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The Pirates Hold a Party
wired.com — A fledgling new political movement calling itself The Pirate Party of the United States has emerged from the dust of last month's police raid on The Pirate Bay in Sweden.
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- sometemple, on 10/12/2007, -3/+41thank god they cleaned their website up a bit. don't get me wrong, i'm all for patent reform, but black backgrounds and high contrast are for gamer clans and metal bands, not up and coming political parties.
- BloodJunkie, on 10/12/2007, -93/+11dupe: http://digg.com/technology/The_Pirates_Hold_a_Party
please digg the original - Zonkzor, on 10/12/2007, -7/+36@BloodJunkie why did you reply to the top coment when your post has nothing to do with it?
- ssanders, on 10/12/2007, -29/+18I don't know what I find more pitiful/depressing... people who beg me for money, or sore-losers on digg who beg me for my digg because theirs got looked over.
Bloodjunkie... give it up. Some stuff just doesn't make it to the front page, and some "dupes" do... it's how it works. - BloodJunkie, on 10/12/2007, -56/+5@Zonkzor I felt it was relevant.
- BloodJunkie, on 10/12/2007, -49/+8@ssanders This story might have made it to the front page faster if the votes weren't split between two stories. Dupes take away from digg's ability to be up-to-the-minute.
- pbjorge12, on 10/12/2007, -26/+8"@Zonkzor I felt it was relevant."
Oh Gawd... - ssanders, on 10/12/2007, -9/+16That's the fun of digg, if it doesn't make it... it doesn't make it. But there is a beautiful cocktail of getting your post to the front page, and one of the major ingredients is timing...submitting your article during hours where there is alot of people reading.
This one was submitted 3 hours ago in the links section and got a good response... yours was 17 hours ago in the techonlogy section and is on page 15...
Sit back and let digg work. - shiftt, on 10/12/2007, -4/+6they definitely do need a better site, but for the time being their presence alone is something to be happy about
I might not want for the next president of the United States to be from the Pirate Party, but I certainly hope they will influence and contribute to the copyright and patent laws that we have established here in United States. - brandizzle, on 10/12/2007, -8/+17If you submitted the article to Digg then obviously you think it's news that people need to hear about.
People are hearing about the news. Isn't that what you wanted?
So stop being a little bitch about it. - flashboca, on 10/12/2007, -3/+6You are kidding, right? Up and coming political party? Up and coming implies that it will one day, in the not too distant future be a force to be reckoned with. The Pirate party will never get even 0.001% of the votes anywhere anytime.
- masamunecyrus, on 10/12/2007, -3/+1And this is a dupe of a story that came about all of three or so days after the raid. Therefore, BloodJunkie, you're no more correct than this guy is.
Besides, most people don't have the time to read ALL of the frontpage articles on digg EVERY day. - cmiz, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1@flashboca: I agree that the pirate party is not (and probably will never be) a real force in politics, but I also wouldn't underestimate the kind of support they could get. Just because I wouldn't vote for them for president doesn't mean I don't agree with what they say. I'd certainly help them influence policy if given the chance.
- BloodJunkie, on 10/12/2007, -93/+11dupe: http://digg.com/technology/The_Pirates_Hold_a_Party
- Kman, on 10/12/2007, -6/+18Harrrrr!! Go Pirates!
- LiterateWolf, on 10/12/2007, -2/+1Ninja still rule!
- borninda818, on 10/12/2007, -17/+6cute...36 diggs and on the front pagepritty cool story though. PIRATE TILL I DIE
- kalisphoenix, on 10/12/2007, -3/+22I hope this is more successful than the Ninja Party.
(and the Donner Party, for that matter) - dazman, on 10/12/2007, -5/+39badPun
Q. Why are pirates, pirates?
A. Because they arrrrhhhhhhh
/badPun- Quag, on 10/12/2007, -3/+22Why couldn't the pirate go to the movie?
Because it was rated arrrrrrgh.
- Quag, on 10/12/2007, -3/+22Why couldn't the pirate go to the movie?
- Hypertime, on 10/12/2007, -31/+4Duplicate, and as lame as the original. Give it a ***** rest, folks. I want tech news, not a bunch of unwashed teens throwing a hissy fit.
- jull1234, on 10/12/2007, -15/+332 Days and counting.
- GuyHitByTruck, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1Um.. unwashed "teens" don't go and form their own friggin' political party... STFU
- Arch, on 10/12/2007, -4/+14Forget the Green Party, I'm joining this!
- foxsynergy, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3We need a party of Green Pirates. Maybe Martians with peg legs.
- bobbles, on 10/12/2007, -1/+17The actual party website: http://pirate-party.us/
- kcahon, on 10/12/2007, -7/+9Dupes happen. There was a time long ago when people actually cared if a story was duped or not and wouldn't digg it if it was. Digg is changing. More people have come and this migration has changed its social landscape. Posting a duplicate story isn't really against the rules of Digg, its just disrespectful, or at least it used to be.
- Hypertime, on 10/12/2007, -21/+6God, shut the ***** up and just hit duplicate story, you ***** putz.
- traviswalters, on 10/12/2007, -6/+8Disrespectful of what? It doesn't matter so long as it gets to the front and is good...
- dasch, on 10/12/2007, -1/+4The users pick what stories go on the front page. Thus, if a story appears on the front page, there is a reason for it, dupe or not.
- TheReport, on 10/12/2007, -2/+6"WN: Do you currently download software illegally?
Sigal: I'm not going to answer that one. But I support the downloading of music, movies and software for trial use, or to gain knowledge in the pursuit of development.
Allison: No. Not at all."
At Least Sigal was honest with his response even though Allision had a firm answer, imagine the irony- babbling, on 10/12/2007, -1/+5They asked about downloading software.
I can say that I haven't downloaded any software illegally in years, and I've tried to get rid of any that I have from years ago. I use Debian, Ubuntu, and other Free Software.
- babbling, on 10/12/2007, -1/+5They asked about downloading software.
- mcgirt, on 10/12/2007, -2/+7Is anyone actually going to join the Pirate Party? I'd be too afraid of ending up on a blacklist somewhere.
- pinsomniac, on 10/12/2007, -0/+7I would, if they ever get around to organizing themselves and getting off the ground. I shot off an e-mail their way expressing my interest, background, and a few inquiries. It remains unanswered.
- rjam710, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3"Are you a Republican or a Democrat?"
"Niether, I'm a Pirate... b*tch!"
Yeah, I'm in. - cduquette, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1I joined and I'm against illegal downloading (in a sense). I'm against the current patent and copyright system. It limits creativity. Imagine if someone patented the wheel. Imagine what setbacks that would cause. I'm also hoping that supporting this organization will lead to more open standards allowing a purchased piece of media to be used on any device that user owns. There is no reason I should be forced to pay for a CD, but have to pay again to listen to that song on my phone as a ring tone.
- seanieb, on 10/12/2007, -7/+2http://duggmirror.com/links/The_Pirates_Hold_a_Party_2
- n3xu5, on 10/12/2007, -2/+6I am waiting for the Ninja Party website which can't be far behind.
- Kokichi, on 10/12/2007, -4/+2While I'm certainly a swashbuckler myself, I think that this is getting somewhat crazy. Do people really think that we, as a nation, should be able to purchase just one copy of a movie, then share it with everyone else? It *does* hurt the industry when you don't support the companies that you would have otherwise supported.
For example, if you were planning on playing Oblivion, BUY the game, don't pirate it. That way the creators get money, they get higher selling numbers, and hopefully they get the desire to make more games. However, if you download it, they lose all of that, because you were a potential customer.
However, say you download a Jack Johnson CD. You would have never bought it otherwise, but you thought that it's nice to have some slow guitar music to play in the background. You could have done without it, and you would have never dropped $20 on a few good songs, so you pirating it doesn't really hurt the industry. If anything, you having the music will influence someone else, who will then become a potential customer.- flashboca, on 10/12/2007, -8/+1Just ***** asinine. REally. So...you can steal the music as long as your wouldn't have bought it anyway? How ***** stupid.
You know...it is ***** idiots like you who are the reason why there will NEVER be a real outrage over the RIAA/MPAA. Befcuase you are such a minority with these views you are LAUGHED AT.
GHee, I wouldn't have bought that Porsche anyway. So it is OK to steal it.
Newsflash for you. YOU ARE NOT ENTITLED TO MUSIC! If you want slow guitar music to play in the background, get a real ***** job that pays you money instead of mopping up the spilled piss in the bus stop men's room! - Samus, on 10/12/2007, -2/+2flashboca, if i steal a Porsche, the guy who owned it has one less Porsche. If i steal a MP3, the guy who owns it, i.e. the one who payed for the MP3, still has the MP3.
Your viewpoint is the one that is ***** stupid, because you are too much of a ***** moron to realise that there's a difference between stealing something physical as opposed to stealing something that is intangible. Now STFU n00b. - IAmAI, on 10/12/2007, -1/+1The Pirate Party are not lobbing for or against the moral and subjective issue of whether we should be able to share media that we buy - they are lobbying against the unscrupulous tactics the big media companies are doing to maintain and maximise their profits by minimising any 'lost' sales, which undoubtedly do harm to consumers, artists, creativity and innovation. For example, Despite the fact that peer to peer software is used for illegal activities, it give them no right to attempt to circumvent them. The Pirate Party are not fighting for any morally obfuscated issues - they are fighting against something that is plain and simply wrong and corrupt.
- cmiz, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1I agree, content should be bought. I've got a rather large DVD collection, many of which I downloaded illegally and watched before saying "hey, I like this one" and going out to purchase it. It's not that I don't like movie theaters, it's just that paying $10+ to see a movie that may or may not be a steaming pile of crap isn't my thing. Maybe if the Movie/Music industry put out a more consistent product at a more reasonable price... cut out some of the blockbuster special effects... cut some of the actor's salaries... cut out some of the marketing (it doesn't matter how much you spend on advertising, I'm not going to go see tokyo drift).
The main reason I have for supporting this type of party would be less for the piracy and more for the anti-DRM. I think I should legally be able to watch any DVD that I have *purchased* on my video iPod. (I don't actually own an iPod, but you get the idea...)
- flashboca, on 10/12/2007, -8/+1Just ***** asinine. REally. So...you can steal the music as long as your wouldn't have bought it anyway? How ***** stupid.
- richIsBored, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3Well according to their official website, they're talking about copyright and patent reform but they never explicitly state what changes they intend to make.
Their is some potential there for balance where everyone gets what they want.
For instance, I would support a move to reduce the duration of copyright. I think as it stands it's something around 80 to 120 years.
Either way, that's a ridiculous amount of time for artists to accrue suitable payment for their work. Let's say we can reduce the duration to something more reasonable like 5 or 10 years.
A few examples...
• Playing the entire NES collection on your computer or a newer generation console would be legal irrespective of whether you possess the original carts or not.
• PC games like Doom, Heretic, SimCity and the like would be free and legal to download.
• You could upload every song made before 1996 to your MP3 player freely and legally (assuming you can find a player large enough).
All the while authors still have ample time to sell their work (provided record companies start paying artists decent pay).- DaWolfman, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2"You could upload every song made before 1996 to your MP3 player freely and legally"
1996? Are you kidding? You'd never hear the end of it from Metallica.
On one hand, I think we need to introduce a bill that would abolish copyright measures that prevent consumers from transferring IP from one electronic device that they own to another. On the other, it's easy to see how IP can (and does) get copied easily among friends/P2P. Why can't we all just get along? - richIsBored, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1Metallica wouldn't have anything to bitch about because they'd still have 4 copyrighted albums earning income. Not to mention all of their previous works, which would be in the public domain, equate to free exposure which could lead to potential sales.
I mean artists can bitch about people stealing their work but if you compare the volume of copyrighted work to that in the public domain, it's no surprise that people are stealing. People can't get anything for free and nobody can afford to buy everything they want. - IAmAI, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1"Well according to their official website, they're talking about copyright and patent reform but they never explicitly state what changes they intend to make."
They've barely been going for a month! Give them a chance! Fighting against massive media corporations is no simple tasks therefore it's going to take a great deal of time to devise even the outline of a strategy and their goals. Regardless, if you had read the article they said that they "...would get people thinking about intellectual property and privacy, and confront other candidates head-on about these issues." - I think that's a good start!
- DaWolfman, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2"You could upload every song made before 1996 to your MP3 player freely and legally"
- brainache, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2Although i really support their cause, they're never gonna get any meaningful representation anywhere in the US.
I mean, the relative sucess of the Piratpartiet in Sweden is largely down to the fact that Sweden employs proportional representation. Countries like the USA and the UK, not employing PR, make it extremely difficult for small parties to get any voice at all. - goettel, on 10/12/2007, -2/+1/sign 8)
- dagonweb, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1/cheer
- returnofmalv, on 10/12/2007, -2/+2We already have a pirate party -- they're called Republicans.
- dupswapdrop, on 10/12/2007, -1/+2Yes but they are owned by company's with really big boats.
- aullom1, on 10/12/2007, -2/+1Pirate Party of the United States... Will they call themselves PPUSies?
- MacGyver, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2Nice, the article says the party started on 06/06/06
- fintler, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0yarrrr :)
really tho...pretty much everyone I know would vote for them if they ever got on the ballet - nowisee, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1many people would vote for them, if we had a pirate party in Norway i would most definitely vote for them.
- xamaco, on 10/12/2007, -1/+0There are 2 new pirate parties:
A French Pirate Party http://www.parti-pirate.info/
An Italian Pirate party http://www.piratpartiet.it/
I joined the French one. In France a very bad law has just been voted on copyrights. It's called DADVSI. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DADVSI
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