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- RichPowers, on 10/12/2007, -5/+36Sorry Quagmire, the game is up.
- truspector, on 10/12/2007, -17/+44There goes my Saturday.
- Paktu, on 10/12/2007, -12/+29As long as they can't detect chloroform, I should be fine.
- eattoenails, on 10/12/2007, -5/+17I don't get why people make jokes out of this. Is rape really that funny? How funny is it when your sister or girlfriend got raped by someone else?
- FyreGoddess, on 10/12/2007, -1/+10Like a bar? A party, maybe? How about you're out with your girlfriends and you turn your attention away from your drink for a few minutes?
Things like this can happen *anywhere*, no matter how safe you think you're being. They are now advising women to throw away their drinks if their attention wanders for even a few minutes. This solution should be a hell of a lot cheaper.
I just hope that women will actually buy and use it. - Frecklefoot, on 10/12/2007, -4/+13@coderpunk:
"If you need such a kit maybe you're in a situation that you ought not to be in?"
Uh, excuse me? How is a first date a situation a girl shouldn't be in? How can she possibly know enough about a person without having spent 10 minutes with them to know if they are scum?
If this product comes to fruition, I plan to issue it to my daughter as standard dating equipment when she's old enough to date. - eric0213, on 10/12/2007, -2/+11I agree. All these posts are supposedly funny, but you're talking about someone's daughter, sister, or wife being drugged and then raped.
They shouldn't be in the situation, coderpunk? That's the same argument that says girls shouldn't wear revealing clothing or its their own fault that they get assaulted. Because of this girls need to be cautious any where they go. It isn't just drinks that are bought by others given to them, girls often have these drugs dropped in to their own drinks. When you think about it, how hard would it be to drop a pill into someone's drink as you walk by?
What if you were slipped one of these drugs and people harvested your kidney? - jhaven, on 10/12/2007, -3/+11Ah, so basically it detects alcohol?
- DAlighieri, on 10/12/2007, -2/+10@coderpunk
It's all well and good to take that position, but be realistic. It's a giant party, it might be difficult to keep track of your drink 100% of the time, especially if everyone has the same identical red plastic disposable cups.
Caution should always be your watchword, but it's nice to know that there could be a "plan b" for when things don't go as well as you'd hoped. - freebirdpat, on 10/12/2007, -9/+16*hands you a rag*
Does this smell like chloroform to you? - hobophobe, on 10/12/2007, -1/+8Of course, this will also facilitate the sale of such drugs, as it will indicate the substance is legitimate. That may not matter since women can test, but better than testing would be an innocuous substance that would render any such illicit chemicals in a drink inert. It wouldn't have to be added to poured drinks, but instead could be added at the manufacturing point.
- Kruncher, on 10/12/2007, -0/+4Best pick-up line ever! ^
- NoSuchAgency, on 10/12/2007, -0/+4That'd be a hell of a lot harder to implement - a neutralizing substance that will deactivate rohypnol in the highly varied chemical environments of different drinks? A martini is probably ~pH 7, anything with fruit juice is likely closer to 4-5. Not a lot of chemistry would be happy in both solutions, especially anything enzyme-based.
- wjglenn, on 10/12/2007, -1/+4"Why do you want your daughter to be in a situation where she even suspects someone of drugging her? Better to tell her to come home if she gets herself into that kind of trouble."
You just don't get it. It's not like some cheesy afternoon TV movie where the scary music is playing. A first date. A third or fifth date. A small party at a friend's house. A bar. Even with someone you thought you could trust. It can happen anywhere.
That whole "your fault for being in the situation" attitude is really sickening.
"if you're smart enough to suspect it, and to use one of these kits to protect yourself, why not just stay out of the situation all togehter [sic]?"
Because you can't stay out of life, and you can't possibly know accurately every situation that's dangerous and every situation that's not. But you can sure as hell test a drink whenever you feel the least bit uncomfortable or when it's been out of your sight. - inactive, on 10/12/2007, -1/+3A nice punch to the face otta do it!
- eric0213, on 10/12/2007, -1/+3That would require leaving my mother's basement.
- Jugalator, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2Agreed; alcohol is already the most common intoxication at date rapes according to statistics, and it will only widen the gap unless this device detects that. :-p
- INHUMANITY, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2Anybody else loving the ad on the same page for a "Chem C200 Chemistry Set" for only $149!
- rach, on 10/12/2007, -2/+4These things don't just happen on dates, they happen at parties. A girl could just be carrying around her own drink, like someone said in a big red plastic cup, and some horny frat boy could slip it in as she walks by.
She could be holding it with her whole hand covering the top, and still get drugged if she took her eyes off it for one second, because you can't cover the whole cup with one hand. And chances are, if she's at a party enjoying herself and talking to people, her eyes wouldn't be glued to the thing even if she was a perfectly responsible young lady. - smurfmaster, on 10/12/2007, -1/+3Well, what if you don't suspect? Rapists don't have "rapist" written all over their forehead. They can appear quiet and normal.
That you're trying to blame the victims is pretty disgusting. - mattyxo, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2"Also, never ever ever EVER leave your drink anywhere around strangers or even take your hand off of your drink for that matter. Treat it like a purse/wallet. Would you leave your purse/wallet around strangers or just sitting next to you unattended? I wouldn't, but then again I don't trust strangers."
You don't have to take your hands off your drink for someone to slip something in. A drunken (or sober) laugh at something + a bump from some stranger = roofie!
Think of it like pickpoketing: distract the person/take their attention away from the drink and slip in the drug. Unless you're staring at your drink without blinking and not having conversations, it's easy for anybody to drug any drink.
So to your purse/wallet example, ***** that. Anybody can steal your purse/wallet in a second and you're left the oblivious victim - SweeterThnEqual, on 10/12/2007, -1/+2What I'm saying is that if you don't suspect it, then you wouldn't pull out your little date-rape-drug litmus test and check for it. If you're even at the point where you think someone could possibly be drugging you, then you should leave. Don't bother testing your drink, just get away.
- macattacks10, on 10/12/2007, -1/+2After you said that, I promptly noticed the alliteration in the title, just need to find an alternative word for Rape that starts with a D.
- xbmodder, on 10/12/2007, -0/+11. How old is your daughter?
If your answer is greater than 12, and she goes to public school with more than 1000 people there, most likely she is already getting into the dating community
2. don't let her date until she is 14 -- What you do is set her up with guys who are jerks -- but you know are safe. See, as you break her heart multiple times she slowly learns to hate guys.. It works... heh - elmro, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1What are the chances that each of these detectors is less than $3? If they aren't, it is more economical to just replace the suspect drink with another one. I also think these drinks will give girls a false sense of security. What if the test comes up negative and the girl still passes out? Perhaps the guy roofied the drink after she tested, perhaps there is a new date-rape drug, or perhaps the test didn't work. These kinds of things could be a liability to the company. I wouldn't want my daughter/wife/mother accepting a drink from a suspect person, and having a false sense of security because the first drink she tested was 'safe'. The drunker you get, the less likely you are to test your drinks - these guys will just start putting drugs in the 2nd/3rd drink after 'befriending' their targets.
- cuoops, on 10/12/2007, -0/+15 posts on this 5-6 days ago, just search "roofies"
- ASoggyWaffle, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1ya what are you going to do get out your dropper and special paper to test any drink some1 gives you, this is not a viable solution
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1the date rape drug called
beer
its good that this kit is being developed
GHB and Alcohol can be a very nasty combo - inactive, on 10/12/2007, -3/+4low-tech solution: women, if a guy offers to buy you a drink, go with him to the bar and watch the bartender pour it.
if you're at a party, go with him to wherever the drinks are instead of having him bring it to you.
it's not rocket science
Also, never ever ever EVER leave your drink anywhere around strangers or even take your hand off of your drink for that matter. Treat it like a purse/wallet. Would you leave your purse/wallet around strangers or just sitting next to you unattended? I wouldn't, but then again I don't trust strangers. - vhold, on 10/12/2007, -1/+2Useful, but does it give a false sense of security? Or more disturbingly, how many people will think of using this to frame people?
- wvdavis, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1Agreed, I had a relative who was slipped on of these things. She came to hours later in a part of town and she had no idea of what happened to her. The experience messed her up for months.
Guys, there is nothing funny about slipping a chick a Mickey, and taking advantage of her. Don't walk around all proud of yourself thinking "you got some" last night. You didn't! You "get some" when she is involved, not when she is whacked out of her gourd. I don't know about the rest of the male population, but when I am with a chick, I want her to remember me, and the experience as a positive and memorable one, not one of WTF.
If you see some punk slipping something like this into a chicks drink, take him out back and beat the “F” out of him… let him wake up senseless! - haastyle, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1This is good for the ladies, guys are gonna be like wtf you doing, whoops out her lab kit.
- mumbat, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1OMG! Can they detect ALCOHOL???
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -2/+2"a tiny testing kit that women can carry in their purses"
I resent the double standards. What about teenage boys getting brutally raped by their sexy female teachers?
I mean, if it was all fun and games all along, they wouldn't need their mothers to sue said teachers, now would they? - treleung, on 10/12/2007, -3/+3Have you ever been to a party/bar? Are you kidding me?
- lms21, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0Wearing the Rapex condom seems like a better alternative to busting out your chem set at the bar. ( this was a previous Digg post)
http://www.rapestop.net/faq/index.asp - inactive, on 10/12/2007, -2/+2many, and I've never seen women just let random strangers buy them a drink without them being there to watch the bar tender make it.
paying attention to your surroundings is something you should do at all times because if you don't pay attention..you're eventually going to get screwed - inactive, on 10/12/2007, -3/+3oh, and don't drink on the first (2) dates. Get to know the person before you decide to get even a little bit "tipsy".
- Sharkee, on 10/12/2007, -1/+1"Rape me once, shame on you. Rape me twice, shame on me"
Reno-911 Police-Tek commercial - madeingermany, on 10/12/2007, -3/+3The thing I don't get about date-rape-drug-test-kits:
Why would anyone go on a date with someone they might even remotely suspect of putting anything in their drink? - Tharena, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0Even better than adding to the drink would be something granting at least temporary immunity from the drugs, miracle pill blah blah whatever.
Until then it's still drink from sealed containers or keep your eyes on your drink from the time it's poured it until the time it's finished. Not easy, as stated. Too bad it's necessary now. - SweeterThnEqual, on 10/12/2007, -1/+1"A first date. A third or fifth date. A small party at a friend's house. A bar. Even with someone you thought you could trust."
That's not in dispute. But if you're smart enough to have your guard up, and you think "I could be in danger, I'll test my drink in case the guy I'm with is trying to rape me!" Why not just think "I'm uncomfortable with this guy/party so I'm leaving."
I think it's irresponsible to market a product that can only help you if your guard is up to begin with. It gives you false security. What about the poor girls who don't even think they could be in danger? A half assed solution is not enough. That's like saying sleep with any disgusting, STD ridden creep, as long as you use a condom! It's not foolproof and it's not the most logical solution. - SweeterThnEqual, on 10/12/2007, -3/+2Why do you want your daughter to be in a situation where she even suspects someone of drugging her? Better to tell her to come home if she gets herself into that kind of trouble.
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -7/+6the whole roofie thing is just like putting in cheat codes to your favoraite game....kinda takes the fun out of it..
- steger, on 10/12/2007, -7/+6say that 3 times in a row.
- SweeterThnEqual, on 10/12/2007, -3/+2I agree... if you're smart enough to suspect it, and to use one of these kits to protect yourself, why not just stay out of the situation all togehter?
- p1p3, on 10/12/2007, -1/+0It’s so unfair. When I go to parties nobody ever puts drugs in my drinks, I have to pay for mine.
- Tharena, on 10/12/2007, -1/+0My general comment to this is that it's a GREAT idea. You go out on first date with guy you don't know well, and hey, he could be a rapist.. he could be a perfectly decent guy. You don't know.. that's why it's a FIRST date, right? This is great for those house parties/frat parties where quality control is... neglegable.
This is a person being smart and keeping themselves safe. Anyone offended by the use of the test should put an elastic band around their head and snap out of it already. A person being safe.. at this point, it's like saying have wild unprotected sex with 10 guys without a condom (or 10 of them, hopefully =P ).
We shouldn't even have to be worrying about these drugs, nevermind TESTING for them. Sad but true. - SweeterThnEqual, on 10/12/2007, -3/+1I don't see myself paying for this. If I suspected someone of drugging my drink, I would leave. Who would voluntarily stay somewhere when they suspect that there are rapists targeting them?
I take date rape seriously, but it seems like the scientists developing this are more focused on getting the chemicals to work than the logic of it. Date rape drugs only work because the victims are unsuspecting. - gapotter, on 10/12/2007, -10/+5Maybe if I eat enough of these test strips - it'll be like having a roofie-colada :)
Then I'll go home and date-rape myself! -
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