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- corevette, on 10/12/2007, -6/+53From their official blog; the changes:
"So without further ado, I give you Beryl 0.2.0!
* New Plugins
- Thumbnail: Thumbnails on the taskbar (window list) which show a mini view of the actual window
- Snap: Allows windows to “snap” to each other, or provide edge resistance
- Opacify: Makes windows behind the active window transparent
- Group: Allows windows to be group, to easily switch between a set of windows
* New system requirements check
- The improved check has much better accuracy
- The check is a lot faster
* New Window Decorators
- Since 0.1, we have two new window decorators
- Heliodor: Uses metacity themes
- Aquamarine: Uses Kwin themes.
* Newly Rewritten Beryl-Settings
- Written in Python
- More user-friendly UI
- Better profile support
* New Translations
- Thanks to all of our foreign speaking users, we’ve had a much better time getting translations
in, and completed. So thank you!
All this and much, much more! So please enjoy,
- The Beryl Team " - inactive, on 10/12/2007, -0/+32in other news. we're STILL waiting for ati to make proper drivers or release them open source.
- corevette, on 10/12/2007, -5/+35I wait for the day Beryl and Compiz will settle differences and merge back together.
- Insin, on 10/12/2007, -2/+24Literally seconds after I'm confronted with the "white screen of death" (aka white cube error [xgl/beryl]) the beryl team updates from beryl 1.999.2 to 0.2.0. Talk about freakish timing. Solved all my problems, no more white screen!
- wastern, on 10/12/2007, -7/+28I want to be able to update my OS without breaking Beryl.
I'm all for things being free and open and different community projects, but at some point things need to be pulled together, ironed out, and polished up. Until this happens Linux will always be in the background and thought of as an OS made only for a niche in the geek market
New features are great, but sometimes you need to take a step back, figure out your direction and work toward a final product. I find that "lets make a bunch of ***** and see what sticks" approach rather annoying. I know there is no such thing as a "final product" when talking in terms of software, but you know what I mean so save the lecture. - dumbkiwi, on 10/12/2007, -2/+23Beryl is not just about fluff. It's also about usability enhancements. See here for a least of great usability features in the latest release:
http://liquidweather.net/howto/index.php?id=92
http://liquidweather.net/howto/index.php?id=101
http://liquidweather.net/howto/index.php?id=102
http://liquidweather.net/howto/index.php?id=104
http://liquidweather.net/howto/index.php?id=105
http://liquidweather.net/howto/index.php?id=107
http://liquidweather.net/howto/index.php?id=106
Now that 0.2.0 is out all the features "featured" above should be available to all. - Agret, on 10/12/2007, -1/+20You can turn on and off any effects you want in beryl, the videos usually have them all enabled to flaunt their e-penis.
- MrSpontaneous, on 10/12/2007, -0/+18@wastern:
Its 0.2. If you want that kind of stability, wait till 1.0
I remember Firefox in its pre-1.0 days - extensions broke with every release. - jellygraph, on 10/12/2007, -1/+18Beryl is simply... awesome...
A lot of people think it's just eye-candy, but that's only because they haven't tried it. It really struck me yesterday that Beryl does actually improve my workflow
And it runs pretty darn smooth, even on a dual screen NVidia GeForce 6150 LE
try that, Vista... rofl! - schestowitz, on 10/12/2007, -6/+21It's like to happen soon. http://lists.freedesktop.org/archives/compiz/2007-February/001413.html
- blarn, on 10/12/2007, -1/+15is there a video of it yet with windows flying every which way?!
- xlocust, on 10/12/2007, -2/+15This is Digg man. I'm sure there will be more then enough Beryl videos for you to spank it to in the coming weeks.
- ghide, on 10/12/2007, -2/+13@randomm
I really don't understand your point here...
so you are saying that a free and open source software is bad because it gives you richer features and choices than other close source ones?
Respecting every user is how oss works, if you know more then you get more power to choose. They respect you by giving you more stuff and choices, not the opposite way.
And I don't understand Y THE HELL you think that the ways of how vista or even, OSX doing stuff are fun. Making everyone's desktop looks like exactly the same is nice? Or actually you are just used to been ***** in the ass by big guys and started to love that way? Being tied up and abused? - inactive, on 10/12/2007, -3/+12Add these to your sources.list: (/etc/apt/)
deb http://ubuntu.beryl-project.org/ feisty main
deb-src http://ubuntu.beryl-project.org feisty main
Replace feisty with edgy if you are on 6.10.
Then do a standard "# apt-get update && apt-get upgrade" - csrster, on 10/12/2007, -1/+10"The last stable release 0.1"
... for some values of "stable".
But you know I'm going to try it out anyway because playing with eye candy is more
fun than work. - NX910a, on 10/12/2007, -4/+13Glad to see the Beryl developers have been thinking outside the box
- tekz0r, on 10/12/2007, -1/+8tarballs -- right side.
- fuzzfuzz, on 10/12/2007, -1/+8Hey I like the "wiggly windows"...
They are a quite nice and non obtrusive way to get attention when fast switching around between a heck load of windows. - DNAspark99, on 10/12/2007, -1/+8the amount of doo-dads is highly configurable, and if so desired, you can disable almost everything and just have beryl behave as a 'plain old boring' window manager.
- skidzilla, on 10/12/2007, -0/+6Try Sabayon.
http://distrowatch.com/table.php?distribution=sabayon - bigtomrodney, on 10/12/2007, -0/+6Not unless you have 3D acceleration in VPC.
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -2/+8@daxsymbiont: "in other news. we're STILL waiting for ati to make proper drivers or release them open source."
We're actually still waiting for Nvidia, too.
They have a memory management bug that causes new windows to open black. How many windows you get to open depends on how much memory your video card has, but it will eventually happen. On some cards, opening three windows triggers the problem, making Beryl effectively unusable on some Nvidia cards that otherwise support AIGLX. This bug has been outstanding since Nvidia first introduced AIGLX support.
While the performance isn't as high, my next machine will use Intel graphics. As Intel open sourced the video driver, making it part of X, Beryl works perfectly. I'm done with proprietary drivers. - wastern, on 10/12/2007, -3/+9>>Making everyone's desktop looks like exactly the same is nice?
While I don't like my system to look like everyone elses, from a supportability angle, having a standard base for people to work off of is rather neccisary. If you've ever worked in support you can surely understand this.
If someone tells me they are using Windows I can tell them where to go, same with OS X. If someone says linux, all that goes out the window unless you are giving terminal commands. It has to start off (asuming a stupid end user), 'what window manager are you using', then explain what a window manager is.....[days later].....you can move on the to next step clicking the button in the lower left, or is it the upper left, or maybe its in the middle just right clicking on the desktop somewhere, maybe they took it out all together.....who knows....maybe X isn't even launching because Beryl corrupted their xorg.conf file that they didn't backup
Custimization is great, choice is great, free (open) is great. However there is still value in having a standard, just talk to anyone that tries to make their website work with IE. Standard UIs are even more important for commercial software. You can't really get down on Microsoft or Apple for that, its neccisary when you are in their possition. Its easy to make things with 20 million options and configurations when you don't have to support it. - Stemp, on 10/12/2007, -0/+5http://26bits.com/2007/photoshop-cs2-on-linux-ubuntu/
- BJ_Blaskowitz, on 10/12/2007, -0/+5I'd like to see more accessibility plugins created. They've already managed to provide some innovative features for the able bodied, how about the disabled? (or the lazy ;) )
I know I've been longing for an on-screen keyboard since my switch to Linux. - sikosmurf, on 10/12/2007, -0/+5What about the "Black Window" bug with some nvidia cards? Any word on that?
- barius, on 10/12/2007, -1/+6@wastern
What are you doing running a 0.2 beta if you're so concerned about system stability? - CitizenKamb, on 10/12/2007, -0/+5Looks cool. I'm going to have to try Beryl soon.
Focus follows mouse, no global menubar, expose, the option of a taskbar, virtual desktops, the option of a dock, EXPOSE (absolutely indispensable), and other windows management tools are looking to make osx AND windows obsolete for me.
- strabes, on 10/12/2007, -2/+6Only if Steve says you can. You wouldn't want to do anything without his permission anyway would you?
- Megatog615, on 10/12/2007, -2/+6Did this fix the weird problem with the password dialog? (gksudo)
- tranix, on 10/12/2007, -0/+4New Sabayon 3.3 Torrent (just released today)...
http://www.linuxtracker.org/torrents-details.php?id=3744 - brinkness, on 10/12/2007, -0/+4Beryl is one of the main reasons I stayed with linux after switching, back in November. It just makes doing tasks easier and more enjoyable
It is true that 80% of the features of Beryl don't actually help you do anything better or faster. Off the top of my head, window picker, desktop cube/wall, and the ring window switcher are really the only things I can think of that I'd feel crippled if I didn't have. However, there are intangible benefits to the extras.
When an animation fires on a menu, or when a window goes transparent because I've selected a different window, it feels as if my computing actions actually mean something. There's a certain level of satisfaction you get when you get a visual representation of an action. I've got my Close Window action set to Explode (or whatever it's called)... when I close a window, there's a visual confirmation of what's happening, the window doesn't just disappear.
My main beef with Beryl is the project maintenance. Ever since the 0.1.999 series, I (and a coworker) have consistenly had problems updating from the official repo. It's consistently broken. We've always had to go from the svn repo to get things working. Forum posts show many, many other people have similar problems. It always turned out to be a broken dependency or a package rename or packages not seeing that some things were deprecated -- all things that could have been resolved with attention to detail, in my mind. Further, when the Official repository remains in this broken state for WEEKS after the problems and solutions are discovered, it leaves one with less of a confident feeling.
I really like Beryl, I really like that it's an active and frequently updated project, but I think the maintainers really need to work on their process before it's ready for wide acceptance. - inactive, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3In Fedora:
If you don't have it yet:
yum -y install beryl
If you want the latest version:
yum -y update beryl - bigtomrodney, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3gok?
Gnome Onscreen Keyboard is included by default in Gnome. These things come to those that look. - sikosmurf, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3Have you tried doing the Double Cube for Dual Monitors? It's pretty trippy.
- SteveMax, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3Wine does: http://appdb.winehq.org/appview.php?iVersionId=1815&iTestingId=9367
- sishgupta, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3The edgy packages definitely work in feisty.
- beezel, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3any other FC6 extras repo users only seeing .1.9999?
=============================================================================
Package Arch Version Repository Size
=============================================================================
Installing:
beryl-kde i386 0.1.9999.2-2.fc6 extras 4.2 k
Installing for dependencies:
beryl-manager i386 0.1.9999.2-1.fc6 extras 76 k
boo, i dont want to install from tarballs! - rac3r5, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2I know this this is not completely Beryl related but.. is there a similar windows equivalent? Even if there isn't, how about virtual desktops in windows? I know windows power tools has one, but I have never liked it. Anything else out there?
- nick58b, on 10/12/2007, -1/+3@macemoneta: "They have a memory management bug that causes new windows to open black."
Turn on the copy rendering path in advanced beryl options. I had that problem on five boxes, all with different nvidia video cards, it fixed all of them. - charlymon, on 10/12/2007, -1/+3Anyone know if there is a live cd out with Beryl integrated for us lazy people?
- mrsteveman1, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2Hopefully these projects will be combined (compiz and beryl). I know beryl is fairly stable, but there are a lot of inconsistencies with the theme and window decoration which lead to problems for non technical users.
- jdong, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2+1 for Sabayon -- works both for Xgl and AIGLX users.
- 1jaxstate1, on 10/12/2007, -2/+4Can it be install on Linux running in VPC2007?
- geoken, on 10/12/2007, -1/+3Is the 'Wall' plug-in included yet? Or is it already in their and I just haven't been able to find it?
- gavintlgold, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1Nah, see all the features here were already in the Subversion beryl. That means that we've had all of them for about three weeks already. :P Any videos you want to see have already been posted, I believe.
- ordminute, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1I can understand wanting this for OS X myself. It really is starting to pale compared to Beryl. I should know, I have to work with OS X all day and look forward to coming home to a modern Linux deskop.
- bmartin, on 10/12/2007, -2/+3I'm pretty excited about this release. I've had some problems using various programs with Beryl enabled, such as Eclipse and Firefox. Will this release be stable enough to make it into Fiesty?
While it certainly has the edge over Windows and OS X in terms of 3D over the other interfaces, if it doesn't help you with your day-to-day work, it's not very useful. I'm glad to see some people are finding themselves more productive with Beryl. If I could get it to work outside of that awful GLX and stop crashing on a couple programs, I'd use it every day. - bmartin, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1Agreed about the inconsistencies, but I'd rather have the choice between the two of them than have them merge. Imagine if KDE and Gnome merged... that could be awful. It'd have potential to bring ease of use together with a full-featured DE, but I have my doubts.
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1@nick58b: Turning on the "copy" rendering path in advanced options doesn't fix the problem. When you do that, you are not running on the GPU but rather using software on your CPU. If you have a fast CPU, you may not notice the problem (other than your CPU utilization just jumped up). On slower machines, with GPUs that are more than fast enough, "copy" slows Beryl to the point where it's almost unusable.
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