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- Quadrophenic, on 06/18/2008, -1/+26This is the best news I've heard all day!
- shauncorleone, on 06/18/2008, -0/+20Wouldn't that just basically mean that the standard size has increased?
- cbartlett, on 06/18/2008, -0/+12Funny, because I've been reading lots about how places are pouring 14 oz "pints" to save money:
http://consumerist.com/tag/14-Oz%27-To-Freedom/?i= ... - TimDigg, on 06/18/2008, -0/+8"I went out to my car, came in with some measuring cups I had recently purchased, and measured it for myself."
wow... - simplyskeptic, on 06/18/2008, -0/+7let me guess, you've never had to work for tips.
- LightPhoenix, on 06/18/2008, -0/+5The article's conclusion is incorrect - they can only say that this is true for Northern California, and there may be regional variations. That said, this is more than likely true everywhere.
It's really simple to get free alcohol in a bar, even if you are a guy - don't treat the bartenders like crap, treat them like human beings. Most customers, male and female, either end up annoying the bartenders (also male or female) or being dicks and pissing them off. Those people will get weak drinks, shorted beers, and slow service... even if they tip poorly. On the other hand, if you're nice to the bartenders and friendly instead of demanding, you'll find yourself getting better service, stronger drinks, and even free drinks if you're there long enough and they know you. Of course, you still have to tip... in the US at least.
As a last bit of advice, especially for women, who I always see do this all the time: do not shout the bartender's name over and over trying to get their attention. It usually just pisses them off, and the reason they haven't served you is probably because they are busy. Or you've been a spoiled demanding brat and they're intentionally ignoring you. - inajeep, on 06/18/2008, -0/+5Who the hell paid money for that study? Who the hell did the study because I want a job with that company. They know how to party.
- baddriver, on 06/18/2008, -0/+3LA Times, thanks for being a ***** party pooper. Like the student who reminds the teacher they forgot to assign homework.
- puba, on 06/18/2008, -0/+3Maybe that explains why I can barely keep my head off the desk this morning.
- jcaino, on 06/18/2008, -0/+3Yea, just don''t date one...
- inactive, on 06/18/2008, -1/+4A pint is not 12 ounces.
- terryzom, on 06/18/2008, -1/+4The reality is that many bartenders often make drinks to order to best suit taste, especially for regular patrons. Hence, a drink poured for a regular customer may differ in both alcohol content and taste from the same drink served up to a total stranger.
- inactive, on 06/18/2008, -0/+3Bring the car around, Charles.
- Omek, on 06/18/2008, -0/+3I knew that long-island was a little on the rubbing alcohol side... ;-D
- Zachari, on 06/18/2008, -0/+2They better put more of SOMETHING in that six dollar double-shot.
- inactive, on 06/18/2008, -0/+2Wine should be poured in accordance with the size and shape of the glass used, which itself is chosen on the qualities of the wine. Deeper, more robust reds with heavy bouquets for example belong in large, wide glasses to create as much a surface area as possible for the wine to emit its weighty fumes. A bright, dry white on the other hand, can rest easy in a much thinner glass where bouquet doesnt matter so much (as the wine is generally chilled and its odor rests close to the surface). The sizes of wine glasses vary considerably, and so too must the volume of the wine decanted. Your concern with volume alone infers a lovely meal at Olive Garden, at best.
- thejart, on 06/18/2008, -1/+3...and with the price of alcohol going through the f*cking roof, that's a bargain!
- inactive, on 06/18/2008, -0/+2 This kind of whining is one of the reasons we have those soulless measured pouring machines. That and bartenders rob their bosses blind.
- TimDigg, on 06/18/2008, -0/+2Isn't that an indy rock band?
- inactive, on 06/18/2008, -0/+2interestingly enough, this particular article says EXACTLY that:
"The standard size for alcoholic drinks is 5 ounces for wine, 12 ounces for beer and 1.5 ounces for spirits... The average draft beer was 22% larger."
I don't know about the rest of you, but I've yet to see a 12 oz draft beer. I think they're all 16 oz. So, 22% * 12 oz + 12 oz = 14.64 oz.
So, I guess, either A) the writers of this article have never been to a bar or, B) I've been getting jipped on pints my whole life. - bemenaker, on 06/18/2008, -0/+2Wow, really? That's some fine detective work there Lou. Did they really need to study this, to know this? *facepalm*
- Biznarie, on 06/18/2008, -0/+2I've always noticed the drinks to be weak and watered down, you know... to save money. I highly doubt any bar would give you more alcohol. Not where i live anyways.
- shertzerj, on 06/18/2008, -0/+1I guess that makes sense for wine, but for beer, wouldn't be pretty difficult to fit a few extra ounces over 16 in a 16 oz. glass?
- UnleashX, on 06/18/2008, -0/+1Why is this bad news? Generous pouring is always appreciated!
- jamesdew, on 06/18/2008, -0/+1haha I was trying to think of something witty like that to respond with but now I won't bother
- shinelikeitdoes, on 06/18/2008, -0/+12 double red bull and vodka's in santa monica cost about $40. they better be strong.
- ZenMojo, on 06/18/2008, -0/+1So technically I'm paying the right amount in LA? That almost makes me feel better -- almost.
- SolidBones, on 06/18/2008, -0/+1Where the hell were the bars in this study? Amsterdam?
- Natitude, on 06/18/2008, -0/+1does anybody really care that we're drinking more alcohol when we go out? I for one am happy to pay for four drinks but drink six... that's called a good night
- inactive, on 06/18/2008, -0/+1I cannot think of a salad for which any riesling would be an appropriate accompaniment. Then again, I have never eaten at Applebee's.
- Ebeach, on 06/18/2008, -0/+1dugg for Guinness!
- rootsm3, on 06/18/2008, -0/+1yea most bars would strangle their bartenders for wasting alcohol.
- cutebutnerdy, on 06/18/2008, -0/+1Oh such a problem, BRING IT ON!!!!!
- thejart, on 06/18/2008, -2/+3are you drunk right now?
- irishjays, on 06/18/2008, -0/+1On the other hand in younger hot spots like Cancun where traffic is fast and each shot is monitored bartenders can scrape extra cash by stiffing on the stiff. A bartender currupt in this way can actually pocket 5 drinks worth of cash by giving everyone 80% of each shot of Jager. That's an extra $30 if done on just one bottle's worth of jager bombs. If you're in an unfamiliar place and your first drink tastes weak, ask for the shot on the side. Even close to home as this has happened to me at applebees on a slow night when I'm sitting at a table.
- StultusJuventus, on 06/18/2008, -0/+1Actually, if you look into the older drink recipes, the "standard size" which bars claim today is actually totally incorrect. Drinks recipes have and still should call for the sizes which bartenders are using. This 1.5oz nonsense does NOT make a real cocktail. The article links a "standard" for spirits which would be 1.5 oz or one pour of a jigger. A jigger is meant to measure PORTIONS of a drink, not the full drink.
- BDOUG, on 06/18/2008, -0/+1When it comes to cocktails, I would prefer they cheat me on the price than cheat me on the contents. We mostly mix ours at home but I've been served by really excellent bartenders and really bad ones. The quality of the establishment overall is usually (though not always!) your best guide. In general I'd say most of the bartenders we've had have been really good at it..not too strong and not too weak for my tastes (I like the taste of alchohol, but don't want to be overpowered by it).
- LanceUppercut, on 06/18/2008, -0/+1You know what really grinds my gears? Bartenders that use Long Island Ice Tea mix instead of making the drink themselves. It always tastes like they ran the drink down Kevin Federine's ass crack and into the glass. Trust me, I have a refined pallet and have sampled both.
- Hetman, on 06/18/2008, -0/+1How do you make beer contain more alcohol? If you do not know the difference between an american beer"12 oz", and a pint you really need help. Secondly alcohol is so damn expensive in bars that they should give you more of it. Regardless it is not going to make up for the price you paid for your drink.
- inactive, on 06/18/2008, -0/+1alcohol in bulk is cheap in comparison to what you pay at the bar for it... I can buy a 750 ml bottle of patron anejo for 40 dollars(probably vendors get it much cheaper) and you pay 8 or 10 dollar a shot sometimes? ( 1 shot equals 45 ml which is like 16.6 shots per bottle)
So instead of the money going to the owners maybe if the bartender is nice and gives you a free shot or something , they make a few extra bucks with a good tipper instead .... so it really doesn't hurt the bar if they have to give you a few free drinks >:) especially from repeat customers giving them good business. - 6502programmer, on 06/18/2008, -0/+1"Your concern with volume alone infers a lovely meal at Olive Garden, at best."
Indeed, at best. It was actually an Applebees, for a lovely $5.99 per glass wine. While cheap, the Chateau Ste. Michelle Riesling is a decent enough accompaniment for a salad. - matrixbandit, on 06/18/2008, -0/+1OK seriously WTF if this isn't the biggest load of ***** I've ever heard. This sounds like half of a Point/Counterpoint article from The Onion, the other half being the video from a year ago that showed all the nasty bartender tricks to rip you off and give you less.
Here's the video I speak of.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bfNXcVLjaDc - Konrax, on 06/18/2008, -0/+1I'm hungarian and this is completely not true!
My warm up drink is a 60/40, bars put one or two shots into my drinks. pffffft - DrSnugglebunny, on 06/18/2008, -0/+1Be off with ye, you scurvy grouches!
- RedHairedMan, on 06/18/2008, -0/+1"I'll take a small, please."
Sorry sir, we don't have small. We only have large, extra large, and jumbo.
"Wouldn't that mean that large is your small?"
Uhhhhh...I'll have to go talk to my manager. - 6502programmer, on 06/18/2008, -2/+2Try this in Utah. Once you join the "private club" that serves alcohol, you're subjected to automatically dispensed alcohol, ensuring each drink contains as much liquor as every other drink.
In other news, is there anyone who's really surprised by this? Once you hang out at a place, you get to know who can make a drink and who can't, along with who gives generous pours and who doesn't.
I did actually once have occasion to question a pour given. I had ordered a glass of white wine served with dinner a couple of years ago. It looked underfilled. I went out to my car, came in with some measuring cups I had recently purchased, and measured it for myself. It came in just shy of five ounces, but because of "size inflation", it looked at least an ounce short. - neuromonkey, on 06/18/2008, -0/+0You *haven't* sampled Kevin Federline's ass?!
- bredma, on 06/18/2008, -1/+1people have to drink more these days. Thing about it. Here in Texas they tell you to have a designated driver. Then add new law. you can lose you car or right to drive if drunk is in car and has an open bottle and you haven't had a drop. Someone sober has enough trouble putting up with someone not sober without having to watch their every move.
- neuromonkey, on 06/18/2008, -0/+0Big Gulp, please!
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