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- inactive, on 05/19/2008, -1/+123It's not the radiation when they're pregnant, it's the type of person who is always talking on the phone and ignoring their kids after they're born that causes behavioral problems.
- rgodfrey, on 05/19/2008, -22/+103Handy, huh? The British have silly names for everything, don't they?
- thirdman, on 05/19/2008, -2/+71"Handy" isn't British slang for a mobile phone - it's German
http://german.about.com/library/blvoc_dengl_Handy. ... - madaday, on 05/19/2008, -3/+55i've never heard it be called a handy....
mobile, but never handy - arcticblue, on 05/19/2008, -4/+36This is stupid. If this were true, then every kid in Japan would be messed up. Living in Japan, I can tell you first hand that the kids here have less problems than the kids in the States.
- MLisa, on 05/19/2008, -0/+31"They add that there might be other possible explanations that they did not examine – such as that mothers who used the phones frequently might pay less attention to their children – and stress that the results "should be interpreted with caution" and checked by further studies."
Especially since they studied children born in the late 1990's. Cell phones were more often used by snobby-type people then. As stated above by other diggers; the type of mother who would rather talk on the phone than pay attention to her child probably plays a large part in this study. A part they did not examine. - Mediamoron, on 05/19/2008, -3/+32No company would ever put out a product that could be unsafe, they have your best interests at heart always.
- dubloe7, on 05/19/2008, -0/+23I assumed that 'handy' meant vibrator before reading the description/article.
- Valisk61, on 05/19/2008, -4/+27Buried as utter *****.
- TheSuperSpy, on 05/19/2008, -6/+28Handy is German, not British
- Zlorp, on 05/19/2008, -0/+21I have a feeling that the relation comes from the fact that a mother who talks on the phone a lot is the type of parent who is going to be less involved with raising their child due to their obsession with their own social life and be more inclined to leave their kids sitting in front of a tv when they're young rather than interacting with them.
lets all jump to conclusions! ready. Go! - tylerni7, on 05/19/2008, -0/+18That's the first thing I thought of when I read this as well. It seems odd that the radiation would have any effect, especially since the head is so far away from the baby. But if a mother was talking on cell phones a lot in the '90s, it's very likely that they aren't spending enough time with their kids, and causing a whole mess of behavioral issues.
- Pittance, on 05/19/2008, -1/+17More like, women who cant put down the ***** phone are incapable of raising children. Hyperactivity, ADD, are usually symptoms of poor discipline and poor (see: high sugar) diets. Not being able to form emotional relationships is symptomatic of a problem childhood, abusive parents, or neglect. Behavioral problems usually stem from lack of control by the parents at home. Now if there was a conclusive connection between cell phones and autism, or mental retardation, then that would be something. This article is just giving horrible parents a scape goat so they can blame cell phones instead of admitting that they were and are terrible parents.
- aechase, on 05/19/2008, -1/+15Agreed, this study is no position to imply causation. Intelligence correlates highly with shoe size, but is it that big feet leads to big brains, or that through ageing intelligence and shoe-size both increase independently from one another?
Sideshow Bob notwithstanding, of course. - jackalsclaw, on 05/19/2008, -0/+13yea, cause social conservatives do so much better jobs raising children and making sure they don't catch "the gay".
PS:I'm not sure why you are saying ***** about liberals but I had to point out bad parenting comes for all walks of life - richardhenry, on 05/19/2008, -0/+13I'm British, and I briefly assumed that a "handy" was some sort of strange sexual device.
- sjbdallas, on 05/19/2008, -3/+15You were dugg down for some reason but I agree with most of your comment. Not so much with the money aspect but with the neglect aspect.
It's not unusual for me to be driving through the grocery or mall parking lot and see some lady gabbing on the phone, carrying bags of crap, while her one or two toddlers are walking along with her. First thing I keep my eye on the kids and get ready to hit the breaks because it's inevitable that one of those kids will wander in front of a car before mom notices. - siszam, on 05/19/2008, -22/+33I've seen many mothers gabbing on the phone and dragging their poor, neglected children around like they're a ball and chain instead of a precious person. It's pretty sickening. Just imagine how big that child's college fund or inheritance could be if the money spent on cell phones was invested.
- tomjm5000, on 05/19/2008, -2/+13Well, champ, presumably mothers who used cell-phones a lot during pregnancy would have done the same after the child was born. And because the study also accounted for children who used cell-phones themselves before the age of 7 (another likely strong correlation with mothers who used them a lot), I think there's probably a point to be made there.
- JasonCox, on 05/19/2008, -2/+13Simple answer to behavioral problems:
Whop your kids. - eatkitten, on 05/19/2008, -1/+11Whoa there, it's just the internet. Calm down.
- blinkfink182, on 05/19/2008, -0/+9I think you need to check your sarcasm detector. I believe it is broken.
- inactive, on 05/19/2008, -0/+9The word 'radiation' always makes me laugh: heat radiates, light radiates, fashions radiate, yet people always associate it with invisible nuclear death.
Somebody needs to point out the amount of other sources of microwave and electromagnetic radiation we're exposed to on a daily basis - I imagine using the wireless card in a laptop is over nine thusand times more significant than a Nokia, never mind less obvious sources like chargers and cable receivers. - sjps220, on 05/19/2008, -0/+9Homer: Well, there's not a bear in sight. The Bear Patrol is sure doing its job.
Lisa: That's specious reasoning, Dad.
Homer: Thank you, sweetie.
Lisa: Dad, what if I were to tell you that this rock keeps away tigers.
Homer: Uh-huh, and how does it work?
Lisa: It doesn't work. It's just a stupid rock.
Homer: I see.
Lisa: But you don't see any tigers around, do you?
Homer: Lisa, I'd like to buy your rock. - spwestwood, on 05/19/2008, -2/+11This is a typical example of bad science reporting in the media to get attention grabbing headlines. Correlation does not imply causation.
There is a faulty logic to go from "Women who use mobile phones when pregnant are more likely to give birth to children with behavioural problems" to "Using a mobile phone while pregnant can seriously damage your baby".
In the same way you cannot say:
With a decrease in the number of pirates we have seen an increase in global warming over the same time period.
Therefore, global warming is caused by a lack of pirates. (cum hoc ergo propter hoc logical fallacy)
It could be (for example), that women who work all the time both use the phone a lot, and have less time to spend on their children, leading to behavioural problems. But that wouldn't be an interesting headline. - aspec, on 05/19/2008, -4/+13I don't know, man... from where I'm standing, it looks like every kid in japan is pretty messed up. And they grow up to be pretty messed up to. I'd like to call your attention to the Tentacle Porn market.
- Sarevok9, on 05/19/2008, -7/+15Did anyone else jump straight to sex when they read the title?
- FujiwaraTofu, on 05/19/2008, -0/+7That's a correlational study for you... Just like saying that the more ice cream is consumed, the more deaths by drowning there are.
- TheDreadDiggerD, on 05/19/2008, -2/+9I'm still waiting for a finglonger.
- MacEnvy, on 05/19/2008, -0/+6If it damages the baby, the vibrator was too big to begin with.
- Seldon2639, on 05/19/2008, -0/+6Correlation does not prove causation, guys. The fact that women who use the phones were more likely to have children with psychological problems does not mean that one caused the other (through radiation, or any other thing). They could both be caused by the same factor, for instance. The researchers themselves point this out about three-quarters of the way into the article:
"They add that there might be other possible explanations that they did not examine – such as that mothers who used the phones frequently might pay less attention to their children – and stress that the results "should be interpreted with caution" and checked by further studies. But they conclude that "if they are real they would have major public health implications".
I'm bothered that instead of putting that right smack up front, and a disclaimer in the headline, they (and the submitter) instead went with the more shocking title and lead which implies that this is solid, confirmed no-other-possible-explanation fact. - Zaggynl, on 05/19/2008, -7/+13Ring Ring Ring Ring Ring Abortus phone!
/hell - writerwriter, on 05/19/2008, -0/+5It isn't the phones that cause problems, it's the mothers. Definitely agree on the neglect issue. Also wish to point out how many moms do not enjoy their kids, don't care about their kids and are depressed, unchallenged and basically going through the motions. It is no wonder there are so many problem children.
Here's the scoop people: Condoms are cheaper than kids. USE THEM IF THERE'S ANY question in your mind. - Zlorp, on 05/19/2008, -0/+5and of course no one should consider for a moment that the type of parent who would talk on the phone a lot would raise a kid with behavioral problems. its obviously the phone warping the minds of babys, and not ***** parenting. no sir.
- mw113, on 05/19/2008, -1/+6How about giving a 'handy'?
- tama00, on 05/19/2008, -2/+7wtf is a handy, i thought this was about her giving hand jobs while she was pregnant.
- Adelie, on 05/19/2008, -1/+5ha ha ha ha ha!!!
Classic! - radonaldson54, on 05/19/2008, -4/+8Handy is a German term for cell phone, not British!
- kublerross, on 05/19/2008, -1/+5yup correlation !=causation
its a retrospective study that used people who would have been early adopters of cell phones (likely more affluent, busy lifestyles, etc) vs those who werent early adopters (likely less wealthy, less hectic lifestyle).
I bet that we could show that moms who have jobs have kids with more behavior problems. BAN WORK! - robotderek42, on 05/19/2008, -1/+5You know, I've heard giving a handy will prevent pregnancy all together.
- damndj, on 05/19/2008, -0/+4Handy? That's as gay as saying "Bloomies"
- inactive, on 05/19/2008, -0/+3Dude, the day the internet makes me angry is the day I switch it off and do something useful instead.
- dubloe7, on 05/19/2008, -0/+3dammit, now that's going to be stuck in my head all day...
- robdiggity, on 05/19/2008, -5/+8Just further proof of my theory: German people love David Hasselhoff.
- Adelie, on 05/19/2008, -0/+3Can I dig you again? Great quote!
- tomjm5000, on 05/19/2008, -0/+3I mean... I guess I trust cell-phones, and it's not conclusive, but is it so ridiculous to believe that a source of radiation kept inches from a fetus' head might negatively impact its development?
- crashingechelon, on 05/19/2008, -0/+2I'm glad that some diggers realized that. I saw Handy in the title and was wondering how many would get that it's German for mobile phone.
- tavenger5, on 05/19/2008, -0/+2These 'authoritative research' asshats only say this ***** to get attention. They're the same ones that release studies that say video games are bad, and eggs are good (but the whites are bad) every couple years just to get people to gobble up their 'research'.
Would also be nice if all the control group wasn't all from one place and the cell phones weren't bricks from the early 90's. - RyVal, on 05/19/2008, -0/+2Dugg for same reason...about as true as Scientology.
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