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- exsst, on 10/12/2007, -8/+45Why do you have balls on your face?
- rompom7, on 10/12/2007, -0/+27Unwatch Linux/Unix in digg if you're gonna keep bitching everytime a *nix story hits the front page.
Btw, I'm not even going to bother pointing out how retarded and off topic your post is.. It is as if you think Linux is something new.
Ok I lied, I am going to comment. You only recommend it to smell / medium businesses? Have you heard of Novell? I don't think anyone is going to listen to your recommendations any time soon. - inactive, on 10/12/2007, -5/+32Funny how most of those programs that they list for Linux are Windows as well.
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -0/+25try this big list of opensource tools http://www.debianhelp.co.uk/tools.htm definitely worth
- chibifs, on 10/12/2007, -4/+23 That's the beauty of open source, isn't it? That we can so easily port our programs between operating systems and architectures. :3
- webmonk, on 10/12/2007, -1/+16Because saying something is overall superior by backing it up with a very niche kind of application isn't a good argument. It's like saying the hammer is superior to the drill because it's not very good at making holes.
Just as tools have specific jobs that they are good at, operating systems have their element. If you'd like to be taken seriously, stop pretending that one is superior and use whichever is best for the job. - mitrovarr, on 10/12/2007, -0/+15Some of them are, but some of them aren't. It's kind of a pity, because I think my second and third favorites on the list are K3B and Amarok, both worthy programs I would like to have in Windows. K3B, especially, would be nice, because there's no really good free burning software in windows that I know of. I have nero, but I'd like something free to recommend to people with no good burning software.
Probably the most valuable one to most people is OpenOffice; seriously, there is no good reason to use MS Office in the academic or home environments with this available. Fortunately, that's one of the cross-platform ones. - BuddhaChu, on 10/12/2007, -0/+12CDBurnerXP Pro is free, unknown if you can get the source.
http://www.cdburnerxp.se/features.php - imerlin, on 10/12/2007, -3/+13Not so bad, added a few things...
Winamp:
- Songbird
- XMMS
- Beep-Media-Player
iTunes:
- Songbird
CD-Burning:
- Nautilus burning is actually quite good
- Gnome Baker
Email:
- Kmail
Instant Messaging:
- aMSN
- Kopete
Web browsing:
- Opera (can't belive you forgot that)
Also I think it's pretty disturbing how many advertisements this page has. - dcherryholmes, on 10/12/2007, -0/+9@webmonk:
Comparing OS to OS isn't comparing hammers to drills. Just because the majority of people have been conditioned to have a certain degree of tolerance for sporadic failures and unreliability doesn't make Windows the "right tool for the job". It makes it the tool people *believe* is best for them. So far as it goes, belief is it's own form of truth, but let's not us techies conflate quality with rate of adoption. Now that said, I will grant you that the "tooliness" of an OS is also tightly coupled to the existing applications for that OS but, again, that has nothing to do with quality. Digg me down if you like, but I'll also assert that -- objectively -- Linux qua OS *is* superior to Windows. - geminitojanus, on 10/12/2007, -0/+9They got TuxRacer building on Windows!?
- kingace, on 10/12/2007, -0/+9It would be called "Alternatives to Commercial Programs" if it was referring to Windows software only. Quit bitching.
- dicerandom, on 10/12/2007, -1/+10XMMS has been a dead project for quite some time now. Use BMPx or Audacious.
- neko, on 10/12/2007, -2/+101. Observe what category the article is filed under
2. Never ***** post again, stop wasting my (and others) time. - manitoba98xp, on 10/12/2007, -0/+7PlanetPenguin Racer, a free fork of TuxRacer (before it turned proprietary), does run on Windows. Unfortunately, their site seems to be down:
http://projects.planetpenguin.de/racer/ - exsst, on 10/12/2007, -4/+11Good post, also, what are these ads you mention?
http://adblock.mozdev.org/
https://addons.mozilla.org/firefox/1136/ - exsst, on 10/12/2007, -2/+9why did you quote "windows".. isn't "emulator" the logical word to quote in that sentence?
- spafbnerf, on 10/12/2007, -0/+7> They got TuxRacer building on Windows!?
The original TuxRacer ran on Windows (as-well as Linux). - BlackLineFish, on 10/12/2007, -1/+8You use GIMP when you don't have access to PhotoShop or a computer that runs PhotoShop. When using GIMP, you are trying to figure out how to do stuff that you know you can do with PS. Each time I figured something out, it was "cool, just like I can do in PS." Other times, "I wish I could do x, just like in PS."
Then, my employer gave me funds to put PS on my department laptops, and I haven't even looked back.
GIMP is a great way to get started, but it doesn't even come close. If even a portion of your living is made on that kind of functionality, then you need to resource a full package like PhotoShop. Why PS isn't ported to Linux should be the real issue.
--gh - traherom, on 10/12/2007, -1/+8Just to throw in my two cents, there are some decent games for Linux, just not as many. For FPSs, for instance, you can get Unreal Tournament 2004, Enemy Territory, Legends (legendsthegame.net), etc...
(BTW, does anyone know if Unreal 2007 will have Linux support? I don't want to do my own research. ;>) - jopsen, on 10/12/2007, -0/+7And all I can reply is:
? != Linux == Freedom - thomasprebble, on 10/12/2007, -0/+6By the sounds of it that guy isn't it ANY position to recommend ANYTHING.
- kingace, on 10/12/2007, -0/+6You've clearly never actually tried linux.
- WhiskerTheMad, on 10/12/2007, -0/+5"...the user interface is so truly awful that being stuck in a rubber suit, tied up and whipped would have been preferable to using that abomination against usability."
Since I learned graphics manipulation on old versions of PSP and then GIMP, that's exactly the way I felt the first time I had to use Photoshop. - traherom, on 10/12/2007, -1/+6You might try Inkscape. I'm not sure if it will cover everything, but at least basic vector-image editing should be fine.
- milomilomilo, on 10/12/2007, -1/+6Good for the gimp team for making progress.
But the gimp has a long way to go before it's as capable as Photoshop. - baalzebub, on 10/12/2007, -2/+6i still prefer xmms (winamp clone) because of the ease of adding entire directories to the playlist and it is small so can lauch it & add a huge playlist and minimize it so it is out of the way while i do my work...
- thomasprebble, on 10/12/2007, -0/+4No he just has an exceptionally large nose.
- Hitchhiker90, on 10/12/2007, -1/+5This list sucks. There is nothing new on that list that any computer geek in the know wasn't aware of already.
- Flamekebab, on 10/12/2007, -2/+6I'm not going to digg you down, but what I will say is, market share is what's required for that sort of thing. Without pioneers, you never get the finished product, so to speak.
Edit: Why are you waiting on an alternative to UT?
UT, UT 2003 and UT2004 all work under Linux, natively, not through Cedega or similar unstable emulation. - logic11, on 10/12/2007, -0/+4I work for Morgan Stanley. We are standardizing on Linux for our servers (with a couple of Windows servers, and I do mean a couple, our migration is Solaris to Linux, not Windows to Linux). This is a company with an annual IT budget in excess of a billion dollars, although standardizing on Linux is reducing it a bit.
- jshabad00, on 10/12/2007, -0/+4Why is Thunderbird always shown as a Microsoft Outlook replacement??? Evolution or Kontact perhaps, but Thunderbird is no PIM. Of course tech support will drop 25% with a switch to Thunderbird... you just cut 50% of the functionality.
- dcherryholmes, on 10/12/2007, -1/+4Your ipod will work under linux. I set up my employer's daughters (ages 11 and 13) with Ubuntu laptops, installed amarok, and plugged in the ipod [1]. It all worked fine. So, I'm not saying you couldn't possibly have run into problems -- at the very least there could be some faulty hardware in there -- but it should be relatively fire-and-forget with a modern distro.
[1] I also set up iTunes under Crossover because I wasn't sure how they would take to using linux and I wanted to keep as much the same as possible. A few weeks later I was over at the house and the 11 year old volunteered that she liked Amarok much more than iTunes, and that Windows was "way slow" compared to linux. Warmed my heart..... - Flamekebab, on 10/12/2007, -1/+4I think you underestimate how many open source projects are out there.
I feel far more free for using Linux. It's also fun to be part of project where I can make a difference - if there's something I think would be an excellent addition, I can speak up and perhaps something will be done about it in the next release (which, I hasten to add, I know will be coming and I know when too). - dcherryholmes, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3"I am glad that this is an opinion based on personal preferences. How does one measure if one OS is superior to another? Also, your reasoning is flawed, Linux is not an OS, but a kernel, so I assume that with Linux as an OS you mean GNU + the Linux kernel + some stuff."
No, I meant linux doing what an OS does, which is to generally manage the resources of the system and make them available to applications for use. Feel free to split hairs further. Maybe you can even find a misspelled word or two.
"Only zealots try to make strong points like superiority. Sensible people just pick what works."
"Sensible" people perpetuate asstastic DRM schemes, a million virii vectors, and verticle lockin? That dude's iPod "just works", but I would be willing to assert that a free and open mp3 player is "better" -- QUALITATIVELY -- just as I would assert linux is "better". But hey man, whatever lets you follow the herd with the minimum of fuss, that's the best thing to do. Go nuts.
"As for alternatives, a screwdriver can be an alternative to a hammer. But it's silly to use a screwdriver when a hammer is needed. Sounds obvious, but I stopped explaining this to fanboys ages ago. To them everything they use is an alternative that's superior."
This canned little response has zero bearing on what I wrote. I think you just like the sound of your own voice. - Cl1mh4224rd, on 10/12/2007, -1/+4Yeah, really. XMMS needs to fall off the recommendations list for Linux software in my opinion. GTK1 is hideous.
BMP is superior if only for its GTK2 widget set. - mcflynnthm, on 10/12/2007, -1/+4My iPod works fine in Debian etch. Amarok picks it up and does wonders with it. It even gets a little iPod icon when mounted.
- trylleklovn, on 10/12/2007, -2/+5How about beep-media-player?
I don't like old GTK :P - BlackAdderIII, on 10/12/2007, -1/+4"Give it a rest already - most people dont care. ... is the day i might consider linux. "
Whilst we're on the subject of who cares, what makes you think any Linux user looking for programs gives a rattling ***** whether you will consider Linux or not? - logic11, on 10/12/2007, -1/+4Well, the gimp is absolutely not Photoshop (to tell the truth, photoshop is the main app that keeps me chained to the PC). Having said that, I just ran Photoshop CS2 on my Ubuntu system using WINE. A bit buggy, but it did run...
Also, you will like Krita a lot more than the GIMP. It still isn't at Photoshop level, but it doesn't cause me pain just to use it... - inactive, on 10/12/2007, -5/+7lol im sorry but i'm still waiting on linux alternative to Half Life 2, Unreal Tournament, Everquest, F.E.A.R, Call of Duty. You say that Linux = freedoom yet when it come to gaming there are no freedom what so ever. The two things i used the most during my day are my phone and my ipod and they wont work on linux. What kind of freedom is that? I know you linux fan boi will digg me down but whatever, its the ***** truth.
- BlackAdderIII, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2Do you think there is any possibility that some people might want to do something other than play the games you enjoy on their computers once in a while, or is that just crazy-talk?
I've heard that some people who aren't complete retards use computers to do weird stuff like "program", "communicate", "do office work", "creative writing", "make and enjoy media", "manage their schedule and finances", "burn CDs and DVDs" and a bunch of other stuff. Maybe it's just a rumour. - kingace, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2What I need is a good alternative to Macromedia Fireworks. That's the only thing I'm really missing now that I've switched to Ubuntu.
- dacheetah, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2Amongst the games already mentioned, (Enemy Territory was great, even if it only came with 6 maps, the fact that my ISP had a custom map server made it even better) there are also quite a few "cute" games that were made especially for linux (many of which have "tux" in the title) and one of my favourite linux games was Tremulous, that game was very cool.
And if you do find a game that you want to play, that hasn't been ported to linux, then you still have the option to use WinE, or other windows emulators. To the best of my knowledge, cygwin is the only "linux emulator" out there, and I've only ever seen that used for command prompt stuff. I'd say Linux is the more flexible OS there. I still use Windows alot, but lists like this are great, since they help to reduce the dependance people have on expensive software.
There is also some very cool software in that list. As a long time user of MS Office (been using it for as long as I've been using a GUI) it took a little while to get used to some of the quirks in OpenOffice.org 2.0, but the more I use it, the more I prefer it. It may have odd quirks, but so far it's quirks have been less annoying than MS Office's, and there are some VERY nice features it has that MS Office doesn't have. (OOo Math for example makes VERY nice scientific formulae, without the need of a 3rd party program.) - dcherryholmes, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2Mis-threaded my reply to webmonk. Sorry about that.
- howrare, on 10/12/2007, -5/+7It's not open source, but deepburner has a decent free version.
http://www.deepburner.com/index.php?r=download - BlackAdderIII, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2@"Cl1mh4224rd"
"Yeah, really. XMMS needs to fall off the recommendations list for Linux software in my opinion."
I couldn't agree more, but the users seem to like - nay, love the old bugger - I still find myself having to support XMMS in the odd app now.
It's a mystery to me. When I want lightweight music, I don't use a GUI at all (let alone a butt-ugly one), and when I want a GUI media player, I use amaroK.
Beats me why someone would settle for "not as good as winamp was 5 years ago" when they could have "better than any media player that already existed on any OS" - Valdar729, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2If you think gnucash can replace quickbooks you are very mistaken. Gnucash can't even do more than 3 price lists. It is VERY common for small-mid size companies to have more than just 3 price lists for their customers. They don't integrate payroll, do sales orders or purchase orders as good as quickbooks. Audit trails and a sufficient SDK are also an issue. Plus, with quickbooks for $1000/year I get a personal support rep that I can have call me any time of the day within 30 minutes of my request.
I run linux everywhere in my business. Employee workstation to our asterisk PBX, but you know what we can't replace? Quickbooks. That's why we have to have VM's running windows JUST so our employees can RDP into them and use quickbooks.
But the good news is on a recent survey I did for Intuit, they asked for my level of interest for a linux version of Quickbooks. I told them "It should have been done years ago". Intuit is very good about listening to its customers and with Microsoft Small Business Accounting encroaching on their Windows territory I wouldn't be surprised if they expand into Linux soon.
But Gnucash is no replacement for Quickbooks. - dacheetah, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2That is a damn fine link...
Thanks, this will kill a great deal of time, which unfortunately I don't have right now.
(Where would I be without bookmarks?) - pengas, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1I agree with most items posted here, but the main problem not addressed by open office - and I'm with jshabad00 - its outlook. by no way thunderbird is a suitable replacement, and open office, as cool and useful as it may be, does not provide a full solution.
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