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- rodrigo74, on 10/12/2007, -1/+37"I use Ubuntu to get WORK done, not futz with half working eye candy..."
Then why are you spending time with Beryl in the first place? Seems contradictory to me. - Langford, on 10/12/2007, -1/+23Thats kinda nifty. As long as the cube is going to support being see-through, can I put something inside it?
- selectodude, on 10/12/2007, -2/+19It's called an application in heavy development.
Would you run alpha software in a production environment? - metamorfoza, on 10/12/2007, -2/+16"Um, why would I need to see through my desktop?"
for same reasons you need a 3D rotating-cube-desktop.. - racarrberyl, on 10/12/2007, -2/+13Why don't you actually read the story next time? previously the cube has allowed for faces to go ENTIRELY transparent. BDM allows transparent images to be loaded giving a sort of selective transparency or allowing the creation of 'windows' in your desktop which you can see through. Also it enables different wallpapers on different sides of the cube.
- jbus, on 10/12/2007, -0/+10Next weeks feature: Cube core plugins. A 3D system meter in the center of the cube would actually be pretty cool. press a button and the cube fades to reveal your system meter, or the weather, or whatever else you want. Great idea Langford!
- Langford, on 10/12/2007, -0/+9Yes, pretty much. Multiple desktops have been supported for years, so this project just adds some eye candy to it.
- RaSTuSlinux, on 10/12/2007, -3/+11I've been using it for the last couple of days, had no issues with it at all, which is unusual for such a new software branch. Great work raccar, apps like this only help Beryl move further ahead of the pack.
- xchino, on 10/12/2007, -0/+7Maybe you should just leave a working install alone instead of always trying to run bleeding edge versions.
- Protoss, on 10/12/2007, -0/+7Let me guess, you're using the SVN builds? I was and constantly had crashes, but now that I downgraded to the 'stable' builds, no crashes thus far.
- SniperGX1, on 10/12/2007, -5/+11To use as a fanboy smasher when vista and osx fanboys start their braggin. Ohhhhhhhhhyeeeeeeeeah wellllll can you guys doooooo THIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIS. Ohhhhhh *spurt*
- KungFuJesus, on 10/12/2007, -0/+6yeah that'd be rad if you could import stuff from blender and have it inside the cube
- shakin, on 10/12/2007, -0/+5The author is using the cube to show off his work, but the cube is not what you should be looking at.
This program draws background images on cube faces. It can draw the same image on each face or different images on each face. The images it draws can be have transparency, like a gif or a png (including proper alpha channel). It's basically a fancy wallpaper program. I'm not convinced this shouldn't be a beryl plugin or part of the core since it seems like very basic window manager functionality. I had always assumed Beryl's old wallpaper feature would be upgraded with these features anyway.
This is still a nice bit of work and it will keep a lot of Beryl (and Compiz) users happy. - murloSad, on 10/12/2007, -0/+5I second that. If it's possible it would be a very useful feature.
- randomgeek, on 10/12/2007, -1/+5Things like the roating cube are neat and functional. It actually is easier to think of a program "on the left" rather then on Virtural Desktop Number 3.
- Aeiri, on 10/12/2007, -1/+5If you have a task running on the other side of the cube, you could visibly SEE when it finishes while working on a different desktop instead of periodically checking that desktop and possibly even forgetting it was there.
- Langford, on 10/12/2007, -0/+4Perhaps the contents could be modular, so you can get more than one thing at a time and anyone could make stuff to put in there?
A shakeable 3D snow globe might be fun for a couple of minutes.
Maybe an ant farm, or a tiny village full of AIs that you can randomly torment/smite to relieve stress. - ArthurSucks, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3Well, less. The nifty thing about Beryl and XGL (and all the others coming out) is that your video card starts to take some of the work off your chip. Free a little memory I think too.
- prammy, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3From your own words, you use Ubuntu to get work done and not mess around with eye candy. Well in that case, you should not be playing around with alpha software on your work machine.
Hell I use this laptop when I want to get work done too and I use a stable version of Beryl. The only things I use are the alt-tab feature, the expose like feature and the cube workspace switch. They help me be a bit more efficient at work (well the cube just makes it look cool) but you get the drift. - HonoredMule, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2Last time I played with it, Beryl could put the desktops on a cube only (as in no other numbers of panels, so you had to have exactly 4 desktops). I greatly prefer 3, so I hope this is addressed soon. Seeing 2 background desktops behind the focused one would also be a bit more meaningful to process/easier to juggle.
This would also be nicer with one-sided desktops (as in wallpapers don't render on desktop backsides, just the applications/toolbars do). - flag564, on 10/12/2007, -4/+6"Desktop backgrounds with transparency"
Um, why would I need to see through my desktop?
I'm serious. What are the applications for this? - scilec, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2I've been having a few problems with Beryl running on Fedora Core 6 w/ KDE.
If I choose compiz w/ cow as my window manager, my window decorations disappear.
I've seen a few other people who have blogged about this problem but no workable fix yet (that I'm aware of).
Anybody have any suggestions? - qsucvatz, on 10/12/2007, -1/+3All I want now is the electricsheep screensaver as a background, transparent. How much longer till I can do that?
- frouse, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2Previously backgrounds went transparent when rotating the cube. Now they are transparent when viewing a desktop. Alternatively you can have just a portion of the desktop picture be transparent.
That is what's new. - jbus, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2The problem with this is that if you are using XGL like I am, Metacity is EXTREMELY slow when used with XGL. If this is the case for you, you might want to install and try out Xgame http://xgame.tlhiv.org/home.html. It lets you launch your games in a separate X session and switch back and forth between your game and your desktop. Thus, eliminating the need for you to disable Beryl, and you get the added bonus of being able to have a different color depth and resolution for your games than you do for your desktop.
- HonoredMule, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2Cool, but not good enough for me...I want it on an extruded triangle (3-sided column instead of 4, n-sided for the general case).
- t0mmmmmmm, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1has anyone with a slackware+kde+ati combination managed to get beryl or xgl to work? cause i have not and i feel like my fate is to only watch photos/videos with envy :
- YoThisBAlec, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1If you look at the second image you'll notice that the outer edges are transparent, but notice also that the oval is actually opaque. I don't know what functionality it adds, if any, I just know that you could get some wicked designs with this feature :D I'm thinking, maybe a wall paper inside a cave with pillars and everything else would be transparent.
- mcrules, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1One feature of Beryl that I would like is when you run a program like WoW or TuxRacer or come to think of it any program that utilizes 3D is for the Desktop to switch temporarily to Metacity. I know this probably isnt Beryl's 'fault' but on my system if I leave Beryl running WoW doesn't display correctly and some programs crash completely.
- sanguinemoon, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1@shakin
I see. Thanks for clarifying that. - burke, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1"AIGLX ftw."
Agreed, but ATi seems to think otherwise. - jman8888, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1The Beryl Teams Been Busy (*Does 3D Cube*)
- treetree888, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1Now, you may select the number of sides to your desktop. It sticks to the cube thing, but itll properly display only your three workspaces, if thats what you desire.
- spacebar14, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1If you want Beryl to work out of the box, try PCLinuxOS 2007 Test 1 (still in beta for a few weeks).
It's quite amazing. - ericmoritz, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1If you're using the svn builds, do a complete uninstall of the beryl packages in synaptic and reinstall them. I had the same problem
- mikelieman, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1@scilec
Give this a crack.
[mike@orion X11]$ diff -C 6 -c xorg.conf.orig xorg.conf
*** xorg.conf.orig 2007-01-31 01:27:54.000000000 -0500
--- xorg.conf 2007-01-21 10:50:46.000000000 -0500
***************
*** 67,78 ****
--- 67,79 ----
Section "Screen"
Identifier "Screen0"
Device "GeForce FX 5500"
Monitor "Monitor0"
DefaultDepth 24
+ Option "AddARGBGLXVisuals" "True"
SubSection "Display"
Viewport 0 0
Depth 24
Modes "1280x1024" "1280x960" "1280x800" "1152x864" "1152x768" "1024x768" "800x600" "640x480"
EndSubSection
EndSection
[mike@orion X11]$ - macewan, on 10/12/2007, -1/+1I'm always amused when people ask why they would want such a thing on their systems.
- kyhx, on 10/12/2007, -2/+2I have transparent backgrounds with beryl right now... I don't understand whats new.
Fill me in please. - ptFoe, on 10/12/2007, -2/+2This is great, the stupid Gnome limit of one background for all workspaces made 3D desktop very difficult to use.
Its a lot easier to know which workspace you are after by looking at the background while spinning the cube.
When will this be available in Ubuntu. - tropicflite, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0Hmm, when I enable the Wallpaper Manager, Beryl crashes and dumps me back into Metacity
- sukimashita, on 10/12/2007, -1/+1It's not a stupid GNOME limit.
What you see here will not allow you to have desktop icons or a working desktop (yet).
Infact, the stupid thing here is to actually not invest productivity into extending KDE/GNOME desktop managers, but built a new one from scratch that will take years to get useful (and get dumped anyways after some time). - jtizzle, on 10/12/2007, -1/+1XGL? =(
AIGLX ftw. - randomgeek, on 10/12/2007, -3/+3I don't really understand what is happening here. What, exactly, does this new "feature" add? Things like the roating cube are neat and functional (it actually is easier to think of a program "on the left" rather then on Virtural Desktop Number 3) but what does this bring to the table? From the post I can't really figure out what's going on. The video above shows transparent wallpaper. How is this different?
- sanguinemoon, on 10/12/2007, -4/+2I read what there was of a story, and I'm having a hard time seeing what exactly is different myself. In the video and the pictures associated with the article, I merely see the a cube with transparent wallpapers. Digg me down too, fanboys.
- jas1552, on 10/12/2007, -5/+0They should add the option of having video as a background like Vista.
- gavintlgold, on 10/12/2007, -8/+2Is there any way of getting it?
- alanchrishughes, on 10/12/2007, -6/+0hmmm, the whole concept sounds a bit trivial to me.
- alanchrishughes, on 10/12/2007, -8/+2call me retarded, but i have absolutely no idea wtf is going on here. what is the point? so you dont have to minimize programs to work on another? you can just rotate a cube that has a program running on each side of it or something like that?
- Buelldozer, on 10/12/2007, -8/+2Ahhh, nothing like getting dugg down because your experience is unpopular. Look, I started with Beryl when it was still compiz.
Compiz didn't break like a twig everytime I looked at it crosseyed, why does Beryl?
Beryl has some nice features, some of which make what I do easier. It's why I installed Compiz and then Beryl and then continued to take the time to fix Beryl when it broke.
For now I'm done with it. It's too hard to get working, too hard to KEEP working, and the whole project just seems to be miserably mis-managed. - benhorstmann, on 10/12/2007, -8/+1Ooooo Transparency, we've never seen that before.... How about more innovation on security and stability, not how much video processing it takes to open a terminal window in 3d...
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