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- eco57, on 02/25/2009, -2/+45They missed a major one: SUNSHINE.
Linkage: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Light_therapy (note both Seasonal Affective Disorder and Non-seasonal depression entries.)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Seasonal_affective_di ...
I also think being exposed to natural things is important (forests, bodies of water or streams, impressive overlooks, canyons, and the like), but that may just be me. :) - painting, on 02/25/2009, -4/+45exercise.
- Ismith988, on 02/25/2009, -2/+41getting laid
- DucoNihilum, on 02/25/2009, -8/+44This is irresponsible. People suffer from SERIOUS PSYCHOLOGICAL ILLNESSES and you're telling them to take some ***** herbs? When this doesn't work and they kill themselves I'm sure the author will feel great about themselves. I'm sure it's fun to be apart of the whole new age movement, but ignoring real problems so that you can avoid those evil pills and that evil therapy for people who have REAL MENTAL CONDITIONS so that you're nonconformist is wrong.
There's a difference between feeling blue and unipolar depression. - clichecow, on 02/25/2009, -7/+41Antidepressants are prescribed so often because they work, and if you have serious depression you should talk to a doctor. Stuff like this may help, but it's no substitute for professional medical care.
- K4Lic0, on 02/25/2009, -10/+41Umm, what about the #1 cure? Weed!
- inactive, on 02/25/2009, -0/+28In case the article goes down:
St. John's Wort
Revamp your Diet
Exercise
Meditation
Having a stripper shotgun you a massive bong rip - sockpuppets, on 02/25/2009, -2/+25St. John's Wort No Better Than Placebo for Depression
http://www.medscape.com/viewarticle/431386 - asoon, on 02/25/2009, -5/+25natural cure for depression?
OGC - inactive, on 02/25/2009, -1/+18But I always cry afterward...
- maximilen, on 02/25/2009, -2/+171000mg *****
- FI5HERMAN, on 02/24/2009, -11/+25I speak from experience.....to beat depression, work on the Mindset. As a man thinketh so is he !!!
- inactive, on 02/25/2009, -3/+16Where's comedy?
- NiftyG, on 02/25/2009, -2/+14Antidepressants do indeed work, but they only relieve the pain of the depression, not the underlying cause.
Getting rid of the underlying causes of depression involves a lot of personal work. You have to change your depressive behaviors and your mindset through therapy, meditation, etc. - ivanmarsh, on 02/25/2009, -4/+15Sorry but you're an idiot. Perhaps the think happy, be happy ***** will work for someone who's mildly depressed for a few weeks but as someone who has lived with major depression since my teens for no other reason than brain chemistry I can't think my way out of it. I've got news for you, you may have been depressed but you weren't dealing with clinical depression. You might as well tell people with cancer to think they are cancer free. Depression is a disease not a lifestyle choice.
- elliotys, on 02/25/2009, -0/+11Depression is always a tricky disease. There is really no strictly analytical ways to test for it (i.e. measure serotonin levels at the synapse) so it is always based off of what the patient is telling the doctor, much like pain. When they are testing these drugs for efficacy, the results are based off what the patients tell them, and then those are compared to what the patients who took the placebo reported. All drugs that the FDA passes, have been shown to be more effective than a placebo. So when people come into my pharmacy and tell me that their antidepressants, usually a SSRI or SNRI, have changed their lives and have decreased their depression, I have a hard time not believing them.
Should they be used as a last resort, after diet and exercise? Absolutely.
But have they worked for millions of people who have exausted all other options? Absolutely. - sockpuppets, on 02/25/2009, -3/+12Maybe this is the depression talking but I'm tired of reading your comments. Why do you end every single one of them with !!! ?
- Altair27, on 02/25/2009, -8/+17Beer.
- archer104, on 02/25/2009, -0/+97. Ass pennies.
Studies have shown that putting pennies in your ass and then reintroducing them to circulation has a positive correlation with long-term happiness most likely do to spontaneous giggling when imagining colleagues handling the pennies. Further research is needed to see if the effect carries over into ass nickels or other forms of ass currency. - donkeyshow, on 02/25/2009, -1/+9they forgot: hookers, cocaine & a tropical island.
- DucoNihilum, on 02/25/2009, -1/+9If only weed wasn't a contributing factor in some people with bipolar/unipolar depression. Actually, a lot of people I know personally (so this isn't a study, don't hold this up to any incredible water) have become more depressed with cannabis, it's somewhat isolating and I can definitely see how regular use could make you depressed.
- sarcasmosis, on 02/25/2009, -6/+14This is a junk article. St. John's Wort has only ever been proven to be an effective placebo.
Pharmaceutical antidepressants are a dangerous minefield of personality-destroying side effects. If people seriously wanted to address chronic depression, they would address drug prohibition and bring up the plant that has actually been shown to control and regulate depression symptoms and cycles.
California is currently the only American state to allow medical marijuana use for mental illnesses. Why? - SixSocks, on 02/25/2009, -0/+7Amy: You should try homeopathic medicine, Bender. Try some zinc.
Bender: I'm forty percent zinc.
Amy: Then take some echinacea, or St. John's Wort.
Professor Farnsworth: Or a big, fat placebo. It's all the same crap. - KilGil27, on 02/25/2009, -0/+8there's no shame in crymaxing
- twiztidsinz, on 02/25/2009, -0/+8you're doing it wrong
- Rain12913, on 02/25/2009, -1/+8The level of SSRI's in our water supply is so incredibly minute that it cannot possibly be having any effect on us. People take daily doses of these drugs that are thousands of times more potent than that which you will ingest from your water supply in an entire lifetime, and clinical studies have shown that the side effects of even these massive doses are safe enough to warrant their continued usage. While I do admit that it is pretty freaky, most of what you hear about drugs in the water supply is just media fear mongering to sell stories.
- karmaroks, on 02/25/2009, -0/+7they're depressed because they're not getting laid.
- Rain12913, on 02/25/2009, -0/+7I always think it's funny when people hype up "natural" remedies over medications, as if they contain some kind of magic and aren't simply medications themselves. St. John's Wort, for instance, is most likely just a Selective Serotonin Reuptake Inhibitor just like Prozac, Paxil, Zoloft, and most other antidepressants. If you were to extract the active ingredient and amp up its potency you would see the same side effects as the aforementioned antidepressants. Also, while "The Centre for Complementary Medicine" who funded the study cited in the article will tell you otherwise, St. John's Wort is simply not as effective as other SSRI's or it would have been scooped up and marketed by Big Pharm quite some time ago.
Those other remedies are spot on though. Except for the most severe of cases of depression, diet/exercise/meditation techniques should always be tried before medication. - Rain12913, on 02/25/2009, -0/+7No kidding Zach, and that's why a medication that is found to work no better than a placebo can be considered a placebo itself.
- Kahnza, on 02/25/2009, -4/+11I've been on lots of different anti-depressants. None of them really did anything but make me feel like an emotionless robot.
Cannabis is BY FAR more effective for me. I wish I could get MMJ in my state. - wakeupsticky, on 02/25/2009, -0/+6Obviously you've never suffered from a serious depression, ADlima...
- inactive, on 02/25/2009, -0/+6Break *****
- b8765g, on 02/25/2009, -1/+7They forgot about scientology.
- TheScogg, on 02/25/2009, -0/+6You don't know what you're missing.
- DucoNihilum, on 02/25/2009, -2/+8Other things that won't work and delay treatment.
- the2989, on 02/25/2009, -2/+8Getting things done then smoking a bowl.
- Altotus, on 02/25/2009, -1/+6St. John's Wort is a good example of an overhyped herbal remedy. First of all, herbal doesn't mean it's not a drug nor safer. "Herbal" means that the composition is variable, active ingredients may be unknown, the compound is a complex mixture instead of a single active ingredient, and, most importantly, that the remedy is not required to meet any validated standard for efficacy or safety.
I say that St. John's Wort is a good example, because there's a chemical analog of Prozac in the plant, so there's the implication to many that it must be similarly effective. Yet, independent academics have shown that it is no more effective than placebo with regard to treating depression, yet it shows considerable adverse affects (namely, persons with chronic exposure to St. John's Wort tend to develop cataracts).
You though you were depressed before, wait until you find out that you've blinded yourself. - DucoNihilum, on 02/25/2009, -1/+6Zach, I think you missed the point entirely.
- CJ117, on 02/25/2009, -3/+8Get off your fat, lazy, McDonald's splurging asses, America!
Other PROVEN positive benefits of regular exercise:
- Better SEX (enhanced sexual arousal, stamina and performance)
- Longer LIFE (which you can spend having better sex)
- LOSS OF WEIGHT
- More self-confidence/higher self-esteem
- Highly reduced chance of colon cancer
- Better, more restful sleep.
Benefits of sitting on your ass ALL DAY EVERY DAY like usual eating crap food:
- - DucoNihilum, on 02/25/2009, -0/+5Your tin foil budget must be massive.
- DocHoliday22, on 02/25/2009, -0/+5A lot of people who have clinical depression wallow in self-pity. They really do believe they are terminally ill so sit there feeling sorry for themselves. They see medication as the only way out. When you say to these people, "be positive, it's all in the mind" they have baby tantrums.
I've had clinical depression, it's debilitating. You don't know what causes it and thus can't get rid of it. It has that snowball effect, troubles slowly build up until it's so large that you can no longer realize it as a single worry but a mixture of worries. You can't see a way out of it, you feel alone and don't know what to do. Sometimes you'll sit there worrying "about being depressed and how long it's going to last" and you're heart starts pounding. I didn't want to tell anyone I was depressed, I felt too embarrassed.
The truth is it's not like this everyday. Nobody is depressed at 100% of the time everyday. There are some good days and some bad days. The trick is to use those good days to try and work through the problem. I've kinda worked through mine using the good days and POSITIVE thinking does really help.
I know I shouldn't post illegal files, but for anyone who really wants to stop worrying PLEASE read this: http://www.mininova.org/tor/468752 . Amazon Link: http://www.mininova.org/tor/468752 - bonk2k, on 02/25/2009, -1/+6I agree. Although good diet and exercise are immensely helpful when treating depression, they can't be called cures.
- ewc80, on 02/25/2009, -0/+5I love how they knock modern medicine then recommend St. John's Wort which is just an MAOI.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Monoamine_oxidase_inh ...
In modern medicine MAOI's like parnate are considered pretty old school. Though they are still used.
If you think that St. John's Wort is totally safe then read the section on the dangers of MAOI's
Plus the potency of St. John's Wort pills is not regulated like parnate, or other MAOI's is. But who needs all that "precisely calibrated dosage" crap when you have all the hippy goodness of your St. John's Wort pills? - ivanmarsh, on 02/25/2009, -0/+5Not being able to get off your ass is a symptom of depression. Why don't you tell people the cure to bleeding to death is to stop bleeding to death?
- dullnation, on 02/25/2009, -0/+5Don't forget naked women, there's nothing more natural than naked women.
- inactive, on 02/25/2009, -0/+5:I
- DucoNihilum, on 02/25/2009, -0/+5That's actually somewhat valid, especially in the winter months when people start to get SAD.
- bigysmalls, on 02/24/2009, -3/+8Studies of St John's Wort tend to to be contradictory. Some say it is as good as prescription drugs and some say it is only minimally effective-this may say more about prescription drugs than St John's Wort but who knows. I personally think some type of meditation and exercise is the best thing you can do to fight depression.
- inactive, on 02/25/2009, -0/+4This man speaks the truth!
- jmoo1, on 02/25/2009, -0/+4The cause of and solution to all of life's problems
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