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- inactive, on 07/17/2008, -4/+67"King County prosecutors say the raid was justified. Martinez's neighbors have been complaining about a pervasive smell of pot, they said, so authorities need to figure out whether Martinez has been breaking the law."
Guess I'll think twice before taking my mid-afternoon toke outside. This is ridiculous. If you smell marijuana smoke coming from your neighbor's yard, at least get to know them first before turning them in. A lot can be at stake for someone who has to go to jail for something so ridiculous as smoking a natural plant on his own property. - alapoet, on 07/17/2008, -0/+50There's breaking good news on this story:
Direct from Martin Martinez:
"Thanks to all the supporters who wrote emails, made phone calls, and made other contributions to the strong show of public support following the Lifevine-Cascadia NORML raid this week.
"King County Prosecutor Dan Satterberg has said the investigation of legitimate medical marijuana patients has been stopped. Seattle's top cop has said that the files and medicine seized by police Tuesday have not been opened or reviewed and will be returned soon.
From more than a decade experience with Dan Satterberg's office, we can trust Satterberg to follow this course of action.
Officers should not have confiscated patient records and property. They know that now, and there should be no further problems arising from this event. Cascadia NORML and Lifevine have no interest in pursuing a lawsuit or any other response to this unfortunate waste of police resources. We understand the police are just trying to do their jobs and did not act maliciously.
We hope the property will be returned soon. I will keep the community posted on this situation.
Great thanks to Doug Hiatt, Jeff Steinborn, Alison Holcomb, and all the reporters and private folks who helped spread the word so quickly this week.
It is reassuring to have such strong community support for legal medical marijuana patients in Seattle." - djfatalerror, on 07/17/2008, -4/+49"The woman said she's highly allergic to marijuana and suffered headaches and dizziness. She said the smell was warding away some of her customers.,, ... Right
- thbemky827, on 07/17/2008, -6/+26i just can never understand how people think the smell is offensive. Its so ***** BEAUTIFUL. I wish I could have my house smell that way ALL the time instead of every 20 minutes
- Erich100, on 07/17/2008, -4/+22The CIA is the biggest importer of illegal drugs in the US. Unless it goes through them there will be hell to pay.
- inactive, on 07/17/2008, -2/+19They raided some place for 12 ounces of pot? Thats not even a pound... Way to go America, love the way you spend money on completely useless crap.
What a waste. Legalize it and tax the crap out of it and build better schools.
I love whenever they raid a place 9 times out of 10 its the DEA with the ski masks and guns... Whats even funnier is the DEA thinks they are accomplishing something. They are saving us from cheetos and sleeping. Thank you.
Lets keep filling up those jails though we clearly dont have enough people locked away. - lucy22, on 07/17/2008, -2/+18It's too bad they do this. Poor people are sick. Sounds like the guy was following the law.
- teraken, on 07/17/2008, -2/+17"The woman said she's highly allergic to marijuana and suffered headaches and dizziness. She said the smell was warding away some of her customers."
Perhaps it was the smell of ***** that was driving away her customers, not the pot. Marijuana allergy my ass. - xerigen, on 07/17/2008, -2/+15I don't understand how a raid like this is authorized. These people obviously aren't hurting anyone.
- tech42er, on 07/17/2008, -0/+11Yeah, I'm glad it was the local police that did the raid. I mean, raiding it at all was terrible, but if it had been the Feds, they wouldn't have cared that it was legal under state law.
- alapoet, on 07/17/2008, -1/+12@ jerrycurley:
It already IS a mainstream law, genius.
Has been for 10 years here in Washington. It passed with almost 60 percent of the vote. Is that enough "mainstream support" for you?
To get medical marijuana in Washington, the law spells out that you must have a "terminal or debilitating illness." How do I know? I'm a medical marijuana patient, and yes, I have a terminal illness.
Maybe you should familiarize yourself with the law before you start pontificating on it and making yourself look stupid.
Come down off your attitiude. Read the ***** news. Get a ***** clue. - zombiedepot, on 07/17/2008, -1/+11Here's a HYSTERICAL transcript for you: http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline/shows/drug ...
- mlrigsby, on 07/17/2008, -1/+11Remember, this is Seattle, the passive-aggressive capitol of the world. We don't talk to anyone, and we certainly won't openly confront our neighbors. We are much more inclined to mumble our objections to ourselves until we get fed up and whine to an authority. Then someone else has to be the bad guy!
I love Seattle, but this ***** drives me nuts. - angeladtao, on 07/17/2008, -2/+12It's ridiculous for it to be illegal anyway. I don't see any difference between pot and alcohol.
I have seen it work medically, too. My godson who was severely wounded in Iraq had GI
problems for months. He couldn't keep anything down for long, and tests showed no anatomical
reason for the nausea. When he was finally released on convalescent leave to go home,
he made use of marijuana for "medicinal" purposes. When he returned after a month, his
nausea was gone, and he had gained 10 healthy pounds! - Adamlite, on 07/17/2008, -1/+10Sure, you can be allergic to anything. I'm allergic to cinnamon. Not unbelievable someone could be allergic to weed, but it's more likely that the narc simply doesn't like it and used that as her justification for reporting her quiet, humble neighbor. Maybe she's allergic, but she's probably just a bitch.
- alapoet, on 07/17/2008, -2/+10@ jerrycurley:
It already IS a mainstream law, genius.
Has been for 10 years here in Washington. It passed with almost 60 percent of the vote. Is that enough "mainstream support" for you?
To get medical marijuana in Washington, the law spells out that you must have a "terminal or debilitating illness." How do I know? I'm a medical marijuana patient, and yes, I have a terminal illness.
Maybe you should familiarize yourself with the law before you start pontificating on it and making yourself look stupid.
Come down off your attitiude. Read the ***** news. Get a ***** clue. - BoneheadFarker, on 07/17/2008, -0/+7But they don't import pot. About 90% of the pot in the US is grown inside the US. The CIA is mainly responsible for cocaine and opium, and their various derivatives. It's the pharmacutical and chemical industries that are fighting against pot...
- geardosdotnet, on 07/17/2008, -1/+8replace marijuana with cigarette smoke and question why nobody does anything about those much more toxic fumes.
- schroeder, on 07/17/2008, -0/+7It works better in many situations than pharmaceuticals and is safer. It does increase appetite and alleviate pain were other medications fail. Creating synthetic drugs for billions of dollars and with harmful side affects is stupid when you have a working natural alternative.
- Conseal, on 07/17/2008, -0/+6"Martinez said one officer became convinced that Martinez was growing a garden in a secret room, so he ripped down part of a wall."
What? Can they even do that within a regular warrant? - zephyrnug, on 07/17/2008, -1/+7thank god I live in denver where the possession of under an ounce is legal. and come on, the guy has dam neurological damage... and a medical marijuana card.
- bpm2000, on 07/17/2008, -1/+7Seattle, the city where saying "hi" to a stranger is considered strange and weird. I hear ya.
- ap44, on 07/17/2008, -3/+9Yeah it's ***** like that, that keeps weed illegal...like wah wah wah weed makes everything in my life worse. Come on!
(I bet her "customers" were just fine with the weed anyways) - inactive, on 07/17/2008, -1/+6yup everytime time i smoke pot i start to feel funny laugh a lot and then i can't really remeber it later
- ap44, on 07/17/2008, -0/+5Uh ya it's called Feeling-Low-itus and the most common cure for this terrible medical condition is to smoke up ^_^
- kontraire, on 07/17/2008, -0/+5So lame. Medical marijuana laws are spiffy and all, but they often create a gray market where it's prohibitively difficult for patients to actually get their marijuana because the states are terrified of supplying it directly and having a direct constitutional confrontation with the federal government. Meanwhile, local police are harassing smalltime operators who are operating in the legal vacuum trying to supply medical marijuana to patients who can't grow it themselves.
And while cops are harassing legitimate medical providers, you get guys with "backaches" growing *****-tons and putting the vast majority of it straight on the black market. I'm all for legal weed, but the medical laws are pretty messed up right now. Don't even get me started on cancer patients...how the ***** is someone who supposedly has 6 months to live supposed to get a decent garden growing? It's crazy. - captaindigger, on 07/17/2008, -1/+5Talk about a lying Bitch. What proof does she have that it is the Marijuana smoke that she is allergic to? SHOW SOME PROOF YOU LYING SACK OF *****!
- DonCreech, on 07/17/2008, -1/+5"We're certainly aware people have a right to use medical marijuana," Larson said. "But that doesn't include dispensing, and it doesn't include possessing unlimited quantities."
So basically this means that a patient has all the right in the world to use medical marijuana, just as long as they don't try to obtain it. Really? Is that sensible to anyone at all? - StarofTroy, on 07/18/2008, -0/+4I used to think it smelled like *****. And then years ago I tried it and now it's the best smell ever!
- wazzledoozle2, on 07/17/2008, -1/+4"The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the States, are reserved to the States respectively, or to the people."
Federal Law does not constitutionally trump state law. That's a modern creation of our corporate government. - Tuscanspeed, on 07/17/2008, -0/+3Well, first off. I shouldn't need a doctor's prescription to grow and smoke a plant from my backyard. Do you need to consult a professional gardener to grow tomatoes? So in my opinion medical pot is simply a stepping stone to ending prohibition.
Also, no one claims it's a "cure". It's like pain medications. Advil won't cure your broken leg, but it goes a long way to helping the symptoms.
Pot won't cure your cancer. But it's nice not to be so sick from chemo you can't eat. Pot alleviates a lot of incurable, unavoidable symptoms. It's as simply as that. - geardosdotnet, on 07/17/2008, -0/+3Does that mean that someone on a religious diet can complain about the smell of forbidden meat being barbecued in their next door neighbors yard?
- inactive, on 07/17/2008, -0/+3There are people who have an allergy to marijuana and it really does harm them, but they must be living in the same neighborhood as Full House because only houses THAT close to each other could set off someone's allergy that bad.
- gbv23, on 07/17/2008, -2/+5but it wasn't the fed who did the raid-----its was local cops suspecting a violation of the STATE law----but now it appears they have come to their senses (see the update above)
- WileEPeyote, on 07/18/2008, -0/+3"I'm allergic to cigarette smoke. Does that mean I get to be a bitchy whiner too?! 8P"
Yes...yes it does. Notice all the no-smoking areas now? That's from people (maybe not you) being bitchy whiners. Not that I care one way or the other. - jameskong15, on 07/17/2008, -0/+3Well damn. And here I was all ready to be overly outraged! >:O
- inactive, on 07/17/2008, -0/+3Amen.
We're leading the way for legalizing weed. Personally, I'm all for it. You should not feel like a victim for using it for medical reasons, and others should not feel bad for using it recreation. And this is coming from a guys who doesn't even smoke it. - Phocas, on 07/17/2008, -0/+3Ouch, Jerry just got burned!!
- subliminalurge, on 07/17/2008, -0/+2I'm not too worried about that. I'm not small, I'm not weak, I'm not out of shape, and I do know how to fight. Besides, I've been in plenty of fights, and even had my ass kicked a few times. It only hurts for a few days.
It's more than worth the risk, given all the fun I've had pissing off the militantly anti-smoking ***** I've run across.
Hell, I've been hurt worse water-skiing than I ever have been in a fight. - thrallie, on 07/17/2008, -1/+3I agree with junkyjunk3 but I highly doubt anyone is actually allergic to marijuana.
- spence798, on 07/18/2008, -0/+2may not be the only treatment, but could be the best
- schroeder, on 07/17/2008, -0/+2A patient shouldn't have to be on their deathbed to use marijuana for medical use. There are far stronger, dangerous, and more addictive drugs prescribed for less. Your argument seems to show that you think a harmless drug should be used only as a resort. Arthritis, stubbed toe pain, Emphysema... why not use marijuana? People like you have a fictional idea of what marijuana actually is and what it does. Stop listening to 50 year old propaganda and do a little research on the facts. Many common drugs that ARE actually harmful and addictive could be replaced by a single little plant that is only illegal because of politics and misinformation.
- cappiez, on 07/18/2008, -0/+2jerrycurley: marijuana is the only medicine that cures my depression due to your stupidity.
- yingjai, on 07/18/2008, -0/+2Make it odorless and I won't complain about the kids next door using it for recreation. I am forced to either close all my windows on a hot summer day or inhale their fumes.
- jaybehm, on 07/17/2008, -0/+2I don't see anywhere in angeladtao's post that said it was the ONLY thing that worked, he just said that it works. The fact is that it is probably the best appetite stimulant that this world has. Anyway, thanks for your pointless interjection.
- Black6x, on 07/18/2008, -0/+2Meat isn't an illegal or controlled substance.
- flashingcurser, on 07/17/2008, -2/+4"The woman said she's highly allergic to marijuana and suffered headaches and dizziness. She said the smell was warding away some of her customers."
Nosy busy-body *****. - sinator, on 07/17/2008, -0/+2ptsuk, don't even try to compare medical marijuana abuse with that of "oxycontent, xannax, vicodine". All three of the drugs you mentioned are far more legal, and infinitely more deadly.
- LilRabbitFooFoo, on 08/11/2008, -1/+3I'm allergic to cigarette smoke. Does that mean I get to be a bitchy whiner too?! 8P
Seriously, I prefer to avoid smokers and smoking areas. Not hard to do in California. - muhfuhkuh, on 07/17/2008, -0/+2http://www.marinol.com/
They synthetically re-created THC to treat nausea and appetite loss.
And, I suppose since there are several options that treat the same thing, everyone on earth should only use the one you approve of because it works for you why not for them, right Jesus? -
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