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- vogelzang, on 10/12/2007, -1/+18The procedure looks like hell:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y-TUMw1FTmY - inactive, on 10/12/2007, -4/+16By humble observation, I must note that all Lasik eye surgery doctors wear glasses.
- Supertrout, on 10/12/2007, -2/+13I had lasik surgery 2 years ago. Glad I did it.
- Rikkochet, on 10/12/2007, -1/+11Me too. I've been pretty surprised at the widespread misconceptions about corrective laser surgery.
People: if you wear glasses, do some real research! I know many people who "heard" things and won't take it any farther than that. - captinherb, on 10/12/2007, -0/+8What I want to know is who the hell had this done first? The doctor said "Well, we tried this on some monkey's and it seemed to work ok, do you want to be our first patient?"
- Wavey, on 10/12/2007, -1/+8I just had IntraLase done about a month ago. The procedure is very quick -- about 30 seconds per eye, max -- and totally painless. Yeah, the little things they put on your eye to make them stay open are uncomfortable, but they're only on for a short while. No big deal.
The procedure goes like this:
1. Sign some final papers in the waiting room.
2. Get called into a comfortable room where they put some anesthetic drops in your eyes and you sit for a little while and wait for it to take effect. You are also given half of a Xanax tablet to mellow you out. (I felt like I didn't really need to take that, I wasn't stressed, but whatever.)
3. The first part of the laser procedure is making the corneal flap. This is cut by the laser itself. You lie down, they put these suction things on your eye to keep them open, and this huge monstrosity (the laser) comes down right on top of your eye. The room is dark; you can't see much of anything that is going on. You have to focus on a green light. If your eye strays from the green light, the machine automatically stops and then continues where it left off, when you're ready again. You feel a little bit of pressure while the corneal flap is being cut. Then your vision (of course) goes all blurry. This only takes like 20 seconds per eye.
4. With both eyes closed, you're led out again to a chair where you have to sit for about 10-15 minutes with your eyes closed.
5. You're then led back in for the second phase. Again, you need to focus on the green light. There's a bunch of indistinct red lights (blotches) around the green one. I couldn't tell what the heck was going on exactly; the whole thing is sort of surreal and the lights are a little psychedelic the way they shift from focused to blurry as things are going on with your eye. At one point, your vision goes totally black, then comes back again (this is normal). The zapping of your eye for the second phase only takes about 20 seconds again. Then your corneal flap is put back into place. You can see the doc's hand brushing your eye over and over again with something; my vision was so messed up at that point I couldn't really tell what he was doing exactly but assumed he was "brushing" my corneal flap back into place.
6. They tape these bug-eyed clear plastic protectors over both eyes, then put sunglasses on over those. Looks nice if you want to scare kids.
7. That's it. They give you another whole Xanax pill to take when you get home. You go home (you need to be driven by someone of course), take the pill, and sleep for the rest of the day. They want you to keep your eyes closed for day one.
8. The next day, you wake up, take the bug-eyed things off, and you can see! (Actually I could already sort of tell my vision was pretty good even when I was just walking out of there with the eye protectors on.)
9. You put steroidal drops and anti-bacterial drops in your eyes 4 times a day for the next week. You also have to use Refresh Plus drops in your eyes 4 times a day for a month.
10. You can't rub your eyes for 3 months. You can do it very softly after two weeks, but you can't dig into your eyes with your fists or anything like that.
11. You go to your eye doctor for checkups after 1 week, 1 month, 3 months, 6 months.
Don't get scared by videos of the procedure. Do your research on IntraLase and decide. For me so far, it's been a breeze, and I can see very well! So far I'm loving it. It's great to just see and not have to worry about anything. - CamZak, on 10/12/2007, -0/+7Okay...I am so not going to get lasik.
- Sc00t, on 10/12/2007, -1/+7OMG, that makes Clockwork Orange look like a walk in the park
- mikeazorin, on 10/12/2007, -0/+5You guys are wasting your time. You can do it yourself for so much cheaper!
http://www.lasikathome.com/ - dstrube, on 10/12/2007, -0/+4I'm getting it done tomorrow. (This digg is eerily timely for me.)
In particular, the parts about eye-dryness and wavefront prevalence were helpful.
I'll let y'all know if I get blinded. :-p - GamingTrend, on 10/12/2007, -0/+4This is OLD Lasik. I had it done Tuesday and there was no shaving of my eye with a huge woodplane. Most of these are 'bladeless' now, as Wavey described. Worth every cent...
- ubuntumatthew, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3I had this done in 1999 and my vision hasn't changed/regressed since. I couldn't be happier with the procedure. I could smell the burning, though, and it kept me away from barbecues and Burger King for a while.
- wurzelgummage, on 10/12/2007, -2/+5This is a very good point. If nothing else convinces you to run a mile from these quacks, that should.
- Wavey, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3Ha! Yeah, when I got my lasik done, they asked my wife if she wanted to watch the procedure on a monitor. She was like, "uhhh...no that's OK, I'm good."
- otomo, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3I am going to get PRK, longer recovery time, but it doesn't look at all like that, that was just creepy.
PRK Just involves burning off the outer layer of the cornea and then putting a contact in and letting it grow back. (really simplified example)
But nothing but photons touches your eye.
http://www.allaboutvision.com/visionsurgery/prk.htm - eskay, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3I respectfully disagree; I have thought about getting laser eye surgery at some point (not any time soon or in the next few years) and so I'm nowhere near the look-for-actual-ultra-credible-information stage, but I thought the article was interesting, and I definitely wouldn't have seen it if it wasn't on digg.
- Wavey, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3My laser doc doesn't. He's also done 75,000 lasik procedures, so I felt like I was in good hands. Wouldn't have done it otherwise, because after all, it's your eyes...pretty serious stuff.
- Dimensio, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3"I'll do it when they don't have ***** cut open your eyes...."
Try PRK or LASEK. The epithelial layer is removed, but it regrows relatively quickly. No non-healing incisions are involved.
The drawback is that usable vision takes approximately two weeks to develop, and 'artifacts' (such as ghost images) may last for up to two months. - ChileanGoD, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2Same here, I did it 4 years ago and so far its perfect. I have to say the procedure is somewhat traumatizing. First, they really inform you about all the bad things that could happen to you... man... that got me scared at first. There are many things that could go wrong, infection, bad laser,etc.. . Then, it's the procedure itself. The cutting off the cornea wasnt the bad part. The first shock is when you see live when they flip it open. You're like... "Holy *****, they just did it". Then the stress really got into me when I realized the bright sharp little red dot, that I am supposed to look at straight centered during the operation, became all blurry. Man.. I was never so concetrated to try to pin point the center of that huge blurry red thing that was a dot before. That was the most stressfull moment. After the operation i stood up, had a check and went to the waiting room with all the other people. Just like that. The first hours are the worst. It feels like you've been living in cave for months and all of a sudden you have to look at daylight. Your eyes hurt the same way and tears come out none stop. The following day I was ok. Then it got better and better. So far.. like i said.. 4 years and no problemo :).
PS: Yeah, at night you do get to see big flares during the first week after the operation. It's cool. - rtjac, on 10/12/2007, -1/+3Lasik might just be safer than contact lenses. I know a good lasik surgeon in the KC area if anyone is looking.
http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2006/10/10/health/webmd/main2079492.shtml - AstroPHX, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2That might be true. What's your sample again? 1 doctor? 2?
Great research and diagnosis, Dr. Insight. - nreynolds, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2I'll do it when they don't have ***** cut open your eyes....
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2The Emory healthcare website does a very good job about going through the process of lasiks and answering FAQs about it, except they don't show how much they charge for it -.-
I'm looking into having my lasik surgery done at Emory Healthcare in Atlanta, GA. They use ALLEGRETTO WAVE Laser Technology and is approved by the FDA. They also have some of the best eye care doctors in the nation.
http://www.emoryhealthcare.org/departments/laser_vision/services/services.html - HsoKinees, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2heh.. interesting stuff :P a company called UltraLaser seems to be advertised alot..
I am kinda thinking about getting laser surgery done.. when I can afford it..
I saw an episode of the Jonathon Ross show, a guest said he had laser eye surgery(from who: unknown), he said it was painless but you could smell burning! >_ - Gromit, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2I had wavefront lasik done in April. Abosolutely no regrets at all. It doesn't hurt, but it is a bit stressful. That suction device they put on the eye just kinda freaked me out a bit. Suddenly everything goes gray, they cut the flap, then I could see a blurry red dot (I was very nearsighted). The laser fired for 20 seconds or so and then dot was sharp and focused.
I've always had dry eyes so I had a bit of a problem with my eyes getting bloodshot and slightly irritated. This has happened twice in the six months since I had the procedure done. Honestly it was less irritation than wearing contacts for 15 hours a day but I got a lot of "Why are your eyes so bloodshot?" when it was worse those couple of times. So the other day my eye doctor put punctal plugs in the tiny little drainage holes in my eyes. This was completely pain free and I can't even tell they're in there now. Supposedly this prevents a lot of moisture from draining out of the eyes. I'm also using restasis drops twice a day. I can already tell a difference after just a couple of days. Once the nerves grow back my dry eyes should improve but since I always had a problem with it, I won't be surprised if I end up with the plugs for a longer period. This is nothing compared to dealing with contacts.
I've also had no problems with night-time vision, halos, etc. I think the wavefront technology is better at avoiding these issues than the older lasik procedure was. - buss, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2I've got you beat, I'm -10.5 in my right and -11 in my left. I'll be getting corrective eye surgery in about a year (I've been told to wait until I'm at least 21). This article introduced a new procedure for me, phakic intraocular lens implant. I'll be sure to keep that in mind.
- Wavey, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2They cut your eyelid? Ow!
No, seriously, I can see what you mean about the going blind for a second part, but since I knew that that was going to happen, I wasn't stressed about it at all -- though I can understand how people would still get stressed even if they know it's going to happen. It didn't bother me; I just thought the whole thing was interesting, actually. I was just kind of fascinated with the weirdness of the procedure. - gamasutra, on 10/12/2007, -1/+2"advances in both laser surgery and contact lens technology should make both approaches to vision correction even safer in years to come. "
I'll wait. - ChileanGoD, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1In Montreal... in all.. for both eyes with lifetime insurance. It costed me 1400$ canadian. In all. So far I'm a happy costumer.
- Wavey, on 10/12/2007, -1/+2Nope, no pain at all. (See what turned into a monster post below...I didn't realize I typed that much...:)
- xemulon, on 10/12/2007, -1/+2technology is always changing; what's best today will probably be archaic in two years. but it is up to the point that the procedures are even safer and far more successful. the only main objective is to make it faster and more convenient to patients. besides that, both LASIK and PRK very safe and effective.
i have had PRK surgery done six months ago, and it is the best thing that has happened to my visual life. the bad news for me is that i will have to use reading glasses when i'm 40+ yr old and that technically my vision is not as good as it was when i had corrective lenses. but, it is a trade-off that i gladly accept. i recommend PRK =)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Photorefractive_keratectomy - Necho, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1Hey otomo I had the same idea of getting PRK over lasik (before this video even, but besides that a video of a surgery should never be judged just by what it looks like.)
With PRK there is more initial pain/discomfort, but isn't as invasive nor does it carry quite as many risks and carries lesser severity of some symptoms compared to lasik. I could go on but I'd recommend anyone to research it instead (as one would with something as important as vision).
However, for whatever reason, lasik is tremendously more popular.. maybe because of the shorter downtime and market penetration (and thus more doctors have done more lasik procedures than PRK)? but afaik those are the ONLY advantages. - lalee, on 10/12/2007, -1/+2IntraLase (the new all-laser, bladeless technique) is more expensive right now, but it's far more precise. Typically 20/20, and sometimes 20/15 are achieved without touch-ups required.
I had IntraLase LASIK done in January, and am still seeing at 20/15 -- without typical night-vision problems like starbursts or halos that most conventional LASIK patients suffer. By far, it was the best investment I've made in years. :-) - turbo2ltr, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1+1
I had the same type of procedure done in April I think. I saw 20/15 using both eyes less than 24 hours after the procedure. Things were a little hazy for about a week. Maybe 2 weeks of "halos" at night. I had dry eyes for maybe a month at most. Just used the drops whenever I felt I needed it.
I couldn't be happier. The biggest problem was breaking the habit of taking my contact out at night!! It was VERY weird going to bed without taking them out after doing so for 15+ years. Probably took me two months before the urge left me. - inactive, on 10/12/2007, -1/+2would'nt cutting your corneal tissue hurt? anyone that got this done and know?
- jessicamooray, on 09/01/2009, -0/+1To know more about Lasik Eye Surgery and related topics, http://www.laserlasikeyesurgery.com
- TerenceDunne, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1Thanks. This was very helpful. I am currently in the process of researching Lasik and it is scary since I like my eyes functional.
- nkthen, on 02/26/2008, -0/+1Millions of people have done lasik and it's only a couple of hundreds having problems, which makes up to less than 1%.
http://www.eyes4lasik.com - NanoStuff, on 10/12/2007, -2/+3The procedure isn't fool proof. Suffering loss of contrast is not uncommon, that's if you don't experience the more severe side-effects, most of which are permanent.
I think I'll stick with contacts. I don't doubt Lasik will improve sharpness, but at a potential loss of other acuities, no thanks. - tylerxcore, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1my dad got the lasiks surgery done back in its early days, and they misplaced his prescription with another guys and ***** up his vision permanently, hes tried to correct it a couple times but there really isn't anything they can do.
- maryboston, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1OK, sign me up, can I do a root canal at home too after I am done with Lasik@Home ;)
- wheel, on 10/12/2007, -2/+3If I was going to be getting Lasik surgery, I don't think that I would simply consult a website on digg, albeit done on NPR. It's not news that any random person would want or even need to know, and the people getting Lasik are mostly the only audience paying attention, and they're reading medical journals and talking to their doctors. Buried as lame. Digg me down, but it's my opinion.
- dagooh, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1I had lasik surgery 1 year ago, I'm 27 years old and I've been wearing glasses and contacts for more than 15 years.
To people with no sight problems it must sound stupid, but being able to see without aid is priceless, it feels like a new life and I'm so glad that I did it, I was scared ***** the day of the surgery but it was worth it.
My advice is, if you really need it (really need it, it's not worth it if you can see but just want a little touch up) go find a good doctor, learn everything about the procedure and do it, it will change your life. - dstrube, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1Wow. That was something. The procedure was a strange and intense experience (and the soreness a couple hours afterwards was strong), but I'm now quite pleased with the results.
- carlosglz, on 10/12/2007, -1/+1Great article... thinking about getting it done at UCLA
http://www.uclaser.com/procedures.htm - jjtbraun, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0Just a thought about Contacts...
Glasses are by far the safest option. There are no known problems (no one has gone blind) and they actually add a level of protection for your eyes.
Contact Lenses are the least safest. Poorly kept CL's can cause a variety of eye infections which can lead to blindness. Think about it, a foreign body in your eye everyday for the rest of your life. There are a lot of places where problems can occur.
Surgery is the middle road. Not as safe as glasses, but quite a bit safer than CL's. As with any surgery, there are possible complications, but most of them are not problematic to vision and are treatable.
If you think that Surgery is too dangerous or possible complications, it is safer than wearing contact lenses. - thefeedstore, on 05/03/2008, -0/+0Many people have had successful LASIK surgery without issues. I was looking into the procedure and I found this website that made me change my mind.
http://www.the-feed-store.com/thebuzzrss.asp?feedi ...
Although for most it's very safe, if you are in that small percentile you may have some serious issues such as constant dry eyes, double vision, blurry vision, low contrast and much more.
I would rather where glass and protect my eye's then have a procedure that might hurt them.
Just my 2 cents.
Jeff - alan4all, on 04/14/2009, -0/+0well, lasik is not suitable for all person, some can have lasik surgery, but other are not a good candidate, see more here; http://bestmedicalsolution.com/blog/is-lasik-surge ...
- DooDooFace, on 10/12/2007, -1/+1Whoa, that looks real. I'll give it a shot.
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I'm back and I'm blind. Do not recommend. -
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