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- shawngreg, on 06/23/2008, -18/+89I've never thought it was a good idea to add fluoride to the water supply.
- inactive, on 06/24/2008, -6/+64Do you know when fluoridation first began?
1946...
How does that coincide with your post-war Commie conspiracy, huh? It's incredibly obvious, isn't it? A foreign substance is introduced into our precious bodily fluids without the knowledge of the individual. Certainly without any choice.
That's the way your hard-core Commie works. - ileftfark, on 06/24/2008, -8/+601. The article provided no substantial long-term studies proving a detrimental effect of flouride.
2. I'm more worried about the growing levels of Viagra, Paxil, and Zoloft in my water than the flouride. - inactive, on 06/23/2008, -1/+41I just remember the whole fluoridation in "Dr. Strangelove."
- Raiper, on 06/24/2008, -2/+41Dugg for the title pun.
- inactive, on 06/23/2008, -6/+40It is pretty toxic. Plenty of evidence that fluoride can mottle teeth.
- inactive, on 06/24/2008, -11/+40Adding a halogen such as F on top of Cl is nothing short of amazingly stupid. While Cl can be filtered out via a decent charcoal filter, the filtration of F requires specialized filters.
So, was the F concentration calculated based on the max dose acceptable for infants whose mothers make formula? Of course not. If you're stuck on a municipal water source, spend the $$ and get a filtration system that removes the Cl, the F and the trihalomethanes that end up from the reactions between the halogen and ammonium compounds in your water.
Head down to your local university and meet the professors whose research focuses on Fluorine. Don't be surprised if they're missing a finger or two. While that has nothing to do with ingesting Fluorine, it does tell you that it's not something to play with. - chaddles, on 06/24/2008, -2/+30There was some Australian legislation introduced recently to start spraying fluoride on our fresh food produce. I don't see any advantage to this. Fluoride only really helps teeth when it's applied locally, as in toothpaste. If you are drinking or eating it, it won't do much for your teeth.
Any legislation that takes away your right to decide what goes in your body is bad legislation. - inactive, on 06/24/2008, -8/+36Didn't know there were so many anti-fluoride folks on Digg
- BlueSkyfish, on 06/24/2008, -2/+29I think you're confusing anti-cavity fluoride (sodium fluoride) with hydrofluoric acid.
- fixty, on 06/24/2008, -5/+32Go check your toothpaste tube - all Fluoride toothpastes have a warning printed on them saying:
"Contact Poison Control if you swallow more than the amount used for brushing."
So what's the cumulative effect of a lifetime of daily low dose poisoning?
(Xylitol toothpastes naturally strengthen your enamel w/o fluoride) - vault, on 06/24/2008, -32/+57Are all of these organizations supporting water fluoridation part of a vast conspiracy to control our minds, or do they recognize the health benefits?
Academy of Dentistry International
Academy of General Dentistry
Academy for Sports Dentistry
Alzheimer’s Association
America’s Health Insurance Plans
American Academy of Family Physicians
American Academy of Nurse Practitioners
American Academy of Oral and Maxillofacial Pathology
American Academy of Orthopaedic Surgeons
American Academy of Pediatrics
American Academy of Pediatric Dentistry
American Academy of Periodontology
American Academy of Physician Assistants
American Association for Community Dental Programs
American Association for Dental Research
American Association for Health Education
American Association for the Advancement of Science
American Association of Endodontists
American Association of Oral and Maxillofacial Surgeons
American Association of Orthodontists
American Association of Public Health Dentistry
American Association of Women Dentists
American Cancer Society
American College of Dentists
American College of Physicians–American Society
of Internal Medicine
American College of Preventive Medicine
American College of Prosthodontists
American Council on Science and Health
American Dental Assistants Association
American Dental Association
American Dental Education Association
American Dental Hygienists’ Association
American Dietetic Association
American Federation of Labor and Congress
of Industrial Organizations
American Hospital Association
American Legislative Exchange Council
American Medical Association
American Nurses Association
American Osteopathic Association
American Pharmacists Association
American Public Health Association
American School Health Association
American Society for Clinical Nutrition
American Society for Nutritional Sciences
American Student Dental Association
American Water Works Association
Association for Academic Health Centers
Association of American Medical Colleges
Association of Clinicians for the Underserved
Association of Maternal and Child Health Programs
Association of State and Territorial Dental Directors
Association of State and Territorial Health Officials
Association of State and Territorial Public Health
Nutrition Directors
British Fluoridation Society
Canadian Dental Association
Canadian Dental Hygienists Association
Canadian Medical Association
Canadian Nurses Association
Canadian Paediatric Society
Canadian Public Health Association
Child Welfare League of America
Children’s Dental Health Project
Chocolate Manufacturers Association
Consumer Federation of America
Council of State and Territorial Epidemiologists
Delta Dental Plans Association
FDI World Dental Federation
Federation of American Hospitals
Hispanic Dental Association
Indian Dental Association (U.S.A.)
Institute of Medicine
International Association for Dental Research
International Association for Orthodontics
International College of Dentists
March of Dimes Birth Defects Foundation
National Association of Community Health Centers
National Association of County and City Health Officials
National Association of Dental Assistants
National Association of Local Boards of Health
National Association of Social Workers
National Confectioners Association
National Council Against Health Fraud
National Dental Assistants Association
National Dental Association
National Dental Hygienists’ Association
National Down Syndrome Congress
National Down Syndrome Society
National Eating Disorders Association
National Foundation of Dentistry for the Handicapped
National Head Start Association
National Health Law Program
National Healthy Mothers, Healthy Babies Coalition
Oral Health America
Robert Wood Johnson Foundation
Society for Public Health Education
Society of American Indian Dentists
Special Care Dentistry
Academy of Dentistry for Persons with Disabilities
American Association of Hospital Dentists
American Society for Geriatric Dentistry
The Children’s Health Fund
The Dental Health Foundation (of California)
U.S. Department of Defense
U.S. Department of Veterans Affairs
U.S. Public Health Service
Health Resources and Services Administration (HRSA)
Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC)
National Institute of Dental and Craniofacial Research (NIDCR)
World Federation of Orthodontists
World Health Organization
http://www.ada.org/public/topics/fluoride/facts/co ... - chanop, on 06/23/2008, -11/+36When fluoride is in your water source, what does continuous use to do your teeth, skin, stomach, house plants, animals, and most importantly my super-soaker 5000 (I don't want it to rot the plastic)?
- johlorax, on 06/24/2008, -5/+28Ironically, too much natural fluorine will stain your teeth brown...but there isn't much thats 'natural' about the fluoride in your toothpaste.
Interesting that the article talks about the controversy without even touching on the science of fluoridation or how it might be flawed - pathetic journalism! - Cryptocracy, on 08/17/2008, -13/+36Powerful forces want you to drink Fluoride, and they ain't the dental association. questioning Fluoride is similar to questioning the official 9/11 report. I wonder why? (I already know what the trolls will say)
- witchaven, on 06/24/2008, -15/+37It's called compartmentalization. Most dentists are well meaning but their education has told them that drinking sodium fluoride is good, and they don't seem to question it very much. A little thought would shed some doubt on the matter, though. For instance, why do we need to ingest fluoride when it's already in toothpaste and mouthwash? Why, according to the 1986-1987 National Survey of US Schoolchildren, do children who live in places without water fluoridation seem to have just as many or fewer cavities as those who live in fluoridated areas? ( http://www.fluoridealert.org/health/teeth/caries/n ... ) Why isn't fluoridation left up to the individual? The fact alone that this is being forced upon people is cause for concern, especially since the supposed benefits are so dubious to begin with.
- jewdiknight, on 06/24/2008, -5/+27If the reason for adding fluride into the water is because it is good for us, then why don't they add vitamins as well?
- inactive, on 06/24/2008, -1/+22At least you'll be calm and rigid at the same time. C'mon.
- PATSCRU, on 06/24/2008, -0/+20Since when was fluoride glorious? Everyone knows bromide is much more glorious.
- obliviousfool, on 06/24/2008, -1/+20I still don't understand the point of swallowing it!
Do people have teeth in their stomachs? - swrostmore, on 06/24/2008, -4/+23If you could post a link to a recording of Alex Jones interviewing some guy on his show, calling the guy a retard, and then saying "don't feel bad, I'm retarded too...we're all retarded, because of the flouridation." I would appreciate it. I lolled pretty ***** hard when I heard that interview.
- Absalon, on 06/23/2008, -7/+26depends on how much is in it, but from what understand anything below .009ppm is completly safe. you swallow more than that brushing your teeth.
- sjmueller, on 06/24/2008, -10/+27Did you know if you drink too much water in one sitting, you can get water poisoning? And water poisoning can be fatal. So I say we should look into the cumulative effect of a lifetime of daily hydration.
- nInn, on 06/24/2008, -4/+21You are being naive if you are willing to blindly believe in something solely on the basis of how many government agencies support it. One simple thing to consider is where the fluoride comes from. It's actually a byproduct of aluminum production.
Look at these videos and search for more yourself:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mAasMtT411E
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hRLz4a7lDVM&
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rRVYXLBqHV4 - Shootfast, on 06/24/2008, -0/+16Dugg for HILTSWALTB
- Typhoon2009, on 06/24/2008, -2/+17On one hand, well, a hell of a lot of doctors condone it. On the other hand, we used asbestos for the longest time...
- BlueSkyfish, on 06/24/2008, -5/+20How could we be so foolish? Its all over, the reds win. Thank God we at least don't have free health care like those commie sumbitches in Canada and England..
- barkus, on 06/24/2008, -1/+16Fluoridation is not about "children’s teeth," it is about industry getting rid of its hazardous waste at a profit, instead of having to pay a fortune to dispose of it.
Only calcium fluoride occurs naturally in water; however, that type of fluoride has never been used for fluoridation. Instead what is used over 90 percent of the time are silicofluorides, which are 85 times more toxic than calcium fluoride.
They are non-biodegradable, hazardous waste products that come straight from the pollution scrubbers of big industries. If not dumped in the public water supplies, these silicofluorides would have to be neutralized at the highest rated hazardous waste facility at a cost of $1.40 per gallon (or more depending on how much cadmium, lead, uranium and arsenic are also present). Cities buy these unrefined pollutants and dump them--lead, arsenic and all--into our water systems. Silicofluorides are almost as toxic as arsenic, and more toxic than lead.
http://www.westonaprice.org/envtoxins/fluoridation ... - akston, on 06/24/2008, -3/+18Here's a clinician who has the credentials to speak on this matter, at least!
Why I am now officially opposed to adding fluoride to drinking water
Dr. Hardy Limeback, BSc, PhD, DDS
Associate Professor and Head, Preventive Dentistry
University of Toronto
http://www.fluoridealert.org/limeback.htm - Livebold, on 06/24/2008, -4/+18Fluoride was never approved for human consumption by the fda. It was grand fathered in. What was it's original purpose???? RAT POISON!!!!!!!
http://digg.com/general_sciences/Fluoride_Never_FD ... - vault, on 06/24/2008, -13/+27"Most dentists are well meaning but their education has told them that drinking sodium fluoride is good"
Yeah, those stupid dentists and their dental school educations. What would they know about teeth anyway? If only they had gone on the internet and read a prisonplanet article, then their opinion would be as qualified as yours. - treeflappa, on 06/24/2008, -1/+15Wasn't fluoride used on the prisoners in the gulag to sedate them??
- zephc, on 06/24/2008, -2/+15Calm and rigid - I think they call that 'rigor mortis'
- wissler, on 06/24/2008, -4/+17We didn't need the conspiracy theories to know that adding medication to the public water supply was a bad idea. If corporations were delivering water to our homes rather than governments, there'd be no way they'd get away with forcing flouride down our throats. Nobody would have trusted them to medicate us. But when it's the government then the majority of sheep think it's good. Even if it's benign, flouride is a good litmus test for how much ***** you can get the masses to swallow.
- Hetman, on 06/24/2008, -1/+14They should just skip the BS and start putting THC in our water.
- cgbspender, on 06/24/2008, -5/+18If I think I need anything extra in my water I will add it. Fluoride may be beneficial or it may be not, I dont care. What I care about is that stupid socialist attitude "We are the state. We know what is good for you and even though you are an adult you can not decide for yourself. If we think something is good for you we will force it onto you, whether you like it or not"
- dafragsta, on 06/24/2008, -5/+17Questioning ANYTHING is not retarded. It's a sign of intelligence.
- inactive, on 06/24/2008, -0/+12All hail bromide the glorious!
- inactive, on 06/24/2008, -0/+12Ah. That's why I'm not a chemist. Thanks!
- dukeeeey, on 06/24/2008, -18/+30Calcium fluoride might be beneficial, but sodium fluoride (what is in toothpaste and is also what they use to kill rats) or sodium fluorosilicates are extremely poisonous.
Fluoride in the water also actually retardates you. This probably explains why Americans are so god damn stupid. Here's the studies if you doubt what I say.
“We found that exposure to fluoride (F) in urine was associated with reduced Performance, Verbal, and Full IQ scores before and after adjusting for confounders. The same pattern was observed for models with F in water as the exposure variable.... The individual effect of F in urine indicated that for each mg increase of F in urine a decrease of 1.7 points in Full IQ might be expected.”
SOURCE: Rocha-Amador D, et al. (2007). Decreased intelligence in children and exposure to fluoride and arsenic in drinking water. Cadernos de Saude Publica 23(Suppl 4):S579-87.
"These negative correlations between IQ and urinary As and between IQ and urinary fluoride indicate that exposure to high levels of As or fluoride, or both, could affect children’s intelligence... This study indicates that exposure to fluoride in drinking water is associated with neurotoxic effects in children."
SOURCE: Wang SX, et al. (2007). Arsenic and fluoride exposure in drinking water: children's IQ and growth in Shanyin county, Shanxi province, China. Environmental Health Perspectives 115(4):643-7.
"In agreement with other studies elsewhere, these findings indicate that children drinking high F water are at risk for impaired development of intelligence."
SOURCE: Trivedi MH, et al. (2007). Effect of high fluoride water on intelligence of school children in India. Fluoride 40(3):178-183.
“The IQ of the 60 children in the high-fluoride area was significantly lower than that of the 58 children in the low-fluoride area... More children in the high-fluoride area were in the retardation or borderline categories of IQ than children in the low fluoride area. An inverse relationship was also present between IQ and the urinary fluoride level. Exposure of children to high levels of fluoride may therefore carry the risk of impaired development of intelligence.”
SOURCE: Lu Y, et al (2000). Effect of high-fluoride water on intelligence of children. Fluoride 33:74-78.
“The intelligence was measured of 907 children aged 8-13 years living in areas which differed in the amount of fluoride present in the environment. The Intelligence Quotient (IQ) of children living in areas with a medium or severe prevalence of fluorosis was lower than that of children living in areas with only slight fluorosis or no fluorosis. The development of intelligence appeared to be adversely affected by fluoride in the areas with a medium or severe prevalence of fluorosis. A high fluoride intake was associated with a lower intelligence.”
SOURCE: Li XS. (1995). Effect of Fluoride Exposure on Intelligence in Children. Fluoride 28:189-192.
I could go on like this all day. There are hundreds of studies saying the same.
http://www.fluoridealert.org/health/brain/ - Lone1, on 06/24/2008, -0/+11deny them the essence!
- cubbiesx, on 06/24/2008, -1/+12nothing makes an apple taste better than a fresh spraying of fluoride.
- santaliqueur, on 06/24/2008, -3/+14There are anti-everything people here.
- Thinbev, on 06/24/2008, -1/+12Our government cares a lot about our teeth? Weird.
In that case they should also medicate our water with shampoo and conditioner to improve our hair... It doesn't matter if it's toxic to drink, shampoo water is very healthy and very safe...
Why don't they medicate our water with sunblock? We need government to protect us from sunburn and skin cancer... (Sarcasm)
- kuwan, on 06/24/2008, -1/+12Uh, HumanCattle, listen, tell me, tell me, HumanCattle. When did you first... become... well, develop this theory?
- nyscof, on 06/24/2008, -14/+24Take Action to End Fluoridation
http//congress.FluorideAction.net
I suspect that dubious list of fluoridation supporters will be dropping out one by one as they review the recent science showing how fluoride is harmful to the human body even at the low levels added to water supplies.
The National Kidney Foundation had to forced the American Dental Association to remove its name
http://www.FluorideAction.Net
Fluoridation 101
http://www.orgsites.com/ny/nyscof - Arcesius, on 06/24/2008, -1/+11dugg for the appropriate nick
- theelectricafro, on 06/24/2008, -2/+12Medicating without informed consent is a crime. The choice should be left to the individual if they want to drink fluoridated water or use fluoridated toothpaste. Dentists are not heavy metal toxicology experts so their reccomendation of fluoride is meaningless. This guy however is http://www.rense.com/general9/topflouride.htm
Also a good video on fluoride:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q3y8uwtxrHo - diggdong, on 06/24/2008, -6/+16Here is a documentary on the history of the fluoride and the aluminum industry. I posted this up at the top but realized it was in a submission I did and it wasn't getting dug, therefore, it wouldn't be getting the attention I felt necessary for this topic. My apologies for being an ass in advance. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q3y8uwtxrHo&feature ... Fluoride Deception Part 1 I also like to point out the water in Russian gulags had fluoride put in the water to pacify the prisoners.
- hiPpymIck, on 06/24/2008, -1/+11..like having sex with a real woman
no wait..
wrong part of the periodic table
- thats cos of the bromide (in the tea).. -
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