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- fishbert, on 10/12/2007, -0/+10I swear I've seen FreeNAS on here about 10 times already...
...usually with comments of either:
a) wow, that's cool, or
b) using a whole computer for NAS is very inefficient. - BrainInAJar, on 10/12/2007, -1/+7Good, but when FreeBSD includes ZFS support ( fbsd 7 ) this will get a /whole lot/ cooler
- billessig, on 10/12/2007, -0/+6I just check the MAC address, it will tell me. You do have a valid point though.
- mike503, on 10/12/2007, -0/+6@drag
there is no "hype"
no other filesystem can scale that large. fact.
no other filesystem was designed properly to be pooled storage. only volume manager-based. fact.
no other filesystem can claim not only better-than-normal RAID behavior without hardware but also self-healing. fact.
soon will have encryption and secure deletion support. fact.
the only thing that it will not support (in it's current framework) is being cluster-aware.
name me some filesystems that support device failures. perhaps XFS+LVM2 or MD. but that's a filesystem + a volume manager. there's two layers there. ZFS broke down the barriers of this and moved to a completely coherent functional model. everything i've read, including real-life users has proven this. it's not vaporware or marketing bullcrap. it's not commercially-driven either, it's totally available to anyone for free.
if you don't believe that storage pools are the future just look at windows home server. even windows is moving towards that model even for SOHO stuff. - FuzzyCat, on 10/12/2007, -0/+5
From the FAQ:
"FreeNAS is Alpha or Beta, its not a production release and it will have bugs in it. It is YOUR risk if you load valuable data onto FreeNAS. Review the FreeNAS licence before working with FreeNAS." - urbancommando, on 10/12/2007, -0/+5Or decide for yourself. Plus not having to be redirected to another site first.
http://www.newegg.com/ProductSort/Subcategory.asp?Subcategory=3&name=Barebone-Computers - johnvm, on 10/12/2007, -1/+6For more, and better, screenshots of how easy to use FreeNAS is check out their site:
http://www.freenas.org/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=0&Itemid=0 - Mike89, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3Im just curious, but would this support FAT32? .. or NTFS?
- GMullen, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3The guys at http://www.hak5.org have a video tutorial on setting up a freenas box go check them out on digg's podcast page
- MichaelKJohnson, on 10/12/2007, -8/+11Also consider OpenFiler http://www.openfiler.com/ -- similar concept, different feature set, based on Linux.
- RobMackenzie, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3I've had a FreeNAS server running for about 6 months now. It has a nice feature set, and a decent interface. Great for just throwing files onto to serve to the house.
Only complaint is that it doesn't deal with permissions that well without going into terminal.
A whole computer for NAS is not that bad, especially if you are nearing a terabyte, and it does more then a little store bought enclosure with Ethernet, - Godspeed, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3i have freenas on my server and it runs great and its great at what it does hell it does windows file sharing better than windows it works great with my xbox (streaming video)
i just wish it had torrent support - Mike89, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2Thanks Rob.
- SVPirate, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2I'll drink to that! I want a NAS box for home but I'm torn between Solaris (which has a lack of hardware support for SATA controllers) and FreeNAS (which supports most stuff but has no ZFS)... If FreeNAS gets ZFS facilities I'll be there faster than you can say Network Attached Thingamajiggers
- RobMackenzie, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2It will support both, kinda.
Fat32 I've had it do, like when I've plugged in a USB drive or something (actually, I plugged in an Ipod once, and it able to share it)
NTFS it has trouble with, and won't show sub directories in SMB (a rather major setback)
It is pretty much meant to run UFS, FreeBSD's native file system. - geronimo, on 10/12/2007, -1/+3Just checked out http://www.openfiler.com/about/
Very, very sexy stuff.
Full iSCSI target support, with support for virtual iSCSI targets for optimal division of storage
Point-in-time snapshots support with scheduling - haastyle, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2I use freeNAS right now, I have it running on a 300mhz PII, runs great, works perfectly, never crashes.
- NiceBox, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2Easy storage for home networks is best achieved with an easy to setup and stable solution. Openfiler is HUGE and an overkill for sure. FreeNAS is beta and buggy. Don't waste your time and get NASLite. It will run on anything i486 and better and do a much better job as a home NAS even for the total novice.
- tenderstorm, on 10/12/2007, -2/+4"The connection was shown as "lan -> nve0", which is not the way you see Ethernet devices described in Linux. My guess is that in BSD-speak, the "nv" stands for an Nvidia driver for the network card, the e stands for Ethernet, and the 0 the device number. Not intuitive, perhaps, but not entirely cryptic, either."
Not intuitive? Try this: eth0, eth1, eth2, etc. guess which one one is Nvidia, Intel and Broadcom NIC?
"Nve" is driver name and "e" don't mean Ethernet FYI- you can read more information from "man nve" nve -- NVIDIA nForce Networking Adapter device driver... - daverave999, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2I used to use ClarkConnect about 4 or 5 years ago on a P166 as a router, firewall and file/web/email server on a 2 meg cable line. It was my first foray into linux territory and I was impressed. Whether it would still impress me now is another thing (I just don't know!), but it certainly performed the intended tasks impressively.
- nanboya, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1Out of curiosity, why "should" it be free? Judging from the interface and functionality in NASLite, it seems like they've put together a pretty polished product that they aren't charging enterprise prices for.
- nanboya, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1Openfiler does look good. Still reading through the docs to see if it supports hardware-based RAID though...
- slythfox, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1To true. It's been around for awhile now. It's had a lot of news coverage here, and other places.
I used to use freeNAS. Very nice and simple, but I found that it was missing some things, like being able to host http and stuff. Started to create my own fork, but because of time, it never worked out. I donated my improved admin panel layout, but it was never used. :(
Now I use debian, because even though I haven't set up filesharing, having http, sftp, and ssh is much better. And it was pretty easy to set it all up. - mike503, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1yeah.
i want ZFS like MAD. i am waiting for ZFS support before i start using one of these. hopefully eSATA+port multiplier support will be supported by freebsd soon (or linux, if linux gets proper ZFS support) - BassJunkie, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1I to have been using Freenas now since 0.65 (or thereabouts!) and have only had a few issues with it that seemed to be sorted by newer versions with bug fixes or looking on forums! I still get the occasional error, generally been when trying to burn files to DVD over the network, it reports the network resource is no longer available, although I have yet to work out wheather this was a problem with the NAS box or the computer doing the burning!
Looking forward to the newer versions and for anyone who want's to have a play with it without installing it onto a old PC check out the Freenas site for a VMWare Player image of a basic setup with a 100Mb RAID 5 array - monergism, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1This could prove useful. Now, if only to embedd into my NetCenter.
- migsims, on 10/12/2007, -1/+2If I'm going to use a full pc for a NAS, it better have a printer service running as well, I'm better off setting up a Ubuntu box running samba and print services than installing this.
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1I used Freenas and it seemed to wrok good. the only catch is the PC was running 24/7 - seemed to be a lot of power to use just for that. I recently bought a Buffalo NAS 500GB from Outpost.com. Have more options and it uses 1/6th of the power. I have all my wiring out in the garage and it sits there. Has been running for 31 days now with absolutely no problem.
- nograz, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1For something like that, it is just too much of a hassle.
It would be worth the money for the product rather than wasting my time not only trying to find it, but keeping up with updates. - philbrewer, on 10/12/2007, -1/+2I have a TB server that was ment to run FreeNAS, but it didn't like my hardware set-up and after too much wasted time it ended up being easier to go with a Windows Server 2003 set-up.
- cgreentx, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1Every heard of boot priority in your CMOS settings?
- nanboya, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1NASLite sounds very interesting; thanks for bringing up that option. However, in a small office/work environment (as a network admin), I'd still like to see some built in features such as Windows 2003 Shadow Copies. Setting up a massive data store for cheap is always nice, but in a multi-share environment, you really need to have provisions for either protecting the data or easily restoring it.
However, being able to set up a repository for limited access, mass data storage, this is a great tool to have. - cawpin, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1Yeah, no schitt. I was dumb enough to screw my laptop. I'll blame FreeNAS.
- nograz, on 10/12/2007, -1/+1There are just too many choices!
From what I have seen, I am not sure if any of these are going to exactly fit the bill for my needs.
I tried FreeNAS, seems like a good program, just not for what I need. The software RAID on FreeBSD is just too far behind its linux counter-part.
I plan on testing OpenFiler, to see if it will meet my needs.
I would try NASLite, but I don't feel like paying for something when it should be free.
I may have to stick to my plans of creating my own NAS like system based on TinyGentoo to specifically fit my needs. I probably should read up more on all the options out there, but that will just take up too much of my time, something that is in short supply. - dingledorph, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0Will i be able to install some sort of BT client on FreeNAS?
- timd, on 10/12/2007, -2/+2I've tried both FreeNAS and Openfiler, and had various problems with both. For some reason FreeNAS won't even install on the old box I'm currently using as a server.
In the end I chose http://www.clarkconnect.com/ which seems to do pretty much everything I needed out of the box. - sekyuritei, on 10/12/2007, -1/+1Openfiler looks cooler... If it's "powerful enough to be used in the enterprise", it needs to fully permissions/ACLs in an active directory environment. Still eager to check both out...
- johnmacd, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0I agree, I've been using NASLite-2 for about 4 months now, and it was easy to setup and it just works. The only downside that I can come up with, is that there is no security at all. But if you are in a home environment and just need to have more storage, this works great!
- jdoscher, on 10/12/2007, -1/+1FreeNAS is fine and works very well for basic setups. Unfortunately, do some googling on gmirror and the headaches people run into (and not any real documentation on recovery methods). Simply put, if you create a mirror set using FreeNAS' software mirror, good luck on getting ANY other OS to read it in case of failure. While a bit more detailed and a tad less user-friendly, take a look at OpenFiler... which happens to support iSCSI target as well.
- soyverde, on 10/12/2007, -1/+1Wow, thanks for the heads-up on openfiler, many more features (accounts management, LDAP, iSCSI, etc.).
- BrainInAJar, on 10/12/2007, -14/+14that's not a feature...
I trust FreeBSD orders of magnitude more than I trust linux.
Good job FreeNAS guys - jukit, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0infrant has a decent offering if you're willing to spend some $$:
http://www.infrant.com/ - allyourbasekris, on 11/03/2007, -2/+1Get yourselves an nslu2 (should be cheap by now)
Flash it with Unslung and you've got a small nas that can also run other progs. I use mine to bittorrent as well.
More details at www.nslu2-linux.org - peterjhill, on 10/12/2007, -4/+3Free? hardly...
If I am going to go through the trouble of setting up a server, I'll just set up an afs cell in my house. I have been thinking about getting some networked storage in my house to centralize my media library... What seems to be a more preferable solution is Apple's new airport extreme. I can plug a usb 2.0 hub into the back of it and connect multiple devices and I can mount the drives on my networked computer, either windows or mac.
I can see this as an interesting bit of software for people who have the time and space for a linux box and don't mind if it is on all the time. - sacherjj, on 10/12/2007, -2/+1Why? There is hardly any drive space in an XBox. You need a case that can take 3-4 drives for a decent RAID setup.
- Mike89, on 10/12/2007, -2/+1DIGG IS LYING TO YOU.
this story: http://www.digg.com/political_opinion/George_W_Bush_A_Very_Impeachable_President was on the front page a minute ago.
I can't find it through the search box,
It isn't in political news,
It isn't in political opinion,
It has ceased to exist.
Don;t believe me? Type in word from any front page article in to search box and search - it appears. Now type in any of the keywords from that link (george w bush, impeachable, president, etc) - it will not appear.
THIRD TIME IN A WEEK THAT STORIES HAVE "Dissapeared" Do Digg use the same voting system as the republicans?
I'm posting this everywhere. people. Complain - THEY ARE MESSING WITH THE VOTE!
I've also got a screenshot of the page - and I'll post it up, if they take the link off. They're probably gonna ban me for this - but they can go to hell if they think it's ok to lie to us and take away stories that are valid news. - gmg761, on 10/12/2007, -1/+0Porting this to an Xbox or similar small consumer device would be neat.
- NiceBox, on 10/12/2007, -1/+0NASLite-2 is way better, faster, more stable, and much cooler than FreeNAS or Openfiler.
Details here: http://www.serverelements.com
And some screencaps here: http://www.serverelements.com/naslite-2-cdd.php
If you want to turn your old PC into a usefully and dependable NAS that's the easiest way to do it. - apotropaic, on 10/12/2007, -3/+1Yes clark connect, check it out
- brentz0r, on 10/12/2007, -3/+1I personally haven't tried FreeNAS, but I have had much luck with NASLite 2 from Server Elements http://www.serverelements.com/ Not exactly free, but still cheap, and quite user friendly.
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