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- evilTak, on 10/12/2007, -5/+35Bacon! My favorite vegetable!
- millionbooks, on 10/12/2007, -3/+32It's easy to see why people aren't eating fruits and vegetables. Americans seem to have very little time to sit down and enjoy a meal or to take too much time to think about what they are eating. For many people it's all about getting food cheap and fast. That's not to say that people don't have the option of eating healthy. It just seems to be of very low priority to many people.
- raynar, on 10/12/2007, -6/+34"I know this is a crazy concept but I eat healthy without eating a whole lot of vegetables and fruit. I could live off of baked chicken and a good steak for a long time. I drink OJ to avoid scurvee."
Then you're not eating healthy, *****. - antifreze, on 10/12/2007, -9/+32that's why we need a healthy fast food place... take the unhealthy stigma away from fast service. If we can do everything else so fast in this world why can't I get a delicious sandwich on whole grain bread with lean free range turkey, romaine lettuce, tomato, cucumbers with a bag of carrots and an apple? I don't want to eat something resembling beef that probably has more steroids in it than protein.
- superheroboy, on 10/12/2007, -1/+22In the words of Jim Gaffigan: "Should I eat this salad for 12 dollars or these 8 hamburgers for a nickel? Sorry salad!"
- evilTak, on 10/12/2007, -6/+24Unfortunately, eating healthy foods (in the US) is much more expensive and time-consuming than eating crap.
Antifreze: http://www.evos.com - mortigon, on 10/12/2007, -5/+18Maybe if they put some cheese and sugar on it
- scispaz, on 10/12/2007, -4/+16@otto
What hippy commune are you living in? Maybe I am biased being from the young and single crowd, but it is rare for me to get both 3 servings of veges and 2 servings of fruit in the same day. Anyone who eats out or primarily lives on partially premade foods (ie most of the US) is right there with me. - aaronkarp, on 10/12/2007, -2/+13Only if you eat an equivalent amount. So if an apple weighs 5 oz, and a bag of skittles is 2 oz, and you're supposed to eat 5 fruits a day....that's like eating twelve and a half bags of skittles........every day........
- totorototoro, on 10/12/2007, -4/+15do Skittles count?
- 0crabby0, on 10/12/2007, -2/+13Humph!
Digg needs a gardening section, I see that right now...lol
Do you realize you can grow radishes from seed to radish in 22 days?
We grow them at work(Our offices are on 10 acres). Our employer even has gardening classes.
Every morning when it's not raining, I spend the first thirty minutes outside picking out my lunch.
This morning, I picked sugar snap and snow peas, One head of bibb lettuce, 6 radishes(french-breakfast type), and 5 carrots for lunch.
We're organic, so I rinsed all of the veggies and stored them in the fridge. Took less than 12 minutes to make a great salad .
Didn't cost me anything... - betacmag4u, on 10/12/2007, -0/+11Americans just eat far too many calories. Our portion sizes are huge. Take your meal and divide it in half. Heed my advice, I am a fat-ass!! I know how I got fat. :)
- nirvanix, on 10/12/2007, -0/+10I think that onions, potatoes, celery, carrots are still inexpensive. Buy those and a slow cooker and then throw them in with some meat and make a big pot of stew that will last for several days.
- ezweave, on 10/12/2007, -1/+11@kibibytebrain
Where are these sugar loaded fruits you speak of?
Apple (medium sized, 4-5 oz) 72 calories
Strawberries (1 cup, whole) 46 calories
Banana (1, 7" long) 102 calories
Orange (1 large, 184 grams) 86 calories
vs
Lay's Potato Chips (1 oz) 150 calories
Snickers (1) 273 calories
T-bone steak (1 piece) 473 calories
And fruits have sugar in them? Bastards! (http://www.calorie-count.com/) - democracysucks, on 10/12/2007, -3/+13Part of the reason is because our society doesn't make it easy to EAT fruits and veggies! They're expensive, they take time to prepare (which sucks in our busy society), they're hard to find in decent variety and condition, etc.... I've been trying to eat MAINLY fruits and veggies for a while now, and I can tell you it's raised my grocery budget quite a bit and has made it so I tend to eat the same exact things every week. I also find myself just plain not eating sometimes because a raw apple gets old, but I don't have time to cook a real meal.
I miss my microwavable White Castle. :( - libertao, on 10/12/2007, -0/+9From a nutritional/health standpoint (which is the subject at hand) they often aren't categorized with vegetables since most healthy diets promote eating more fruits and vegetables but don't mean eating a bunch of potatoes which have a high glycemic index, not as many vitamins, etc.
- hockey, on 10/12/2007, -20/+29I don't eat fruits and veggies.
I'm a meatetarian. I protest the killing of innocent plants for food.
Plants give us oxygen. Cow farts deplete the ozone layer.
Kill and eat the cow and leave that poor innocent plant alone. - dosterm, on 10/12/2007, -1/+9@rcran
Look closer at the portion sizes. It sounds like a lot of stuff, but when a serving of meat is the size of a deck of cards, it doesn't come out to much. - LogicBomB, on 10/12/2007, -1/+9More healthy fast food places would be a godsend. We absolutely need more pita places, sub places, sandwhich place, STIR FRY places, chicken and beef places, shawarma, etc..
It's getting more common but there is still a lot of garbage. The need for more flavor with less sauce is also needed. A salad or sub is great but pour a liter of ranch or a galon of mayo onto them and you negate it all. - rcran, on 10/12/2007, -4/+12I don't know about you, but it always seemed to me like if you ate everything it says to eat on the food pyramid, you would explode.
- millionbooks, on 10/12/2007, -0/+7Fruits and vegetables can be as easy as anything else. You can go to a wholesale club like Sam's or Costco and buy large bags of vegetables and fruits. I find that packing an apple, orange, or banana is pretty easy. And things like carrots or celery are no more difficult than bagging up some chips or pretzels to take with you. One of the primary problems is that too many people don't take food with them. This causes 2 problems. The first is that when you don't plan your meals you end up eating at restaurants which cost much more than if you had brought a sandwich and a few other items. The second problem is that when you eat out, you tend to eat less healthy food. Most restaurants are not primarily interested in your health. They are interested in your money and making you feel full and satisfied regardless of the nutritional value of the meal. So meals get bigger and bigger and people eat more and more and come to expect more and more food. It really seems to be a vicious cycle.
- VeganG, on 10/12/2007, -0/+7They're not lazy, they're taking advantage of an economy that allows them to have such a lifestyle and still be taken care of. America is the land of people who can't afford to get sick because they can't afford to lose a day's pay, much less afford to pay a doctor's bill. Why do you act like that's a better way of life?
- bodger, on 10/12/2007, -1/+8It seems the "Say no to cannibalism" campaign is working.
- ezweave, on 10/12/2007, -1/+8@kibibytebrain
Where are these sugar loaded fruits you speak of?
Apple (medium sized, 4-5 oz) 72 calories
Strawberries (1 cup, whole) 46 calories
Banana (1, 7" long) 102 calories
Orange (1 large, 184 grams) 86 calories
vs
Lay's Potato Chips (1 oz) 150 calories
Snickers (1) 273 calories
T-bone steak (1 piece) 473 calories
And fruits have sugar in them? Bastards! (http://www.calorie-count.com/) - kevyn, on 10/12/2007, -6/+12no *****...
- mysticmcj, on 10/12/2007, -4/+9What's surprising to me is that you think a potato is not a vegetable.
Since when were vegetables not allowed to have protein or starch (carbs?) - nepawoods, on 10/12/2007, -0/+5The dangers of meat and saturated fats are highly overrated. The real culprits in the American diet are trans fats (partially hydrogenated vegetable oils) and processed carbs like white flour, sugar, corn syrups, etc. Cut those out, and a diet of prime beef, butter, cheese and eggs will never be a problem. Of course, you need vegetables for fiber, preferably not starchy vegetables.
- VeganG, on 10/12/2007, -0/+4"that's why we need a healthy fast food place..."
Here in L.A. we have Orean's Health Express in Pasadena, which is a vegan drive-through that's across the street from no less than: Roscoe's Chicken & Waffles, KFC, Carl's Jr., and McDonald's. In Venice Beach there's Good Karma, another vegan fast food walk-up window. Both places serve things like chili cheeseburgers, hot dogs, chicken sandwiches, soft serve... except good for you. Prices aren't bad, either. - libertao, on 10/12/2007, -1/+5You had me up until the Anti-American crap. Britain and others are having obesity problems as well. Not to mention, a country doesn't become an economic and military superpower by them all being lazy.
- jchennav, on 10/12/2007, -1/+5I'm not surprised given the recent E. coli outbreaks in pre-packaged vegetables. Vegetables were also implicated in the E. coli outbreak at Taco Bell.
- unabonger, on 10/12/2007, -0/+4Chipotle is healthy fast food. Subway can be healthy fast food. Im sure there's more that I dont know about... It's all about educating americans and giving them more choices...
- nepawoods, on 10/12/2007, -0/+4Well, it's hard to compete with British cuisine.
- libertao, on 10/12/2007, -0/+4Wait fruits and vegetables are good for me? If only the article had told me!!
- mysticmcj, on 10/12/2007, -2/+6What, corn is not a vegetable either? Last I checked, it sure was.
Please elaborate on how you are categorizing these as "not vegetables." - RealityCheque, on 10/12/2007, -3/+7Wal-Mart sells bags of pre-cooked, microwaveable chicken breasts for $7.50 per bag. There are like 14 or so breasts in each bag (I eat about 8 per day, but I also fight and bodybuild). You can buy bags of broccoli for like $1.10 a bag that will easily provide you three servings or more and takes less than 5 minutes to steam (you can start steaming it while you are waiting three minutes for the chicken to microwave.
Uncle Ben's has a 90 second brown rice pouch that you can microwave...in 90 seconds.
A jar of peanut butter is between 3.50 and 5 dollars. This provides healthy fats and another source of protein.
Sweet potatoes are a great source of carbohydrates with a very low glycemic index (won't spike your insulin levels).
Oatmeal is an excellent choice as well; you can sweeten it with cinnamon and splenda, as well as DaVinci sugar free syrup (7.99 for a container that will last through one month of regular usage).
Protein shakes are something most of you wouldn't consider, but you can literally make them taste like real milkshakes. Pour 16 oz. of skim milk into a blender, put two scoops of whatever flavor protein in the blender (Chocolate or Vanilla preferably, 12 bucks at wal-mart for quality product). If it is chocolate, you can add two tablespoons of peanut butter to provide some flavor as well as provide you with healthy fats. Add 5 packets of splenda for sweetening. Add DaVinci sugar free syrup for flavoring. And about 12-14 ice cubes to make a smoothie. I add Kahlua flavored DaVinci (and peanut butter) to my chocolate protein shakes, and I always surprise people when I tell them that it is a protein shake. This takes about five minutes to do as well.
These are just a few of limitless healthy eating options that are actually very manageable and inexpensive. But why bother telling you this, when you can just stop at Burger King and wait the same amount of time to have your food served to you while you wait in a drive-thru line as it would to take you to microwave 1-2 chicken breasts and 1/4 cup dry measure of oatmeal.
It isn't any "Faster" for you to get fast food; it's just that you are too lazy to cook. - racklp, on 10/12/2007, -0/+4"Chipotle is healthy fast food"
Ummm, sorry, can't say I agree. Have you looked at the fat, sodium and calorie content of their food? Even though they try to use quality meats and vegetables whenever possible their food is extremely caloric and loaded with fat and sodium. Far more than your average sedentary American should consume. Even active adults would be hard pressed to burn the calories served up in a single burrito--even if they skip the chips.
If you don't have enough time cook you've still got options when it comes to eating vegetables. Try bagged veggies. They're quick, healthy and ready to eat. If you're sitting around the house watching TV and feel the need to munch chances are it's not because of your huge calorie deficit, so instead of reaching for the chips try reaching for a bag of carrots--it'll keep your jaw chomping and is way healthier for you than potato chips. - Numfar28, on 10/12/2007, -4/+7@hockey
But dude, what about the plants the cows kill to eat? Hmm?
I know you're kidding, but being vegetarian is ironically still better for plants than being a "meatetarian". - libertao, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3I think its more to do with non-fruits and vegetables becoming cheaper at a faster rate than it is to do with F&Vs becoming expensive. Supermarkets do everything they can to bring in fruits and vegetables from all over the world at (IMO, considering the length and speed at which they're transported) pretty low prices. It's just about prioritization.
- ICSU, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3Vegetable is only a culinary term so potatoes are usually not considered vegetables.
- betacmag4u, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3nice example of future based schadenfreude
- EvilFerret, on 10/12/2007, -2/+5Pffft.....It really doesn't matter how many fruits/veggies people eat.... Sure, eating right *is* a pretty crucial part of being healthy.... However, if people don't take the time to exercise once in awhile it's not going to see hardly any changes. A lot of people go on diets were they change nothing but the food they eat, after a month or so they get upset because they only lost 2lbs during that time and usually call it quits.
What pisses me off is when people try to tell me that they don't have time.... There's not a person in the world that couldn't take 15 minutes out of their day every morning to job/run before they take their showers. If a person actually was that busy, being obese certainly wouldn't be an issue for them. - superbonbon, on 10/12/2007, -1/+3For example... $1 will get you what, 1 burger at mcdonalds? - enough for 1 person to have 1 meal (and never mind the fact that most people get fries and a drink with it)... But at the grocery store it will get you a pound of grapes; enough for the whole family or for 1 person for like 2 days. And if you eat healthier, you will have to eat less to feel full.
while I agree with what you're trying to say, it's slightly inaccurate. Last time I bought grapes they were about $6 per pound. - VeganG, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2I have a British friend who married into a family here in America that lives off nothing but bbq'ed meats from a crock pot. He's pretty miserable about it.
- crazyjeff0, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2"In the earlier survey, 27% of participants met the fruit consumption goal vs. 28% in the later survey.
But the percentage meeting the vegetable consumption goal fell from 35% in the earlier survey to 32% in the one started about a decade later."
So a 1% increase for fruit consumption isn't remarkable, but a 3% drop in veggies is? And potatoes aren't veggies. Especially not McDonald's fries. Sorry fatty. - Buelldozer, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2Agreed. Last week the wife and I bought 1.5lbs of green seedless grapes at Albertsons (A chain grocery store). That 1.5lbs cost me just shy of TEN dollars.
I'm being dugg down in another "thread" for saying that fruits and veggies are expensive, what many fail to realize is that we don't all live in California where this stuff is grown, or within 1000 miles of a port where it can be shipped in from.
The comment about $1 for 2-3 apples had me laughing me as well, someone else who obviously lives where this stuff is grown and doesn't have enough experience with the rest of the world to understand that situations are different depending on where you live. - jamin, on 10/12/2007, -1/+3@evilTak
More time-consuming, perhaps, not necessarily more expensive. This is a common misconception. Is rice expensive? Are beans expensive? Are fresh vegetables (especially from your local farmer's market) expensive? Is a bag of frozen fish fillets (not the fried ones) expensive?
No, the reality is that Americans are too lazy to cook. And eating out (even fast food) or buying prepared meals is far more expensive than cooking fresh healthy food. The funny thing is that it's not that hard or time-consuming to make a lot of healthy meals. I come home from work, throw in some rice in my rice cooker, throw some fresh green beans on the steamer rack of the cooker, and when the rice is about done I stick a tilapia fillet in the toaster oven for about 6 or 7 minutes. It's ***** trivial. It's not rocket science. And God does it taste better than McDonald's. A lot of people use the excuse that they are too busy or are single and don't want to cook for just one person. Ever heard of a freezer? Did you know you can freeze rice? did you know you can make a pot of soup for a few dollars and pour into these containers that allow you to freeze them for many multiple meals at a later date? Your home made meals can literally cost less than a dollar and be remarkably healthy. Yes, that's less than the price of one of those crappy fried chicken sandwiches on the dollar menu at your local McFatties.
I challenge those of you who buy a lot of meals prepared (either frozen or at a restaurant of some sort) to try this experiment. Limit yourself to 1 dinner and 1 lunch at a restaurant per week and cook the rest of your meals. If you don't save a bundle of money at the end of the month than you aren't buying your produce or groceries at the right places. - s0nicfreak, on 10/12/2007, -1/+3I don't see why people are digging you down, antifolkhero, because you're right. The belief that eating healthier cost more is a common misconception.
For example... $1 will get you what, 1 burger at mcdonalds? - enough for 1 person to have 1 meal (and never mind the fact that most people get fries and a drink with it)... But at the grocery store it will get you a pound of grapes; enough for the whole family or for 1 person for like 2 days. And if you eat healthier, you will have to eat less to feel full. - wakkow, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2Chipotle is healthy? Only if you dump the tortilla, sour cream and cheese. Like most fast food places, there are healthy options.
- amyval81, on 10/12/2007, -5/+7What's surprising to me is that beans and potatoes are included in the definition of "veggies," and that people aren't able to get their 5 - 9 servings in even with those included. The last time I checked beans were protein and potatoes were a starch.
- RomieGalaxy, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2I make a large salad once a week and then use it for a few days. That way I don't have to try to make a salad several times during the week (which never happens) to get vegetables.
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