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- vagrantwade, on 10/10/2007, -17/+148Thank god, I was worried Digg was going to run out of stories on Ubuntu.
- schroeder, on 10/10/2007, -9/+79It starts...
- admirabumblebee, on 10/10/2007, -12/+50So uhh, what kind of non-news is that? They didn't name anyone. He didnt even say he was in talks with anyone... He was just enthusiastic.
Duh, forgot. Ubunutu was in the title. Sorry, I didn't realize. - warriorscot, on 10/10/2007, -4/+41Beats another apple fanboy story any day of the week.
- schestowitz, on 10/10/2007, -4/+31Here we go. Who didn't see *THAT* coming?
- gfnw, on 10/10/2007, -2/+25Add/Remove programs? What's that? Click it? What with? What's a mouse? Wait, so you're telling me that by applying pressure to this device with my left finger, I can interact with things on the screen? Surely you are pulling my leg!
- wofldibofl, on 10/10/2007, -2/+23yeah, block digg.com ^_^
- mightyzug, on 10/10/2007, -0/+15you might get your choice of pre-installed distro AFTER the success of pre-installed ubuntu... till then let's keep it simple.
- reticulate, on 10/10/2007, -1/+13Yeah, in your profile.
- Aitese, on 10/10/2007, -0/+11It leaves them with more hardware and third party software out there that has Linux support. It also leaves them needing to make their install process as easy as is humanly possible so that switching is no biggie...that can only be good for choice and the end user
- pyrotix, on 10/10/2007, -2/+13CONFIRMED: Including "Ubuntu" and at least one word in caps will guarantee a front page story
- manicallday, on 10/10/2007, -4/+15I'm kind of skeptical about the proposed market share of Linux. Although I'm not suggesting that it's anything as significant as Windows, I do think it's greater that what's popularly believed. The problem is that the traditional methods of determining market share doesn't apply to Linux. It's just impossible to keep track of. However, there's no denying that the community is huge.
I find it easier to find support for most of my Linux issues, even with Mandroiva, than I did with windows. Also, if it's possible to put Linux on a piece of hardware then I guarantee somebody will do it. Similar to the Linksys DD-WRT hacks. The problem is that nobody knows how to take advantage of this. I have always felt that manufactures should be more focused on producing good hardware rather than worrying about software. Especially when there's a community willing to write the software for you. Just concentrate on building the best possible piece of hardware and spare me the cost of software that I'm not going to use.
- GMorgan, on 10/10/2007, -3/+13Yes but he said 'absolutely' meaning that it it going to happen but they don't have all the details down yet. It also points out that the Dell machines have been a huge hit thus far. This is backed up by Dells actions in expanding their line and confirming they will bring their range to the rest of the world as soon as they can.
It's working, we've always maintained that pre-installation is the biggest advantage MS has and now we are getting some of that advantage ourselves the machines are selling. The trolls and various cereal box MSCE's don't like it and will moan all the way but who gives a crap about them in any case. - bobbagoose, on 10/10/2007, -1/+10http://blog.wired.com/monkeybites/2007/07/more-big-name-p.html
- Phocion55, on 10/10/2007, -5/+13Or just point him in the direction of the Ubuntu wiki or Freenode chatroom.
Also, free Ubuntu training classes:
http://www.digg.com/linux_unix/Starting_the_Ubuntu_Training_Community - mangaskahn, on 10/10/2007, -2/+9If you block those, all you'll get is "The blankiest blank you've blanked all blank...EVAR"
- mightyzug, on 10/10/2007, -2/+9we all knew this was coming....
also nothing is 'CONFIRMED' ... if you RTFA "Some say Lenovo, some say Toshiba --but at this point it's all speculation." - NerveBand, on 10/10/2007, -3/+10Though I'm still curious as to HP's offering. HP has a great computer hardware line up and with linux on board, if they ever did, I am guaranteed I would buy from them first.
- jlebrech, on 10/10/2007, -2/+8OMG Mark Shuttleworth is turning into Steve Jobs with all those anouncements.
- degoba, on 10/10/2007, -2/+8This is cool and all but Linux has always been about freedom of choice. Where does this leave Fedora, Suse, Gentoo, Slackware etc. etc.
- cloudyprison, on 10/10/2007, -4/+10BREAKING: This is awesome!
- thephosphorbox, on 10/10/2007, -2/+8I don't get it. Why is it always Ubuntu VS Windows? If you're talking about putting Ubuntu out into the global marketplace as a serious competitor, isn't it really Ubuntu VS Windows & Mac??
Apple HAS all the consumer-friendly convenience features that Windows does, and they do what they do very well. They have a large user community, hardware, software.. the whole nine yards. Why does no one EVER mention Ubuntu VS Mac??
It's like Toyota putting out a new car and saying, "Oh, don't worry Chevy, we're not after your market share. We're only competing with Ford!". - jakethecake, on 10/10/2007, -0/+6permalink FTW!
- TomFrost, on 10/10/2007, -0/+5Welcome to the technology section, where we talking about innovations and directions taken in technology. Ubuntu and Mac OS X are not only improving themselves at a rapid rate, but the next version of OS X is on the horizon and Ubuntu is gaining popularity like crazy. Therefore, we're going to talk about them in the technology section. You calling anyone who's interested in these topics a "fanboy" isn't going to make anyone change what they like and enjoy hearing about. If you're *not* interested in popular topics in the field of technology, then here's an idea: Stop reading this section.
- Hamflank, on 10/10/2007, -2/+6CONFIRMED: This is indeed awesome.
- Garfunkel, on 10/10/2007, -4/+8Of course he doesn't list the companies, the deal is not set in stone and if he said something foolish it would be a PR disaster.
I hope HP and Asus are on the list though, they will both make a huge impact. - marx2k, on 10/10/2007, -0/+4Windows OEM preinstalls come with documentation and training?
- DJDark, on 10/10/2007, -1/+5It's sad but there are people that really are that stupid
- Langford, on 10/10/2007, -0/+4You can't expect every flavor of Linux to be offered and supported by a PC manufacturer. There are just too many of them. Having Ubuntu offered means that if you want to install your favorite distro, it will probably work just as well. It would be true even if it were some other distro being offered instead of Ubuntu.
- estvir, on 10/10/2007, -5/+9It's only freedom of choice if you choose what the general mass likes.
Openly prefer OpenSuse to Ubuntu? Be prepared to be buried.
Openly prefer Opera to FF? Be prepared to be buried.
And so on. - theholycow, on 10/10/2007, -0/+4You stole my username.
You bastard! - wofldibofl, on 10/10/2007, -5/+9won't happen, even if ubuntu dies, digg will continue with the stories.
- jdhore1, on 10/10/2007, -0/+4As TomFrost said, here we talk about innovations and new directions in the tech community. Lately, Microsoft hasn't been innovating, they've just been trying to copy Mac OS X and Linux. Mac and Linux however ARE making massive innovations and as Gary Winston said "Those Who Fail To Innovate Are Doomed To Die." If you want to see stories that are not bashing Microsoft, call them up and tell them to make some sort of innovation in Vista SP1 or Windows 7.
- Fartag, on 10/10/2007, -0/+3Yeah and one day you'll awaken to sentient Ubuntus running freely in the streets all over the world. "My god, why didn't anybody tell me this was happening!?" you'll exclaim. Suddenly you'll remember all those years ago to that "harmless" click that hid all the important Ubuntu news. By then it'll be too late, the Ubuntus will be everywhere and you'll clearly not be prepared for it.
- cmp1988, on 10/10/2007, -0/+3This is incredible news for all Linux enthusiasts alike. Even though I'm a PCLOS user, suppport for Ubuntu from the major PC manufacturers means better hardware compatibility for all.
- Misfitpierce, on 10/10/2007, -1/+4Excellent news... Long live ubuntu
- Spr0k3t, on 10/10/2007, -0/+3Yeah, it's really really really hard to get Beryl installed. Especially now that Beryl is in the repos, boy is it difficult. (/sarcasm)
- stmiller, on 10/10/2007, -3/+6CONFIRMED: We do not like the annoying 'CONFIRMED' 'BREAKING' 'ANNOUNCED' etc headlines. FTLOD (for the love of digg) please stop!
- tehbored, on 10/10/2007, -0/+3"Ubuntu must play on its strengths..." So, it must play on pretty much everything except the the fact that there are barely any good games to play on it. Considering it wins in pretty much everything else :)
- knightboat, on 10/10/2007, -1/+4Then it's really not CONFIRMED.
- jdhore1, on 10/10/2007, -0/+3I COMPLETELY agree. The point is not that we have to get Fedora, Suse, Slack, Gentoo, etc to the masses, the point is that we have to get ANY linux distro to the masses...It doesn't matter which one as long as the idea's getting through. Dell (the worlds largest PC manufacturer) going Ubuntu was a HUGE step and I believe them and their sales numbers of Ubuntu machines are what's gonna push all the other manufacturers to offering linux. Also, i'm sure if these companies start offering more than just Ubuntu, they'd probably go with the "big 3" meaning: Ubuntu, Suse and Fedora. However, with Dell's offering (and this may have changed since i last looked) you have to go to Dell.com/open for the Ubuntu machines...you can't get it from just going to dell.com
- moocow1452, on 10/10/2007, -0/+3...with one.
- TomFrost, on 10/10/2007, -1/+4Generally.. Yeah, that's how it goes. Windows is the only mainstream OS available that's not UNIX based. It's the only one that gets viruses, adware, and spyware in the wild. It's the only one with constant stability and security issues. It's the only one that's released updates that took thousands of computers offline because of a "minor oversight". It's the only one that actively pushes inferior software (mainly, IE) on the public and infuriates the developers who are trying to *help* the platform. If you move away to Mac or Linux, you generally get all the same benefits -- not having to deal with the above. Because really, that's the best selling point Mac and Linux have. If you know enough to switch, then you're going to know enough to see the differences between Mac and Linux and pick whichever one suits you more. So switching between the two is normally not an issue. At home, I use both Mac and Linux, and they both have things they do much better than the other.
- horizontaleight, on 10/10/2007, -0/+3I think anything mentioning a "fanboy" is the worst.
- Bicep, on 10/10/2007, -1/+4Here's a place to make the suggestion to HP's CEO:
http://www.hp.com/hpinfo/execteam/email/hurd/index.html
I submitted this:
Dear Mr. Hurd,
I would like to make some suggestions for a new line of hp products that would be pre-installed with Ubuntu Linux.
My current employment is as a Network Administrator in Seattle and we are primarily an hp end-user based shop.
We use your hp products in notebook/desktop form for our core business everyday.
We also use your products for use with SuSE SLED 10 Linux and have been mostly satisfied with the pentium machine Linux support. (We had a weird thing with the restore partition still squawking for input on startup even though the restore partition was erased with the Linux installation but a simple MBR editor took care of that problem).
So the reason I've explained all this is to outline that our company is a mixed Operating System shop.
I myself (and countless others out there (e.g., digg.com/view/technology)) truly believe that the time has come for there to actually be a true competitor to the Windows end-user machine out there. The Vista operating system has pretty much sealed the argument for there to be another choice for consumers.
Competition makes great products. Competition will help to make the next Windows end-user operating system better. I know this is true because I've seen Dell and HP switch back and forth for the #1 spot in consumer PC sales and in my heart, you're both great companies.
Dell now offers Ubuntu (and has expanded from 2 to 4 offered systems) and this, I believe, gives them significant competition points over other companies out there.
So because I think HP would do a really good job with it, I would like to strongly and heartily suggest that HP offer pre-installed systems with Ubuntu Linux.
If you would offer the Ubuntu Linux on your HP systems - you're ratings would explode on digg.com.
This is the age of user-choice, so companies that don't offer an alternative to the Monopoly of Windows are going to lose in the end.
Thanks for listening and understanding and again, Thanks for your great products and services.
Sincerely,
Mr. Shannon VanWagner
Also, hp talks about Linux on this page:
http://h20271.www2.hp.com/SMB-AP/cache/416489-0-0-131-121.html?jumpid=em_my1to1_sotoct/article - Mithrander, on 10/10/2007, -0/+3Dell made an amazingly smart move and now they are cashing in. Good for them and good for Ubuntu/Open Source...
- Spr0k3t, on 10/10/2007, -0/+3This isn't rumor, or speculation. Rumor would be something along the lines of "IBM is going to release Ubuntu machines August 1st." When the 1st rolls around and no Ubuntu based systems are available from IBM, the rumor is debunked. Speculation states specific numbers of companies involved offering systems with Ubuntu installed for the consumer. This isn't the first time he has said this either. Previously, he stated Canonical was talking with other vendors but nothing was set in stone. Now it's set in stone, but due to contractual agreements, he can't say who, how many, or what specifics there are about the deal. Just that there is a deal.
- cyssero, on 04/18/2009, -0/+3Exactly, he didn't announce anything and there's still hype about it.
- darundal, on 10/10/2007, -2/+5I wonder if this means that companies are going to start actually taking the time to train support people for supporting the OS on systems with Ubuntu. Right now, you go to the dell ubuntu page and configure a machine, when you get to the OS it offers you Ubuntu four different times, one with no support, and the other three with various periods of support and large numbers attached.
- inactive, on 10/10/2007, -0/+2More competiton can only be a good thing, both for Ubuntu and for Windows and Mac OSX. I just did my first dual boot install of Windows XP pro and Ubuntu, and I was amazed at how far it had advanced since the last time I messed around with Linux. (I think it was Red Hat when it was still making desktop releases.) Go Ubuntu!
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