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- darksheer, on 10/12/2007, -0/+71Definitely agree with this article and we have for a long time. The 3 pieces of your computer you should be most concerned with are:
Monitor
Keyboard
Mouse
And yet, people always seem to think of them as afterthoughts. They are the parts of your computer which you interact with--they need to work WITH YOU. A Core 2 Duo in one machine is the same as a Core 2 Duo in another and 1gb of ram is 1gb of ram. But those 3 pieces are YOUR interface. If they don't work for you, its not your computer that will be the bottleneck: its you. - inactive, on 10/12/2007, -10/+64I sit pretty close to my PC at home, my 19 inch monitor is plenty for me. At work, I have a 21 inch screen. After a day of staring at it, my eyes and head hurt because it's just too big for me. This is not a freaking TV that you sit far away from and want your visual sense to be engulfed by. This is something that'll be one or two feet away from your nose.
Probably one of the biggest issues that arises from having a big screen in front of your face all day is the fact that almost everything you do on your computer nowadays looks very, very white. Most web pages have white backgrounds, most applications (Word, etc) have white backgrounds. As the screen gets larger, you realize more and more that it does NOT look like the "paper" it tries to emulate. Instead, it looks like a giant light bulb shining into your face for hours at a time.
However, I will say that I'd very much enjoy a wide-screen monitor. Not a huge one, but wide-screen is definitely the way to go. - lcarsdeveloper, on 10/12/2007, -2/+301) It's called "Reply"
2) Why does everything have to always get turned into a MS vs Apple debate?
"Battlestar Galactica Released on DVD"
Comments:
WinGuy - Wow that's fantastic, I can't wait to watch this!
MacFanBoy - Yeah it will look great on my big Mac Screen!
WinGuy - Mac sucks!!!!
MacFanBoy - Go to hell you loser, everyone knows that Macs look nicer
WinGuy - Mac sucks! Get a PC and download Vista RC1!
MacFanBoy - Buy a Mac!
Really starting to get sick of this debate. If you like Macs then use them. If you like Windows then use it. If you prefer Linux, use that. If you're happy with your C64, then good for you. Stop telling me about it, I really don't want to hear it anymore. I'm tempted to start making Apple vs MS blogposts and submit them here just to get everyone pissed off at each other (and lets face it, it wouldn't be too hard because you're all so damn fanatical about what OS you use!)
PS anyone with an overly Apple or MS username (such as iAlex or siMac) needs to get a life. - rompom7, on 10/12/2007, -7/+35i found it funny that siMac thought that Dweller99 was having a go at apple.
- Lagged2Death, on 10/12/2007, -5/+33If everyone goes out and buys a fancy widescreen LCD that can't work with Windows' HD DRM, then Windows' HD DRM will be stillborn and will fail.
Sounds like a plan to me. - buryme, on 10/12/2007, -3/+28ifonly:
You didn't fare so well in math class, did you?
...or spelling for that matter... - Wavey, on 10/12/2007, -1/+25I just added a 23" monitor to my IBM XT and DAMN what a big DOS prompt I have now!
Thanks, Slate! - cquinnd, on 10/12/2007, -0/+21You left out a comfy chair too, I'm still looking for the right chair for my home office.
- Alexx3k, on 10/12/2007, -3/+24The Dell 24" runs at 1920x1200 - If your at 1680 x 1050 then your using a dell 20" widescreen.
I couldn't agree with this article more, Since I upgraded from my 19" to a dell 24" - I've never understood people buying high powered computers and tiny screens - to me the screen is the most important aspect, especially for a web developer or someone who uses their computer for work. Plus dell 24" are only around £500 on ebay these days - hardly breaking the bank. 30" is still a little on the expensive side for your average home user. - rpike, on 10/12/2007, -1/+19An intelligent statement. I don't think I have ever thought of it like that.
- Mejogid, on 10/12/2007, -4/+21"If you're feeling stymied by your computer, buy the monitor now and wait until Windows Vista comes out to upgrade the rest of your PC."
The author tells us to buy the screen now and wait till Vista for a new processor, despite the fact that you won't be able to watch HD video on a screen that is not part of MS's trusted platform module (of which there are only a few screens out yet). Furthermore, large flat panel prices are falling much better than processor prices, so I'd say this is some pretty awful advice he's giving out. - JohnboiWaltune, on 10/12/2007, -14/+31Have you EVER gotten laid?
- lcarsdeveloper, on 10/12/2007, -4/+21Yeah read it the first time man:
http://digg.com/hardware/Why_gigantic_screens_are_the_best_computer_upgrades_ever
I think Digg needs to do some work on it's dupe checking, it's a bit worrying when ?nav=tap3 can turn a duplicate into a brand new page.
How about if when you submit the story, the page connects to the remote URL, grabs the TITLE of the page and uses it as some kind of unique identifier, like a triple check, what are the odds of two completely different articles having the same TITLE, the same Digg headline and being hosted on exactly the same domain?
Also, when you submit a story, you're given 4 simple guidelines:
1) Quality Content: Is your story on topic? Make sure your story is appropriate for the topic you're submitting it to.
2) Link Directly to the Source: Save people time by linking directly to the original news story.
3) Search First: Avoid duplication by searching to ensure nobody has submitted the same story.
4) Be Descriptive: You're the story's editor, so explain what it is and why it's cool.
See for yourself:
http://digg.com/submit
I clicked #3, typed in "why gigantic screens are the best computer upgrades ever", and I was given two results. This submission and the previous one.
I'm allowed to call this a dupe if there's no way a 5 second search wouldn't have found the previous submission. Perhaps if the headlines were different, but you either didn't follow step #3 or you ignored the fact that Cidixat submitted the exact same thing (same headline, same page, same article and exact same description) a day before you.
Then again, I'm sure they were only kidding when they wrote those 4 steps, it's entirely your choice whether or not you can be bothered following them. I mean the programmers were probably bored and had nothing better to do, so they thought "hey let's write some guidelines for people submitting stories and see how many people actually bother following them, just for a laugh! Who cares if 30% of our stories end up being duplicates, it means we get higher numbers in the stats we can quote to our investors!"
/rant
Begin spell check...complete (0 errors found)
Final check before "Submit Comment"...valid point made
Estimated probability of comment being dugg-down....70%
Probability of lcarsdeveloper giving a ***** about it.....0%
Submitting comment....complete - strcmp, on 10/12/2007, -1/+16@ilyag
It's not about how big everything is; the productivity gains come from being able to tile windows across your monitor without their overlapping. For example, it is often useful to be able to see the content of a browser window while word processing. Large monitors allow you to do this while keeping both windows at comfortable sizes. This applies to having multiple monitors as well. - Dweller99, on 10/12/2007, -26/+41if 24" is good then 30" must be great.
http://www.dell.com/content/products/productdetails.aspx/monitor_3007wfp?c=us&cs=19&l=en&s=dhs - inactive, on 10/12/2007, -2/+16Its no good getting a 'giant' screen if your video card isn't able to run it properly.
I can't think of anything worse than having to play games in the non-native resolution and getting those nasty scaling artifacts that ALL LCDs get when the output res isn't native to the screen.
Face it, you'd need a pair of 7950GX2s to adequatley play some of the current and upcomming games at the native resolution of a 30" display!
Personally I use a projector whenever I want something to be BIG, but thats not to say I'd say no to a 30" cinema display if someone was to offer me one :) - inactive, on 10/12/2007, -4/+16"...calibrated at 5500°K. The combination of the warm white point and the extra size has eliminated the eye fatigue..."
Tried that on my monitor just now. Everything looks very deeply yellow. - inactive, on 10/12/2007, -0/+12no, you're in denial, seek help
- edzieba, on 10/12/2007, -2/+13"The Vista interface is messy and it is not secure."
The interface isn't secure? What, does OSX have padlocks on the icons? At least try and make coherant points (even if the whole 'OSX/Vista is arbitarily better' debate is silly anyway). - lcarsdeveloper, on 10/12/2007, -0/+11Unbelievable, you've been on Digg for almost 4 months and you haven't even worked out how to reply?
To reply to a comment, you hit reply. To reply to a comment's reply, you reply to the first comment and yours will appear undearneath. - interiot, on 10/12/2007, -9/+20And 37" is even better. Okay, it's still only 1920x1080, but I've got a Westinghouse display. Add an office chair, folding table, and mouse, and it's a normal computer. Roll that out of the way, and use the wireless keyboard or remote from the couch, and it's an HTPC. When other people come over, I use it as much for YouTube or Google Maps as I do for traditional media.
- Jeebugorn, on 10/12/2007, -0/+11"Dude are you listening on what I am saying? There are no reply buttoms on some people's posts."
lol....there are no reply buttons on some people's posts because those posts are comments on another post. like lcars said....if you wish to reply comment about another post you click reply in the original post, then either quote the comment or make a @iAlex, then reply. - luxcanon, on 10/12/2007, -4/+14Interface is EVERYTHING.
- edzieba, on 10/12/2007, -4/+14I've held onto a aging 21" CRT for this resaon. 1920x1200 for £60 is great, especially as a comparable 24" LCD is £600, an order of magnitude greater in cost. Sure, it's be nice to have a little more desk space (though I have a huge desk anyway, I keep the tower on the floor), and it;s be easier to carry, but I've moved the monitor a total of 2 times (once to set it up initially, once when moving house). I can handle a little heavy lifting occasionally for an extra £540 in my wallet. That's £540 I can use to build a 1080p projector, for an even bigger screen!
- Mejogid, on 10/12/2007, -2/+12That small portion is what some of us call 25%, which is (strangely) 25 times larger than 1%.
- ImPerial99, on 10/12/2007, -3/+12the closest if come to a 30" is the cinema display in the store, and man was it nice!!!
- rpike, on 10/12/2007, -5/+14I have to agree with Icarsdeveloper. The Mac/Win debate is about as overdone as George W. Bush getting dragged into everything.
- SoullessDragon, on 10/12/2007, -0/+8I have dual 19 inch monitors... whiile this takes up more desk space I prefer it to a larger monitor. Not only because it gives more width to work with allowing more open applications at once, it is nice to have the divider... ok, this on this screen and this on this screen.
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -1/+8As a Windows Fanboy, I concede that OSX is *at heart* much more secure than Windows. Microsoft does a lot of crazy ***** that makes XP more insecure such as Massive Legacy Support. I mean, Oregon Trail? I want to die of Dysentry in High Definition!
- msergeant, on 10/12/2007, -10/+17@Ramble ... To start with, Mac OS X is out now, not in BETA/RC stage.
- Ramble, on 10/12/2007, -23/+29"Mac OS X is so much better than Vista."
Yea? How? - sumadartson, on 10/12/2007, -0/+5Why is parent being dugg down? He's got a point!
The author of the article only dwells on high end solutions such as widescreen tfts. The budget solution of running on two high quality crts is much more cost effective.
I've been running that setup for years now. It comes recommended, especially since you tend to separate your tasks on the different monitors. EG, html code on one, rendered page on the other.
Combine with XGL+Compiz and establish your reputation as the alpha-geek :D - PaulC, on 10/12/2007, -0/+5@jbarnett
We have several hundred LCD monitors where I work, and we haven't had a single one fail in the year I have been working here. I'd say that LCD's have great lifetimes, as long as they aren't abused. - iPirate, on 10/12/2007, -1/+6I agree with they keyboard being an important part. I have been using the same keyboard for about 5 years now because it feels perfect. Every time I go on a new keyboard, there is just something missing. I can still type fast. but not as fast on my old keyboard.
- cquinnd, on 10/12/2007, -6/+11What makes you guys think that the HD DRM that would affect display on Vista won't also affect displays with OS X?
- Drumrboy, on 10/12/2007, -0/+5I'm running 50 75" 9348700x239033 displays and i needed to buy an auditorium to fit em all in!
i had to mount em on the ceiling so i've learned to live horizontally...
its not that bad... you get used to it...
all in all... My E-Penis is HUGE!!!!! - Jeebugorn, on 10/12/2007, -8/+13""Mac OS X is so much better than Vista."
Yea? How?"
Nicer and better interface, great programs, no virus or ***** and more.
The Vista interface is messy and it is not secure.
Ask Kevin Rose."
why dont you get out off kevin rose's ass.
and saying that one interface is better than another intreface is just an opinion not a fact. i find XP to be a much better interface than OS X. saying that not as secure is BS FUD. the only reason that windows *insert version here* is "less secure" than something else is that it has 90% (not the exact percentage but rough estimate) of the marketshare so it is a MUCH larger target. if someone was wanting to do the most damage as possible, they would find an exploit in windows. i would bet $1 million that if OS X had 90% of the marketshare, there would be exploits and security holes popping up everywhere.....just like it is with windows. - JerodSlay, on 10/12/2007, -2/+7Don't forget speakers. The eyes and ears get input from monitor and speakers, the hands input through keyboard and mouse. You might say mic for input too, but that's a non-issue.
Good display and speakers are a must. In the movie business, the first thing you learn is that a film is about 60% sound. If you have crappy sound, you wont get very far. - penguinopus, on 10/12/2007, -7/+11It's not just size, its resolution and speed. The Apple/Dell 30" is truly amazing at 2560x1600x60hz. Google Earth 4 @ 4Mpixels rocks, but I'm biased.
The only single monitor higher res was the IBM T-221 22" with a 3840x2400 (9Mpixel(!)) resolution. The problem it had was that even multiple DVI cables couldn't feed it faster than 41fps.
http://www.theinquirer.net/default.aspx?article=8578 - JerodSlay, on 10/12/2007, -0/+4I think he was using a literary term called "hyperbole".
- monkbone, on 10/12/2007, -0/+4One 30-inch (Apple) monitor has more than twice the number of pixels as a 20-inch (Apple) monitor: 2560*1600/(1680*1050) = 2.32. So, 2 20-inch monitors do not have more screen real estate than one 30-incher. But, it would be more economical (buy 3 20-inch screens for the price of one 30-inch).
For your average person multiple monitor setups are the way to go.
But for movies, photo editing, etc, get biggest single monitor you can afford. - fantasticjon, on 10/12/2007, -0/+4I agree with the author. I mean don't necessarily buy the biggest one, but buy the best one for you. 2 points.
1. A monitor is something you use everyday for hours on end. Don't cut corners on things your use everyday... Monitor, TV, Bed, car, speakers, etc.
2. A PC is obsolete as soon as you buy it and is a dinosaur in 2 years; a nice monitor will still be a nice monitor in 5 years. (until there is a new technology or interface that compels you to upgrade, or it breaks.) - master_of_fm, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3i have had an A02 revision 2407WFP for about a month now and for general use and gaming the gradient issues are not a problem. i bought mine through costco so if i have any problems or unhappy with it for any reason i can return it no questions asked. i defintely would not recommend my monitor to a friend of mine whose is a professional photographer, he still uses dual 20 inch crts for all of his main work.
i just look at it using the rule of diminishing returns, you spend more and more money to get that last few percent of perfomance. for me $750 and the performance offered by the 2407WFP was well worth it and I can live with a monitor that might have some minor gradient issuses - master_of_fm, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3you seem to be ignorant of the fact the your 37 inch display actually has less resolution than a 23/24inch display which is actually 1920x1200. not to mention that the dpi on that display is going to be 59.5, while my 2407WFP is going to have a dpi of 94.3. your diplsay is fine if you want to sit 6 feet back and watch tv, but try doing any actually work sitting 2 feet in front of the display you will be miserable and scratching your eyes out.
- JJorsett, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3My standard for a "too large" monitor is when I have to turn my head to see the opposite edges.
- angelof, on 10/12/2007, -2/+5@Icarsdeveloper
You make a great point. It's quite amusing how people seem to lose it when someone brings up a negative on the OS he uses. Use your computer and be happy since they all pretty much do the same thing. - Mambo, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3And a good arrangement as far as desk/chair height to be comfortable.
I hate my desk in my dorm room, it hurts my arms so bad I can barely type because it is too high. - isayx3, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3You're right I did have my math wrong :)
But for me I like having the dual monitors. I tend to like thing full screen and with ultramon easier to keep track of all my open apps. I'm a graphic designer so at work it's easier for me to concentrate with my outlook and misc apps (aim, media player, ect) on one monitor while my photoshop is full screen on the other. (opposed to having everying in windows arranged on screen). I do realize what works for me doesn't work for others. - drfranktm, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3The big advantage in going for a 30" in my opinion is that, when you have more money a little further down the road, you can get a *second* 30", and two 30" screens together is even sweeter than two 24" or two 20". Personally, I love my Dell 2407. Banding issues, you say? Yeah, I guess, if you care to look for them, but it's pretty good value for the price.
As for a bigger display being the best upgrade possible, I think it really depends on what you do. For games, the extra resolution is useless without the graphics card to drive it, but I'm not a gamer. When watching movies, the 24" of screen size is nice, but the resolution is overkill. High-res comes in handy for pretty much everything else I do, though, as I can keep much more stuff in sight simultaneously. That means much less time spent switching between various application windows, so you can end up being much more productive on a slower machine that has a bigger screen.
Personally, I decided not to buy any new screen with specs lesser than those of the Dell 2407. In a year or two, I'll probably add another screen of the same size to my setup. I felt like, considering that I'm on my computer almost 40 hours a week, anything smaller would not really be worth the desk space it takes in the long run. I'd have gone for a 3007 instead - and a second one two years from now -, but no low-end Mac can't drive that monster at the moment. - XBackstabberX, on 10/12/2007, -1/+4this is the truth, i have a Dell 2005FPW 20.1" widescreen monitor and i love it. I wish i had money to buy a bigger monitor. I'd rather have one really big monitor than 2 medium sized monitors anyday
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