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- ohnoerino, on 10/07/2008, -0/+80Yes.
- schizogony, on 10/07/2008, -1/+57This explains why Uwe Boll is always so upbeat and chipper.
- Kronich, on 10/07/2008, -0/+45There as always been a close link between genius and insanity. I think it's that these type of people think differenlty from the norm, which allows them to see outside the box. Viva 'differences' - how boring would it be if we were all the same!
- FredFredrickson, on 10/07/2008, -7/+43I'm a creative, artistic guy, and from my own personal experience, I can honestly say that
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***** YOU, I'M NOT HAVING ANY GODAMNED MOOD DISORDERS, *****! - coolcash2005, on 10/07/2008, -0/+20As interesting as these readings can be, I hate it when news sources state the obvious rather than simply elaborate on why this would occur. I mean, does it really require "Experts" to "Ponder"?
- sirjimithy, on 10/07/2008, -0/+19"There is no creative impulse in the absence of discontent" - Deepak Chopra
- Tyrghast, on 10/07/2008, -0/+19The line between genius and insanity is measured only by success.
- MAARRS, on 10/07/2008, -1/+19Duh, ya' think?
Dugg for the DFWallace pic. - str1, on 10/07/2008, -1/+18Good story
- BoneheadFarker, on 10/07/2008, -0/+15There's a reason why bipolar disorder is prevelent in Hollywood...
- brianmita, on 10/07/2008, -1/+15as a sculpture student with ADHD, this article is great to explain things to my more normal friends.
- MrJagil, on 10/07/2008, -3/+17Jesus christ, what is up with these obvious answers for creativity. Kierkegaard explicitly said that he saw an immediate link between his depression and his philosophical thinking(i consider philosophy the prize winner of creative subjects). When you are depressed, you think more. And you will realise how much everything suck, which starts a chain reaction. I had a girl friend who was depressive. The doctors ACTUALLY told her to think less. If you keep your mind busy, you won't sink in.
Also, there is a clear connection between intellect and depression. How many hillbilly rednecks do you see with depression? How many extremely intelligent people do you see with depression(i just mentioned Kierkegaard)? (not saying there is a direct link between intellect and creativity)
Also (again), some time ago i read a topic regarding the connection between day dreaming and creativity. YOU THINK?!?! Why do you start drawing and thinking about dinosaurs/neverland when you are bored in classes? Your mind wanders...
Sorry, this was just a spur of the moment rant, had to let it out. - bigp3rm, on 10/07/2008, -0/+12I think that explains me. Being an artist myself it's all clear to me now. I'm sick in da head =(. Guess I qualify for medical marijuana now!
As a side note I see these characteristics in a lot of programmers I have worked with over the years. - joe7845, on 10/07/2008, -0/+12There are actual studies on this. See, for example, "Creativity in familial bipolar disorder" (Simeonova et al, 2005).
Somewhat related findings in regards to Asperger Syndrome: "Superior fluid intelligence in children with Asperger’s disorder" (Hayashi et al, 2007) - citizenchan, on 10/07/2008, -3/+15SHUT UP I HATE YOU. omg I'm so sorry. My life is horrible. I love the world...
- inactive, on 10/07/2008, -2/+12Non-standard. Dissonant. Against the grain. Uncommon. Unusual. Unique. Outside the box. Beyond the norm. Alternative.
When I hear anybody describe their musings or work as any of these phrases, it usually rings a bell in my head that they are really obsessed with the idea of being novel, and have less interest in the meaning of their creations.
Being different is great. Don't do it just because you enjoy being labeled "different", actually create something that has meaning that is rarely seen. Otherwise, your "creativity" is just glorified vanity. - pitdog, on 10/07/2008, -2/+12Yes. When I'm creating and somebody disturbs me, my mood can change.
- inactive, on 10/07/2008, -0/+9stanford did a study on the relationship between bi polar and creative genius
results conclusive
it seems that bi polar is essentially emotional broadband
which is fantastic for creativity but nightmarish for day to day reality
http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2002/05/02052 ... - sadhesati, on 10/07/2008, -2/+11That actually sounds more like borderline personality disorder than it does bipolar disorder.
Just sayin'. - OwdenBowden, on 10/07/2008, -1/+10100 Percent. I am living proof.
But I would also add that throughout history you find very creative and intelligence individuals that have some form of a "disorder" which is actually the fuel for the processing. - rootsm3, on 10/07/2008, -1/+9I'm nuts but I question my genius when I pour my OJ in a bowl in the morning. Maybe it's my insanity leaking into my genius.
- lowjinks, on 10/07/2008, -0/+8dugg for: "The arts are more dangerous [than other professions] because they require sensitivity to a large extent," he said. "If you go too far you can pay a price -- you can be too sensitive to live in this world."
- GordonFree, on 10/07/2008, -1/+7My case might be interesting to some of you who also suffer from bipolar and depression.
When I was very young I was a very science oriented geek, great student in sciences, joyful kid (even though I was bullied because kids are mean to classmates with higher scores). I started playing piano at age 11 and for years I slowly started shifting to a more artistic world. at age 15 I was playing guitar and singing, and today I'm a composer and rock musician at 25, I'm working on an album.
The funny thing is, that slow transformation that i forced upon myself, from scientific mind to creative mind, was not without increasing cases of recurring nervous depression. Even though being depressed does stop me from creating more effectively, which sucks. I'm not very efficient anyway.
I'm depressed right now actually due to some problems that triggered it. It might last for a couple days only.
I think I'm starting to get used to live with it, but you never know, obviously.
So yeah... keep fighting, people! :) - kingUssop, on 10/07/2008, -3/+9Is there a link between eating jars of mayo and getting fat?
- acroyear2, on 10/07/2008, -0/+6I hate these stereotypes... I also hate how painfully true they can be.
- kolyana, on 10/07/2008, -0/+6Awesome.
My boss is the creative type and it's always hit and miss what sort of day I'm going to have. Often she's an outright bitch that makes my life a living and breathing hell; the next day she'll throw pay raises around, the very next day start threatening to fire people. It's f**king awful. - inactive, on 10/07/2008, -1/+7Well Tolstoy died a homeless whacko in a train station, and Hemingway blew is head off with a shotgun... so yeah.
- relaxeder, on 04/17/2009, -0/+6Thanks for sharing this.
- teethandeyes, on 10/07/2008, -0/+6Not to be a negative Nancy, but isn't this common knowledge?
I would start to list examples, but I don't feel like typing for the next 10 hours. - inkswamp, on 10/07/2008, -0/+6I suspect one of the key missing elements with imbalanced, creative people is a sense of humor--especially of the self-deprecating variety. I come into contact with creative types all the time (and consider myself one as well) and I notice a huge divide between the moody, "imbalanced" ones and the ones who have a good sense of humor--and almost never do I see those two traits side-by-side. Both groups are equally creative but only one is tolerable to be around. I suspect these personalities are largely the same except some have figured out how to use humor as an outlet so it doesn't affect their mood. I think the moody types have fallen into the trap of taking themselves and their work *way* too seriously which turns into a vicious circle kind of thing. Try critiquing the work of an artist with a sense of humor versus a moody artist and you'll see markedly different reactions. One will take it into consideration as constructive criticism, the other will take it as a personal attack.
- Tyrghast, on 10/07/2008, -1/+7Programmers develop disorders because they forget how to interact with real people. A friend of mine a computer tech for a bank in amarillo, and he's a cool guy but too often he mistakes jokes for criticism or insults. Whenever there's guests or a party at his place, he'll say hi and then go to his room and close the door for the remainder of the night.
- Metanoid, on 10/07/2008, -0/+6see this
Loose but Normal: A Semantic Association Study :
http://xrl.in/hmc - danlowlite, on 10/07/2008, -0/+5Doubtful. I mean, people I've tried to explain such things to, unless they're already similar, seem to blow it off or go "whatever," or "he's not creative, he can barely draw stick figures," especially if your condition is chronic (not a Dr. Dre reference).
Depression, obsession, rumination, and other assorted -ions (not a Tool reference): most people don't care.
Sorry. I wish I am wrong and I just need new people to hang out with. - barryiggins, on 10/07/2008, -0/+5Is there a correlation? maybe, probably. I just have a problem if this is cause to start stereotyping personalities or making leaps in assumption.
I also would find it refreshing if we explore the possibility depression isn't necessarily an "issue" or disease that needs curing... I think it can be coped and lived with, without medication, and I think people have the capacity to not be slaves to their thoughts and emotions much more than they give themselves credit for. creative outlets definitely play a role there. - norman619, on 10/07/2008, -0/+5The short answer is yes.
True genius requires the ability to think "outside the box." To see things in ways normal people can't. That means your mental processes are abnormal. All of the truly intelligent people I have ever met were always a bit off. It's what made them interesting as well. Now does this mean all people who are a bit off are intelligent/geniuses? No it does not. It just means it seems to be a prerequisite. - kirado4, on 10/07/2008, -2/+7Is there a link between crappy journalism and insanity?
- teethandeyes, on 10/07/2008, -0/+5You said, 'When you are depressed, you think more.'
Perhaps people are depressed because they 'think more'. - Skywise, on 10/07/2008, -0/+5Yeah but probably the reverse is true. Creativity is thinking outside of the box, or seeing situations in different lights. Most people are content to follow the usual road so they're not perceived as creative only because they haven't tried. My guess is Mood disorders "cause" (boost?) creativity because they force the person into "non-standard" modes of thought.
- inactive, on 10/07/2008, -0/+5lol sorry
- WhiskeyLemur, on 06/30/2009, -0/+4The article (commendably enough) doesn't indicate a causal relationship in either direction - it just says there's a link.
- rootsm3, on 10/07/2008, -0/+4Van Gogh chopped his ear off...I think this question has been answered many times over.
- inactive, on 10/07/2008, -0/+4i can attest to this.
- RodBorn, on 10/07/2008, -7/+11I am creative and I have no irregular mental disorders
...so quit talking about me! - DangerCollie, on 10/07/2008, -1/+5When I was visiting a friend in rehab, I noticed a lot of people in the dual diagnosis ward were the artistic types. Some of them could rap spontaneously, it was quite clever. They even had a word for it, called it "clanging". Some of them were very entertaining.
I used to date the aunt of a very famous but troubled rock star who sadly ended up committing suicide. He was very similar to many of the people you'd find in rehab. Brilliant but troubled, frequently self-medicating with drugs and alcohol.
Not all creative people are mental, but there does seem to be a high correlation.
Another thing I noticed, a large portion of the female guests in the dual ward were gay. This one gal had a girlfriend that could melt the paint off a BMW. She was HOT. And her friend in rehab....eeeew. Scruffy, chunky diesel dyke. The only thing different between me and him- her -was half a chromosome. Just didn't seem fair. I can understand women liking other women, but what's the point of women liking women who look like men? Come on! Is it that bad just because it's attached? - moomza, on 10/07/2008, -0/+4Yes. Bipolar disorder is related to epilepsy. Both are a type of seizure, but the way the seizure state manifests between the two could not be more different. Migraine has also been recently categorized as a seizure related illness.
Anti-convulsive/seizure medications, such as Depakote, are used to treat all of these illnesses.
Alcohol is a (temporary) anti-convulsant. Many people with Bipolar illness are considered Alcoholics because that is how they self-medicate. Often they are not true alcoholics, they just don't have the proper treatment. - TheMachine1, on 10/07/2008, -0/+4Thats the nature of empathy we can not understand people in alien situations very well. Interesting a creative person by definition is more empathetic though.
- WriterSD, on 10/07/2008, -0/+4That's a great point. Humor is by far the best coping mechanism.
- banthis, on 10/07/2008, -2/+6/cut wrist?
- frozensnake, on 10/07/2008, -0/+4"you can be too sensitive to live in this world."
whooaahh. - Synn, on 10/07/2008, -1/+5It's possible I guess but I don't....oh whatever...***** you...I'm gonna go paint.
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