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- chubbybubba, on 05/20/2008, -4/+56Google is getting scary.
- Eisim, on 05/20/2008, -2/+53i can't make up my mind if this is a good or a bad thing....
- yooftheness, on 05/20/2008, -1/+48can't wait for GoogleDefense: give your missile launch codes to google
- mvanhorn, on 05/20/2008, -2/+40Direct link https://www.google.com/health/p/
- nvillalobos, on 05/20/2008, -3/+36Dubious. Log into your google acct and check it out for yourself. Uploading and sharing medical files online with 3rd party sites? Google selected doctors? Sharing all of my medical history on the interwebs..with the man?
Yea, I'm cool off that. - sfrench, on 05/20/2008, -3/+33From a technological standpoint, something like this gives a huge dataset to Google to do things like look for correlated health conditions and drug interactions. But from a privacy standpoint, I can't imagine why an individual would want to give this data to them.
- thelif, on 05/20/2008, -3/+23I wish they'd abuse my health information, do you know how much money I'd get in litigation if they did?
- Briii, on 05/20/2008, -3/+21And soon google will have complete Domination
- thelif, on 05/20/2008, -0/+17Honestly though, if I was older and have a more complex health history and medication list, I would enjoy an integrated site that has all of my information. My grandparents have hypertension and diabetes type 2 and go to doctors often and they don't speak english, so it'd be great if I can look up what medication they should be taking or when I fill in medical history charts for them at the doctor's office.
- ihazstatus, on 05/20/2008, -3/+16I'm assuming the above comments are all coming from relatively healthy people that have not had to deal with keeping all of their medical information in one place. There is nothing more frustrating than waiting months for an appointment only to find that your primary care doctor did not forward all of your necessary information. If implemented correctly, this is a revolutionary system that will not only benefit individual patients, but the system as a whole.
Thank you, Google. - sfrench, on 05/20/2008, -1/+12Ok, so let's say google has my results from my 23andme genetic test, my complete pharmacy history, every immunization and hospital stay, and doctor bill I've ever had. What happens if/when this data somehow gets released to my insurance provider (be it accident, on purpose, or via a change in health record laws)
That's right, they analyze *everything*. And heaven forbid they find a single genetic defect or expensive procedure on your medical record.
It's just a game I would rather not play. - Rally603, on 05/20/2008, -2/+11I'm really trying, but I can't seem to come up with any negative consequences to telling them I had meningitis 5 years ago and that I sometimes take a sleeping pill.
Give me a break. - SitPoMk, on 05/20/2008, -5/+13Goodbye WebMD! hello Google... just another way you found a way to penetrate my daily life
- ivansusanin, on 05/20/2008, -2/+8hypochondriacs rejoice
- ihazstatus, on 05/20/2008, -2/+8The thing isn't asking for your friggin' SSN. . . Why not create an alias so in the worst case scenario you are still not personally identifiable? I don't see the harm in that. When you need your records, they can be accessed and printed via your account and forwarded conveniently to the necessary parties with your consent.
Or you could trust Google, which I do, to not disclose personally identifiable information. Hell, HIIPA already allows for the disclosure of non-identifiable information for research purposes.
I just think the good way outweighs the bad with this and i'll argue in favor of Google all day long. - HunkOfLove, on 05/20/2008, -1/+6"We will not share your health data with individuals or third parties unless you explicitly tell us to do so or except in certain limited circumstances described in our privacy policy."
"We will not share your health data...except in certain limited circumstances"
well, that's nice
https://www.google.com/health/html/faq.html - uhhNo, on 05/20/2008, -2/+7***** thing SUCKS!
great, now Google knows EVERYTHING about me - Envark, on 05/20/2008, -0/+4Boobs.
- NJank, on 05/20/2008, -0/+4honestly though, if I was older and have a more complex health history and medication list, the last things I would want to do is take the time to input all of that into Google...
- Envark, on 05/20/2008, -1/+4Scarily awesome, you mean?
- redbna, on 05/20/2008, -0/+3@ksgant
Your insurance provider *May* have that info or have access to that info, however, insurance companies are notoriously poor communicators of information within their own networks. If they had access to google's aggregated info I'm sure they'd pay handsomely in order to *individualize* each plans' premiums or to issue denial of coverage letters for pre-existing conditions - all to improve bottom line. - hydratedsquash, on 05/20/2008, -2/+5we all know what the #1 search term will be
- bluntphallus, on 05/20/2008, -2/+5***** you.
- bstew22, on 05/20/2008, -2/+5stfu
- tomazkovacic, on 05/20/2008, -2/+5Yes it is! I laugh everytime I see a "***** THING SUCKS" comment.
- inrain, on 05/20/2008, -0/+3I don't think you're seeing the grand picture. Heck, even ISPs have had to bow down to the government and submit to dual-channeling all info to an undercover operation, under the guise of "national security" and the Patriot Act. There was a piece on 60 Minutes about that last year, I believe. But Google's level of information access takes it way beyond that. The continued vacuum of Google being the gateway into everything is set to create the most sophisticated profiling system of every person imaginable.
Best of all, it doesn't require any forced submission. Sheep submit willingly. You better believe, now that Bush has opened Pandora's Box on civil liberties, the gov't will find a way to work with Google in years to come, if not already. And we'll probably never hear about it, without some poor sap risking it all to blow the whistle.
It's long known that MS, Yahoo, and all the others cooperate with the gov't. Hell, even systems like Facebook have impressive connections to the FBI/gov't. But, whatever, by all means, put everything you do and look for into one place, under one corporation, Google. It's your right. - monospaced, on 05/20/2008, -0/+3Or just play a game of Global Thermonuclear War.
- Metasquares, on 05/20/2008, -0/+3WebMD doesn't require a sign-in. Google does. WebMD wins.
- thelif, on 05/20/2008, -0/+3get your grandson to do it :P
- djdole, on 05/20/2008, -1/+4You obviously don't understand the concept here and haven't read the privacy statements.
- Envark, on 05/20/2008, -1/+4I want your mommy too!
- inrain, on 05/20/2008, -0/+3I think it's a fair enough analogy. It doesn't have to be precise. The point is that Google should not be handed the keys to so much power (knowing everything about you). Future negative consequences happen just for that reason: believing someone won't become power hungry and all-controlling down the line... and then they do.
- uptown, on 05/20/2008, -0/+2What makes you think Google isn't already owned by the government?
- redbna, on 05/20/2008, -0/+2This could also very easily be the source of your next denial of coverage letter you receive from your HMO.
- displacednomad, on 05/20/2008, -0/+2oh oh oh, me too...
At no time did I agree to Google Health. Still don't approve of a national ID card. I'm against it all, really. No hypocrisy on my part. - ArchD, on 05/20/2008, -0/+2Not to be critical here, but they didn't actually say "except in certain limited circumstances". They actually listed the "limited circumstances" in the privacy policy.
- Starfire42, on 05/21/2008, -0/+2Hypochondriacs heaven?
- 2ndEdition, on 05/20/2008, -1/+3doctors will just ask you guys to print out your google health information. they have no idea what paperless means. they must write everything on paper and sign it, because it proves they are responsible for your health.
- Envark, on 05/20/2008, -0/+2Voluntary vs. involuntary.
- dig1x, on 05/20/2008, -0/+1Microsoft has a vastly more mature and capable solution, Google's project here seems rather anemic.
http://www.microsoft.com/hsg/
http://www.microsoft.com/amalga/default.mspx
http://www.healthvault.com/ - RyeBrye, on 05/20/2008, -1/+2No, you aren't. There is no point.
Oh - and for anyone who says "oh, but doctors can use this information." - No, they can't. They wont trust anything that you put into a health record yourself, because you aren't a doctor. PHR's (Personal Health Records) are not very useful. EHR (Electronic Health Records) - on the other hand - are... - Metasquares, on 05/20/2008, -0/+1Data is very seldom the problem in medical research (save, perhaps, for rare conditions)
- wiretapped, on 05/20/2008, -3/+4I for one welcome our new Google government.
- whalt, on 05/20/2008, -0/+1I hear they are giving away free bandages with little text ads on them,
- Jaymo89, on 05/20/2008, -0/+1If something's important, it better damn well be on paper. The only other option is having many redundancies for failsafe.
If a HDD fails (inevitable) then data is lost.
If the power is gone, you can't access your data.
If the network is misconfigured, you can't access your data.
And yeah, signatures are important too :P. - ksgant, on 05/20/2008, -1/+2Your insurance provider already has that info...don't kid yourself into thinking that everything is hidden from them.
- DustyinBFE, on 05/20/2008, -0/+1Sharing Authorization Agreement:
I hereby authorize Google to share the health information contained in my Google Health profile(s) in its entirety, to only those entities and individuals I designate, for the purpose of providing me with medical care and for the purpose of sharing my information with others that I choose.
I understand and agree that this authorization permits the disclosure of health or treatment information about me, to the entities and individuals I designate, that may also contain sensitive information relating to the following:
* HIV or AIDS
* Mental illness or any mental health condition
* Alcohol or substance abuse
* Sexually transmitted diseases
* Pregnancy
* Abortion or other family planning
* Genetic tests or genetic diseases
I understand and agree that this authorization also covers any record that was created by a doctor or other health care provider other than the doctor or health care provider who supplied the record to Google Health.
This authorization will remain in effect and permit the ongoing disclosure by Google of information in the Google Health Service until I delete my profile(s) in the Google Health Service entirely or revoke the authorization. I may revoke this authorization at any time by using the features or options described in the Google Health FAQ. I understand that my revocation will not apply to actions Google has already taken in reliance on my prior authorization.
I understand and agree that in addition to the information I choose to share, Google may only share information in the limited circumstances described in the Google Health Privacy Policy.
I understand that I may request a copy of this authorization at any time. - brianara3, on 05/20/2008, -0/+1I would have to agree here... Google has always been really involved with the scientific community. Who's to say they don't put massive amounts of aggregate data together for scientific study? They may even find links between certain types of medications and medical side-effects, or even growing trends of specific types of illnesses.
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