possible for a long time. This isn't really news and the title isn't really accurate.
- mouthster, on 10/12/2007, -1/+22Dude, your user name is "actionscripted".
- Quix, on 10/12/2007, -12/+31"RTFA" - bignate
Yes, bignate, please do. When you do, you'll realize Windows is only being used to transfer the vital files to be run via WINE in Linux. A limitation which shall be overcome, I'm sure. - seanmc303, on 10/12/2007, -5/+23I would guess that most Linux people don't have a problem buying software. They just don't enjoy buying broken M$ crap.
- alder, on 10/12/2007, -4/+18Now I can understand how this is useful if you want to author Flash.
But if (X)HTML + Javascript is your calling - forget Dreamweaver. Just get Aptana:
http://www.aptana.com/
Free, open source, eclipse plugin that does everything you might want from an HTML/JS code editor. - inactive, on 10/12/2007, -2/+14I am tired of being mislead by the digg titles on the subject of Flash for Linux. It really has become the boy who cried wolf. When Adobe actually does natively release Flash for Linux I will not know for months.
- bignate, on 10/12/2007, -27/+35The days of Windows are coming to an end by RUNNING WINDOWS inside Linux? RTFA.
- Hardcase, on 10/12/2007, -4/+12Here we go again - I think that we all know that WINE will run Windows programs.
- Visceral, on 10/12/2007, -3/+9Hey guys!! Look at me! I'm billy "I do everything in notepad" badass! Woot!
We can all only hope to be as cool as you. - lqqkout4elfy, on 10/12/2007, -1/+6The real way of getting rid of Windows dependency is quality apps. In the case of Flash, since SWF file format is known, all we need is some open sourced apps that formats some actionscript code + graphical resources into SWF files. Some of these apps are already being worked on, check this site out:
http://www.osflash.org/ - smiley2billion, on 10/12/2007, -1/+6just typing "wine" the first time sets up all the directories and whatnot.
- xose, on 10/12/2007, -1/+5Screenshots: http://appdb.winehq.org/screenshots.php?iAppId=23&iVersionId=3673
- bignate, on 10/12/2007, -3/+7Forgive me if I'm a little ignorant, but shouldn't you be able to run almost ANY Windows app inside Wine? A how-to-install-Wine tutorial seems appropriate, but all of these how-to-run-x-inside-of-wine seems a little overkill to me.
- Eddible, on 10/12/2007, -2/+6In all fairness, it hasn't been possible for ages. It's only now that the latest versions can run under WINE. Okay, maybe the title should have said about WINE but you know? It's a step in the right direction.
- shakin, on 10/12/2007, -1/+5If you have Windows running on the network (or running under VMWare Server in the background) you can use remote desktop and an app called seamlessrdp to do something similar to X forwarding to run the windows app directly on your Linux desktop.
Right now I have a desktop shortcut that executes 'rdesktop -A -s "c:seamlessrdpseamlessrdpshell.exe c:Program FilesMacromediaFlash 8Flash.exe" -u windowsusername -p mypass -k en-us -a 16 10.53.25.54'
That runs Flash 8 on the Windows server, but I don't have to see the Windows desktop, only the app running like it was in Wine, but with full compatibility and no font, widget ugliness.
Googling for 'seamlessrdp' should get you there. - simd, on 10/12/2007, -2/+6"The days of Windows are coming to an end by RUNNING WINDOWS inside Linux? RTFA."
It's not running Windows within Linux. It's running Wine, which is 100% non Miscosoft code and simply provides the widows API to applications that require it. - potentato, on 10/12/2007, -2/+5@airmann90: have you seen the code nvu generates? it's awful! and by awful, i mean "front page in 1997 awful". nvu may be the best wysiwyg alternative to dreamweaver available, but it's hardly a good alternative.
- dandiemer, on 10/12/2007, -1/+4best part is that blog used the Web 2.0 Logo generator.
- mouthster, on 10/12/2007, -2/+5"Anyone who calls themselves a "professional" and says they would rather use Dreamweaver to help with "productivity" is an idiot."
I couldn't disagree more. The built-in FTP, Site Manager and Template tools are extremely useful and time-saving. I'd be an idiot if I wasn't taking advantage of them.
Maybe I should just do all my clients sites in notepad using ASCII art, huh cool guy? - actionscripted, on 10/12/2007, -9/+12A better title: how to port your crappy web design practices to Linux!
No digg. Don't use Dreamweaver, and keep flash usage down to a minimum. - CircleFusion, on 10/12/2007, -1/+3@JamesWilson
"Aptana is NOT OPEN SOURCE."
Eh?
From their website - http://www.aptana.com/
"Free and open source licensed under the Eclipse Public License, v1.0. (Source available soon)" - straxus, on 10/12/2007, -2/+4But, i440, you are not the average user. There are quite a few people who don't have any idea what is involved with keeping virus and spyware definitions up-to-date, or how to avoid shady websites that do drive by installs, or how to avoid shady freeware programs that install all manner of evil doo-dads. All they want to do is look at websites, get email, listen to music, and watch porn. That last bit is what will usually get them in trouble. For these people, it's better that they switch to Ubuntu or OSX. Yes you and I can use Windows and avoid the pitfalls. But there is a disproportionate amount of people that cannot.
By the way, you really should write a how-to on trolling Digg. :D - meltingrobot, on 10/12/2007, -3/+5Geez, I have to bury like one a week of these articles. I'm sorry, but if it's ran under wine, put it in the freaking subject. How much you want to bet that it doesn't make front page that way since most people that digg it up are too lazy to read the article and find out.
- starsky51, on 10/12/2007, -1/+3It seems that every linux_unix article has at least one comment from i440, piping up about windows.
He's either a Microsoft shill or some kid going through puberty wanting to piss off strangers. - tomaszpw, on 10/12/2007, -2/+4This is great. Now I can finally switch my laptop to Ubuntu to go along with my desktop.
- seanmc303, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1@nocircleno
"Sorry to hear you had a defective copy of Windows. Mine works great!"
I did say M$ crap. I was referring to not only Windows, but all of their stuff. I have used plenty of Microsoft's software over the past 12 years and I can honestly say that a good chunk of it is crap. I love it when their app software won't work with their OS, or when their OS can't even install its own updates, or when it crashes randomly, or when it slowly bloats its self overtime and slows down, or when it disables its self for not being "Genuine", or when it gets the malware of the week, or when "BSOD", or when ...
My machine runs fine at home too, but I have had to service literally hundreds of other M$ machines and software. When people start to use software that isn't poo they realize what a lot of M$ software is... POO - Phocion55, on 10/12/2007, -2/+3How hard is it to change "use apt to install wine..." to "use your distro's package management system to install wine..." ??
Just that one change would make it a non-Ubuntu specific article, and we could all live in peace and harmony. - Aculeus, on 10/12/2007, -1/+2It tells you what files and registry keys you need specifically for Flash. This isn't 'install wine', 'copy over flash'. It has other details specific to Flash that will save anyone wanting to do this time from having to find what paths and reg keys to copy.
- SteveMax, on 10/12/2007, -3/+4Buried as lame for using "Ubuntu" instead of "any Linux distribution under the Sun". Seriously, can't a Linux story come to the first page without having "Ubuntu" on its title anymore?!
- veritech, on 10/12/2007, -1/+2nice idea, but's just as good as running it in VMware, which is what i do.
- JamesWilson, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1Source available soon is not the same as source available now. If they can't produce it, you're damn right i'm calling it closed source.
If its open source, then make with the code already. - midwinter, on 10/12/2007, -1/+2Just say no to WYSIWYG. Humanity will thank you.
- JamesWilson, on 10/12/2007, -3/+4Aptana is NOT OPEN SOURCE.
- Aculeus, on 10/12/2007, -1/+2They are talking about Flash (the Flash SWF authoring tool) not Flash Player.
- ConanTL, on 10/12/2007, -1/+2Currently only flash player 7 is available for Linux (which might cause some problems). The bigger problem is for those who use a 64 bit version of Linux. There is no version of Flash whatsoever for 64 bit. So you either have to use wine, or run the 32 bit version of flash on the 32 bit version of Firefox (which is what I'm trying to get working at the moment).
- gmillerd, on 10/12/2007, -2/+3Did you really have to read the article to know that? I mean stop your belly aching.
- wardriver20, on 10/12/2007, -2/+3http://bluefish.openoffice.nl/ - Beats all of the above. Clean fast and full-featured.
- colincornaby, on 10/12/2007, -1/+2"In Dreamweaver's case, there is NVU (http://www.nvu.com) developed for the Linux, MAC, and Windows platforms."
How come they somehow have a version for "Media Access Control"? You'd think they'd be more eager to make a Mac version... - benw, on 10/12/2007, -1/+1Did someone just call Dreamweaver "this awesome piece of software"? Can't be someone who actually develops for the web.
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -1/+1It was always available "soon"
- Haiyadragon, on 10/12/2007, -2/+2That is so stupid. Developers can choose any version number they want. No way does that reflect the maturity of the program. Case in point: Java is 1.5 to developers 5.0 to everyone else.
Not the good kind of stupid dude. - armbar, on 10/12/2007, -1/+1Haiyadragon, the point is that aptana isn't up to a version 1.0 release, while Dreamweaver's been around the game forever. In this case, version numbers most certainly do reflect the maturity of the two programs.
- wouaren, on 10/12/2007, -1/+1this is only a ad page with tips already known, everybody knows how to do it with wine and the title was'nt mentioning it, why ? to have more visitors on this ***** page.
- giociampa, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0Looks like a typo to me rather than a deliberate effort
- gmillerd, on 10/12/2007, -1/+1The term in X11 world is called rootless, seemlessRDP allows you to redisplay applications rootless (without the windowmanager / desktop) via RDP.
Under citrix this is even better as multiple ICA connections will join each other versus making new RPD connections. (So if you want to redisplay calc and solitare from the same machine you will only have one connection versus two with RPD --- which may not be possible) - Cablito, on 10/12/2007, -1/+1Obviously not a designer.
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -1/+1At this point these web 2.0 sites are just one big cliche after another... if you will allow me to be a bit redundant. This blog seems to have all of these web 2.0 cliches though. It gave me quite a chuckle. You've got your dime a dozen logo, the giant "PLEASE FOR THE LOVE OF GOD SYNDICATE ME!" rss button, 25 pixel plus margins on all sides, lack of content, awkwardly coded html (thank you frontpage), a tags section with text too small to comfortably read and a search box that is entirely too small. It's like he took a guide to proper interface design and wiped his ass with it.
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -1/+1The fact that something this simple to do on Windows is a popular headline when it works on Linux speaks about the useability of Linux.
- macewan, on 10/12/2007, -1/+1@lqqkout4elfy, we can't view the screencast on aptana.tv because the damn things are in Flash 8!
:-0 - inactive, on 10/12/2007, -1/+1Haiyadragon, it's flash player 9 (yes, to view flash, not to create)
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