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- mv36, on 10/12/2007, -2/+19Kerala is the state with the highest literacy rate in India....
- behn1220, on 10/12/2007, -5/+22@diggywiggit
How many times has someone posted "How many times has this been on front page?" or something very similar?
DAMN. - i440, on 10/12/2007, -1/+16"Are there any big software companies that do freely publish their source code?"
Mozilla - RonaldLewis, on 10/12/2007, -8/+22Indeed, if it happens, it would be another testament to the strength of open source software. As I've been noting lately, even Microsoft will be forced -- at some point -- to fully embrace the open source model across their various businesses and software. It's the future of software development, IMO.
- cmilki, on 10/12/2007, -3/+13What's worse, You assuming we all use unlicensed versions of Windows or people like you existing on this earth.
I don't get it Why is Digg so Anti-Indian.
During the Cola ban in India a few accused us of doing it to hamper American Corporations. Cola sales are declining anyway in India. Scientific tests have revealed they do contain pesticides.
Racist comments about Tech Support. Maybe if your businessmen spent a bit more, they can get their customers better support.
Now this, Wake up This isn't the 20th Century India anymore (Ofcourse the West was responsible for its poor economic state then). The Youngest Nuclear Power, On the road to become the 3rd Largest Economy by the end of the year. All while remaining in sanctions for more than half of our independent (after 1947) lifetime.
About the less than $2 a day (Many people in India live on less than $2 a day). $2 = almost 100 Rupees (it's around 92). 100 * 30 = 3000 Rupees. This happens to be a lot in India and a family live pretty comfortably with it.
Either learn about Indian History, Culture and current economic state or please refrain yourself from making stupid comments like this. - pintomp3, on 10/12/2007, -1/+10mizniq: over 90% is saying a lot.
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -4/+12Here's my little Open Source proliferation story for anyone who cares to read it, because I like telling it. My company [of which I am now the sole IT guy for now] wanted to save money/time/resources. So I said "Let's just put Linux on our sales computers" [Yes, I know, GNU Linux Distribution, but I was talking to . . . management] and I ended up putting Xubuntu with a couple additional apps onto our new systems and we're slowly transitioning to an Open Source powered sales department. Yeah!
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -4/+11They are so far ahead of the usa, here, people still use AOL as an ISP hahaha, how can those people ever make it to linux, they can hardly use windows
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -0/+6heh MS only sells to US and Europe...
in most countries people's annual (or half of it) income would barely pay for a windows license. infact I don't think it would. - neotheone011, on 10/12/2007, -1/+7There are 3.22 millions of Indians in USA (1.5% of population) . YET,
38% of doctors in USA are Indians.
12% scientists in USA are Indians.
36% of NASA scientists are Indians.
34% of Microsoft employees are Indians.
28% of IBM employees are Indians.
17% of INTEL scientists are Indians.
13% of XEROX employees are! Indians.
Some of you guys proved why US has to hire Indians to do the IQ requiring jobs. - akshay626, on 10/12/2007, -1/+6"I would be surprised if more then 100 people in Kerala could afford Windows to begin with.."
I was born in kerala, and you would be suprised. In the past couple years, there has been a huge technological boom in India.
"Kerala is the state with the highest literacy rate in India...."
"which isn't saying that much"
It has a 100% literacy rate which happens to be more than any state in the USA - Robyr, on 10/12/2007, -4/+9Wow, that was quite the bigotted comment. India is not third world, and they are quickly beginning to run circles around the US in tech fields. Not to mention, its not the fact that just India is switching, but that it sets the example that it can be done and that there is no need to survive on expensive *proprietary* software. India is a good example of how proactive government can change alot of social issues. So take you bigotry elsewhere, you *****.
- milkmage, on 10/12/2007, -1/+6@trollick and getrealnow
what are you implying? that there are no computers in India..? you need to read more. I find your comments borderline racist and basically ingnorant. most major US technology firms have operations in either India or China (and I'm not talking about call centers). Get a clue. - Khilona, on 10/12/2007, -0/+4If I were accept that guy's statement about a handful of computers in india, it would seem ALL the Indians are pretty active in Digg.
@warnetgt, does anyone pay you to make to make such dumb racist comment? Or are you really that dumb? Try googling for Microsoft India and have a look. Perhaps you actually think that Microsoft has put up centers in India just to cater for those 5 legal copies you think are in distribution
Do us all a favour and turn your computer off - cliffzdude, on 10/12/2007, -1/+5This really has little to nothing to do with Linux vs. Windows.
RTFA: "...the announcement appears to have more to do with politics than anything else..."
Note the political party that has chosen to leave the Wintel world is "Led by the Communist Party of India - Marxist..." - Khilona, on 10/12/2007, -0/+4@beotch
You deleted that comment. Anyway, here's my take on your comment on our Caste system
Yea! Caste system does exist in India. While you were busy killing the American Indians, we were dividing up the community based on needs. Each person had a certain job ot duty to perform. A brahmin was supposed to be the medium to God. A kshtriya was supposed to fight when needed. A Vaishya was supposed to do business and last caste was supposed to take care of cleanliness.
Though that shouldn't have carried on to this era, unfortunately, it has.. and will for some time.
But we don't nuke innocent civilians and then go for war against another complaining that they are making one - Voodooengine, on 10/12/2007, -4/+7Great to see the world opening up to open source.
For those of you who are making comments like this..
""population of around 28 million"? So what are we talking about here, 10, maybe 20 computers?"
Shut the ***** up. First of all India is the country that has been most hit by terrorism. Secondly we have had to fight over 5 war, and are still being bombed everyday by terrorist. We happen to be in the middle of 3 countries who just so happen to have nuclear weapons. In addition 150 years of GDP was sucked out in over 50 years, and we have had retarded ass leaders before, and we still have some now.
Hold you ***** comments to yourself you dumb *****. - cmilki, on 10/12/2007, -1/+4@ mizniq, then Why did Bill Gates announce Windows in 11 native Indian Languages ?
Google Bill Gates + India or Microsoft + India and it's you'll be amazed.
A Windows License happens to be 1000 Rupees in India (Around 20 Dollars). This is the Microsoft suggested price, I'm assuming it would be a lot less in stores. - Promantarius, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3I'm curious, why do you and the others here get so defensive about naive comments? I'm more inclined to simply dismiss them as uninformed, you guys seem to wish to attack them though. I'm not quite sure I understand the reason behind this hostility; while they perhaps insulted you slightly (they could've said far worse things), there's no reason to stoop to their level and insult them back.
- cmilki, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3@ beotch, This is what I'm talking about. I personally haven't met a single one who still believes in them all my life.
USA complains BJP is racist. Then why do we have many of "lower caste" leaders.
Has a Women ever been President in USA in 200+ years, Has a Minority ever won Presidency in USA.
The Answer NO.
Indira Gandhi was a Female Prime Minister. We've had 3 Muslim Presidents (although India is 80%+ Hindu). Is that enough ? - Irco, on 10/12/2007, -3/+6@internetworld7
are you laughing about you own comment? ..becasue you should - inactive, on 10/12/2007, -1/+4Ubuntu
- Lobster, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3India will become smarter. Good luck to them :)
Smart people use Open Source.
"The Codebreakers was aired on BBC World TV during May 2006. It investigates how poor countries are using FOSS applications for development, and includes stories and interviews from around the world. A 40-minute version of The Codebreakers is now available for free download online."
http://www.apdip.net/news/fossdoc - cmilki, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2Vooodoo it's literally useless to convince people about India. People are either heavily disillusioned or blatantly racist about India. Not to mention the America centric idiots at Digg.
- heyitsme23, on 10/12/2007, -1/+3way to go, open source is great. I just learned php (open source) and mysql (open source) and modded a version of zencart (open source) for an online store and point of sale.
- heyitsme23, on 10/12/2007, -4/+6whats your reasoning on this?
- MacParrot, on 10/12/2007, -1/+3How is the political leanings of the two parties relevant to whether or not they use Windows or Linux? I see it as less an issue of politics as economics. With the caste system still firmly in place in India (yes I have been there..to New Delhi anyway), most people who can afford a computer probably can't afford fully licensed MS software.
India has made great strides to escape the shadow of being a third world country. While I question their commitment to peace in the region (having fought multiple wars and major to minor border skirmishes with China and Pakistan) and whether they can keep their nuclear bombs safe and unused, they could be a country destined for great things if world events allows. They have a literate and educated (except for the lowest castes) population that with the right incentives could take open source software to the next level of adoption.
cmilki, you can't blame the West for all the problems that India had in the 20th century. Massive state sponsored corruption and a system geared toward the already well-off had quite a bit to do with it as well. Nationalizing the state's manufacturing reduced finished goods output that they are only now getting over. Add in border disputes with Pakistan over Khasmir and problems with Bangladesh and China (along with massive over-population) didn't help either.
Certainly the West had their fair share of the blame, but to make a blanket statement like that is unfair.
I wish them the best of luck with this experiment. More choices always means better services in the long run for everyone. - rotten777, on 10/12/2007, -2/+4@lustre
Microsoft cannot sell something that is able to be had at equal value but for free (or close to it).
If Ford was able to make a car just as good as a Corvette, but it only costs $5000, there's no way Chevrolet would be able to continue making money off the Corvette at 10 times the cost.
If Linux/BSD/Debian/etc. continue to meet and surpass peoples expectations and standards, it will gain more ground in the world of computing. I use world there because the United States isn't the only place that needs an operating system and not many countries want their government's offices or commerce powerhouses running off American (or any foreign) product. It subtracts from their taxing and welfare. - inactive, on 10/12/2007, -1/+3any source on this ?
- SVPirate, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2Another major market bites the dust, and Microsoft have done... nothing? Oh well - the world will move on and they won't, one day.
- MacParrot, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2Voodooengine,
My only comment to cmilki was along the lines of his statement that the west was to blame for India's problems. I called him on it and he replied in a civil tone that he was referring to issues dealing with colonization which is certainly a valid point. The rest of the comments made by me were certainly valid and as I said, India has made great strides in escaping the third-world tag and they are deserving of praise for having done so.
Please don't equate me or my comments with the blantently offensive remarks by others. - cmilki, on 10/12/2007, -2/+4Secondly USA ignored terrorism for 30 years and supports Pakistan (main nation responsible for terrorism against India) so got get a life...
We've put under sanctions for every single thing.
Read about the 1971 Indo-Bangladeshi War to see what USA did when we liberated a nation and gave them democracy.
I don't agree we have dumb leaders (atleast not so many compared to other nations). Our leaders in Assembly and Parliament are retards while PMs and CMs do a good job.
150 Years, more like 300 (British East India Company was in India in 1604 or around that time)
Besides your (GrayOne) precious USA never offered to help India gain freedom either, no matter how many times Gandhi petitioned. - justahuman, on 10/12/2007, -0/+101. India never invaded any country in her last 1000 years of history.
02. India invented the Number system. Aryabhatta invented ‘zero.’
03. The world’s first University was established in Takshila in 700BC. More than 10,500 students from all over the world studied more than 60 subjects. The University of Nalanda built in the 4th century BC was one of the greatest achievements of ancient India in the field of education.
04. According to the Forbes magazine, Sanskrit is the most suitable language for computer software.
05. Ayurveda is the earliest school of medicine known to humans.
06. Although western media portray modern images of India as poverty striken and underdeveloped through political corruption, India was once the richest empire on earth.
07. The art of navigation was born in the river Sindh 5000 years ago. The very word “Navigation” is derived from the Sanskrit word NAVGATIH.
08. The value of pi was first calculated by Budhayana, and he explained the concept of what is now known as the Pythagorean Theorem. British scholars have last year (1999) officially published that Budhayan’s works dates to the 6th Century, which is long before the European mathematicians.
09. Algebra, trigonometry and calculus came from India. Quadratic equations were by Sridharacharya in the 11th Century; the largest numbers the Greeks and the Romans used were 106 whereas Indians used numbers as big as 1053.
10. According to the Gemmological Institute of America, up until 1896, India was the only source of diamonds to the world.
11. USA based IEEE has proved what has been a century-old suspicion amongst academics that the pioneer of wireless communication was Professor Jagdeesh Bose and not Marconi.
12. The earliest reservoir and dam for irrigation was built in Saurashtra.
13. Chess was invented in India.
14. Sushruta is the father of surgery. 2600 years ago he and health scientists of his time conducted surgeries like cesareans, cataract, fractures and urinary stones. Usage of anaesthesia was well known in ancient India.
15. When many cultures in the world were only nomadic forest dwellers over 5000 years ago, Indians established Harappan culture in Sindhu Valley (Indus Valley Civilisation).
16. The place value system, the decimal system was developed in India in 100 BC. - reda, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1except in ubuntu you open synaptic (the program installer)
you check the nvidia package from the list
you click ok.
you click ctrl+alt+backpace (to logout) and you login again
No look into website, no download exe, no reboot, nothing. - justahuman, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1Quotes about India
"We owe a lot to the Indians, who taught us how to count, without which no worthwhile scientific discovery could have been made."
Albert Einstein
"India is the cradle of the human race, the birthplace of human speech, the mother of history, the grandmother of legend and the great grand mother of tradition."
Mark Twain
"If there is one place on the face of earth where all dreams of living men have found a home from the very earliest days when man began the dream of existence, it is India."
French scholar Romain Rolland
"India conquered and dominated China culturally for 20 centuries without ever having to send a single soldier across her border."
Hu Shih (Former Chinese ambassador to USA) - cmilki, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1Third Richest Man is Laxmi Mittal (Owner of Mittal Steel, now Mittal-Arcelor, World's Largest Steel Corp by far. Also has World's costliest house and his daughters wedding was the most lavish in terms of money spent)
BTW, Mittal is Indian too. :) - Robyr, on 10/12/2007, -2/+3Those numbers do not equal third world. I think you have a problem with progress, to be honest. The Indian people are very well educated, and while they have the riff raff (you'd be ignorant to think the US or Europe doesnt have their own) the literacy rate is rediculously high. I work at a medium sized computer OEM here in the US, and every Indian I come into contact with (in Greenville, SC there is a large Indian community) has been extremely intelligent and level headed. I hope to the Gods that our children don't share your views on world progress. My opinon still stands.
- Fordi, on 10/12/2007, -3/+4It's fun to watch people go, "La La La La La, I'm not listening, you hippies! La La La La La!"
- reda, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1the don't care ? where was tha lastest imagine cup again ? where is microsoft outsourcing heavily these days ?
anyway just type microsoft+india in googlr to see how interested microsoft is - justahuman, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1Who is the co-founder of Sun Microsystems?
Vinod Khosla
Who is the creator of Pentium chip (needs no introduction as 90% of the today’s computers run on it)?
Vinod Dahm
Who is the third richest man on the world?
According to the latest report on Fortune Magazine, it is AZIM PREMJI, who is the CEO of Wipro Industries. The Sultan of Brunei is at 6th position now.
Who is the founder and creator of Hotmail (Hotmail is world’s No.1 web based email program)?
Sabeer Bhatia
Who is the president of AT & T-Bell Labs (AT & T-Bell Labs is the creator of program languages such as C, C++, Unix to name a few)?
Arun Netravalli
Who is the new MTD (Microsoft Testing Director) of Windows 2000, responsible to iron out all initial problems?
Sanjay Tejwrika
Who are the Chief Executives of CitiBank, Mckensey & Stanchart?
Victor Menezes, Rajat Gupta, and Rana Talwar. - mv36, on 10/12/2007, -4/+5This is what makes me proud to be a mallu !!!!
- Seiesnalli, on 10/12/2007, -1/+2What does left leaning really have to do with it?
- reda, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1"A Windows License happens to be 1000 Rupees in India (Around 20 Dollars). This is the Microsoft suggested price, I'm assuming it would be a lot less in stores."
Yeah I think we all noticed how much microsoft is interested in India (imagine cup, all those competitions and ofers in the Indian market)
my guess is the lot of poor (cheap employees) computer genius from there.
Still what he says is true
"in most countries people's annual (or half of it) income would barely pay for a windows license. infact I don't think it would."
In thirld world countries, the level of live is far less than the wests, you can eat and live as a rich with 10% of what you have. So windows license 20$ is not really sheap, but then you have the same illegally at 1$ ..
A funny example is when UbiSoft morocco made a game ("donald duck quack attack" or something like that), the game was sold in america, europe, asia, japan, etc., but NOT in the country that created it. - TritonX, on 10/12/2007, -0/+120$ for windows, that`s a fair price. If I calculate that every fresh install of windows needs lots of things changed for it to work properly, hell they should pay me to run their OS.
- onesojourner, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1this is good news. I love to read stories about linux spreading.
@gene0915
wake up man. installing the nvidia driver is easy. I could tell my grandma how to do it. synaptic is an extremly easy way to install programs. - asadajk, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0they do use butcher
- asadajk, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0to get a ditch right there in their A$$ :))
- Irco, on 10/12/2007, -2/+2"...(at least not so many compared to other nations)"
mod me down if your first thought, after reading this, wasn't US' government - cmilki, on 10/12/2007, -2/+2And who created the border disputes again ? All I'm blaming the west for is colonisation.
Richard Nixon prompted China to attack India in 1970s according to manuscripts released by the Bush Administration (Thank God, China never did)
USA has been a major supporter of Pakistan.
The over population is a boon in disguise. According to the World Bank, more than 50% of Indians are younger than 25 making India the most "Dynamic nation on Earth". And by 2015 we will have some hundreds of millions of fresh workforce (sorry I don't have the exact numbers)
The thing is people don't give India a chance. Imagine how USA was 60 years after its independence. People compare us with China. China has had reforms for 35 years and has experienced growth since and getting help from the United States helped it a lot too. India on the other hand is a relatively new country to everything. The fact that we've achieved all this is great.
Look at some countries in Africa or South America. Nations that have been independent longer than India, gained large amounts of Foreign aid and still stuck in Poverty.
Jeffrey David Sachs claims India has cut Poverty in half in the past 10 years. Isn't that a lot. The media misrepresenting my nation is no help either.
Anyway Thanks :) - gene0915, on 10/12/2007, -1/+1Bleh, wake me when Linux distros can install a new NVidia driver without touching the CLI or downloading kernel source headers. I mean for ***** sake, can't somebody make a Linux distro that can do what Windows 95 has done from day 1? "Oh, I see a new driver for my video card.... CLICK to DOWNLOAD..... YES, run setup. Click NEXT a few times, reboot and you're up and running with a new video driver. If Linux ever wants to convert the avaerage joe, they have a LONG, LONG way to go.
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