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- MrViklund, on 05/01/2008, -3/+99This is still going on?
- obijohn, on 05/01/2008, -2/+89FTA: "McBride attempted to reinforce his argument with analogy. 'When you go to the bookstore and look in the UNIX section, there's books on 'How to Program UNIX' but when you go to the Linux section and look for 'How to Program Linux' you're not gonna find it, because it doesn't exist.'"
Funny, a google search for "how to program UNIX" returns 10 results (with the linked article being one), but "how to program Linux" returns over 1,000.
What a maroon. - wonderchemist, on 05/01/2008, -1/+62Actually this is different. This case is Novell (who the court previously found to be the real owner of UNIX) suing SCO. Now if you remember Microsoft and Sun paid SCO royalties related to the use of UNIX code. Novell argues since SCO isn't the real owner of UNIX, SCO owes them those royalties. SCO agues that since Linux is a copy of UNIX, UNIX isn't all the valuable and the court should award Novell the the lowest monetary damages possible.
- dmcbride6, on 05/01/2008, -1/+62I suppose this would be a bad story for me to comment on?
- inactive, on 05/01/2008, -0/+53McBride seems to be of the opinion that if you tell a lie often enough it becomes the truth.
- Cycline3, on 05/01/2008, -2/+50A Ford is a copy of a Toyota because it achieves the same goals and runs on the same gas... isn't it obvious that Linux is a theft of UNIX?
- bitterg, on 05/01/2008, -0/+46I think the courts should be abel to recoup some of their costs from having to deal with cases perpetrated by idiots like McBride. It should be illegal to say ***** like that in court.
- felidaeus, on 05/01/2008, -0/+34Linux Is Not Unix
- floort, on 05/01/2008, -10/+39What, he's Republican?
- WolverineBlue, on 05/01/2008, -0/+27It actually IS illegal to lie in court. Since they're under oath, it falls under perjury.
- Tenlow, on 05/01/2008, -4/+27So he's a Republican then.
- Terasiel, on 05/01/2008, -0/+22...Who do you sue to stop Linux? Wouldn't that be like suing for the use of flash drives at this point?
- daradib, on 05/01/2008, -0/+21Wikipedia. If you lookup SCO, Unix, and GNU/Linux, etc. you will see articles which have even more links to other articles, some of which detail SCO's battles. A side note, GNU/Linux is another name for "Linux," which is more correct because it credits the operating system to not just the kernel (Linux), but the GNU Project as well, which has developed the largest portion of a GNU/Linux or "Linux" system.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Unix
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GNU/Linux
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GNU_project
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SCO_Group - Johnny1337h4x0r, on 05/01/2008, -0/+21I'm one of the people who knows very little about Linux, other than Ubuntu of course. Can someone please either explain or point out a website or something that would explain Unix/Linux in more detail so that I could laugh with the rest of the 1337s?
- spyd3rweb, on 05/02/2008, -0/+20code or it didn't happen
- SirKi11a1ot, on 05/02/2008, -1/+20In fact, GNU, which is everything except the kernel, stands for "GNU is Not Unix"
- kontraire, on 05/02/2008, -0/+19Darl McBride is scum. If I were a SCO shareholder, I'd be organizing a lynch mob right about now...
- gudnbluts, on 05/01/2008, -2/+20Linux shell commands, permissions and various other structures are based on Unix. I came to Linux from a Unix background and had to look up very little as most of the stuff I know works. Claiming "there is no difference" (to quote the article) is just plain wrong, but they have a huge overlap of similarity.
- inactive, on 05/01/2008, -0/+17It is very hard to prove whether such statements are lies or stupidity. If the latter, then it aint perjury.
- witcompe, on 05/01/2008, -0/+16Am I the only one surprised that K. Fed would be reading up on SCO vs Linux litigation?
- andrewtheart, on 05/02/2008, -0/+16What did you think Linus Torvalds's parents named him "Linus"?
** Linux Is Not Unix, Stupid ** - jcaino, on 05/01/2008, -7/+23No, he's a Clinton. Zing!
- papastout, on 05/01/2008, -2/+18Ummm, yeah - just like the incandescent light bulb is essentialy a copy of the wheel.
***** - PopcornDave, on 05/02/2008, -0/+15And Windows was based on Apple's products which were based on Xerox's so what's your point?
- inactive, on 05/01/2008, -4/+18lol, This is insanity. Still fighting? Isn't it time to ***** quit? You can't make money off of Linux, Get over it SCO.
- noseeme, on 05/02/2008, -1/+15To get a good understanding of how stupid these SCO lawsuits are, look up "SCO v. AutoZone"
Seriously, this ***** makes less sense than getting a single integer when you divide something by 0. - noseeme, on 05/02/2008, -0/+14They both have rounded parts.
See? SCO wins. - porl, on 05/02/2008, -0/+14yes, it was actually. it started as linus torvald's own personal implementation of unix compatible standards (minus the parts that he thought were wrong or could be done better). there is *no* code from unix that he used to 'build linux on top of' or whatever you are implying
- noseeme, on 05/02/2008, -0/+14Either you don't know much about the early history of Linux, or you need to look up the definition of the word "derived".
- Atomic1fire, on 05/02/2008, -0/+13Yeah it was
There would not be any Toyota if there were not any fords
Henry ford made for first cheap car which indirectly caused a market for cars that everyone uses with multiple brands
Of course there would not be a linux
If there was no Unix then There would have been no need for a free unix like os - cmdrNacho, on 05/02/2008, -0/+13whats new .... upper management not having any clue of what the technology there company is involved with.
- yodaj007, on 05/02/2008, -0/+13You're the one spreading FUD. Unless you care to substantiate your claims? Sun bought licenses to SVR4, not some drivers. Stop posting without knowing your material.
- Proneguy, on 05/02/2008, -0/+12It's a Bugs Bunny quote: http://www.barbneal.com/wav/ltunes/Bugs/Bugs34.wav
- theaceoffire, on 05/02/2008, -0/+12Go look it up again.
- secrity, on 05/02/2008, -2/+14Actually, Toyota copied Ford. For many of the features that are found in every car, everybody copied Cadillac.
- mjPayne, on 05/02/2008, -0/+12I second that. It's not easy to write a compiler as complex as GCC. Even if you have the skill, it take years to research and code a compiler for so many CPUs and systems as GCC. Hats off to RMS and others that made Linux what is is today. And truth be told, I think if GCC was not available when Linux wrote his first kernel then Linux would have remained just an academic exercise.
- Ademan, on 05/02/2008, -0/+11Bad news, GNU userland is the best userland around. Try going to another *nix and you suddenly realize all of your GNU extensions to your favorite tools are gone (heck, FreeBSD and probably the rest of the family, has recognized the importance and ubiquity of GNU userland and has made a point to copy their features as often as possible/makes sense)
- TheThirdLevel, on 05/01/2008, -1/+11I'm going to make a company called "E" and then I will call any company ending with "e" a copy!
- mikeivanov, on 05/02/2008, -0/+10Hey, have you _ever_ heard about POSIX?
- theaceoffire, on 05/02/2008, -0/+10Selling support.
- noseeme, on 05/02/2008, -0/+10I can't believe this SCO ***** is still going on. I wouldn't be surprised if someone discovered that SCO is just a front operation created by Microsoft (HINT HINT).
- noseeme, on 05/02/2008, -0/+10Well, Linux was actually coded from the ground up to be a functional replacement program for certain UNIX functionalities. So, a copy? Not really.
- linuxpenguin, on 05/02/2008, -0/+10I laughed at this: "When asked, 'Is there any UnixWare code in Linux?' the answer was, 'There very well could be, [...] I've never done that analysis, never seen that analysis.'" So basically he's saying: "I hope so and we wanted to make a buck by saying so, but I never looked even though I should've."
I bet that would fly over real well in real-world situations:
"Did you understand the homework?" "I don't know, maybe - I think I do. I never looked at it."
"Okay, so do you understand our goals for next quarter?" "Probably. I didn't listen to what they were, but I think so." - dmcbride6, on 05/02/2008, -0/+9Same first initial and last name :/ depressing isnt it?
- dacheetah, on 05/02/2008, -0/+9lmao. Only super power... Ok.
Jesus Christ some american's are arrogant. - Atomic1fire, on 05/02/2008, -1/+10Hence the term Unix Like
- spritom, on 05/02/2008, -0/+9You're just a copy of Darl McBride!
or are you the "other brother Darl?" - Darkhacker, on 05/02/2008, -1/+10It doesn't real matter who you pick. Our congress is full of *****. It just happens to be divided in to two piles, Republican and Democrat. The average voter is a complete ***** moron. We go in alternating cycles of who has the house majority because when the Republicans ***** up, people are under some delusions belief that the other pile of ***** is going to make it all better. Then the reverse happens, Dems ***** up, Reps elected. They both suck. They pick a side before hearing or understanding the issue instead of rationally thinking about each issue individually (Independent) and coming to a logical conclusion. They rather have a circle jerk with other members of their party.
- inactive, on 05/02/2008, -0/+8I meant SCO can't make money off of Linux, or at least with this approach. Didn't mean you can't sell Linux (well physically anyways) or support for it.
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