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- stridox, on 07/24/2008, -16/+189But, will it run Crysis?
- Beastmasta, on 07/25/2008, -6/+65Silly! Computers don't run crysis.
- Crath, on 07/24/2008, -7/+64Every time I hear the word "teraflop", it just sounds like a bad thing.
- inactive, on 07/25/2008, -146/+200The real question is, will it keep crazy fanboys from shooting up your school?
- tcpip4lyfe, on 07/25/2008, -35/+84I just got a dirty look from my boss because I laughed so hard at that comment.
- devinmurphy, on 07/26/2008, -36/+79Wahh wah wah wah wahhhhh. You willingly subject yourself to this problem everytime you go to a public comment thread on the internet man. If the internet is too much for you. There are always books to read.
- tcpip4lyfe, on 07/25/2008, -7/+43@bommerang42
Then what was the point of buying a mac? - StacyWebb, on 07/25/2008, -5/+41This is actually the third one they built.
First - off the shelf G5's (ppc)
Second - off the shelf Xserves (ppc) - gitrplaya4u, on 07/25/2008, -5/+37@tcpip:
Cause its PRETTY - ultrafez, on 07/25/2008, -22/+51No, Macs can't run Crysis.
- mr.gates, on 07/25/2008, -12/+40I'm a huge mac fan, but am I the only one that thinks you can make a larger/better supercomputer for the same price by purchasing parts from IBM and the like?
- fwertz, on 07/25/2008, -2/+30Vtech nerd: "I'd like to purchase 24 more mac pros."
Omnipotent voice @ apple: "You must spawn more overlords." - diggdiggdug, on 07/24/2008, -8/+32I bet once they really get ripping you could bake an 'Apple Pie' on the processor.
- MMaster23, on 07/25/2008, -32/+55that was pretty dark dude....
- MMaster23, on 07/25/2008, -3/+25@gitrplaya4u:
Cause you have no money management .. I agree .. mac's are good fun and such .. but really . if you're running Windows on it, you might as well get a $2000+ Dell, Sony, Voodoo, HP, Alienware.. - doubleaught, on 07/25/2008, -1/+22FTA:
And, despite common wisdom to the contrary, the Mac Pros beat other systems on price. "The Mac Pros are highly competitive even against building a white box off the cheapest prices," he added. - foresmac, on 07/24/2008, -3/+24Dr Varadarajan explains that in the article. Did you read it?
- wonderchemist, on 07/25/2008, -13/+33More important, will it blend?
- kingmanic, on 07/25/2008, -1/+20I guess you have to turn in your geek card now.
- christophe971, on 07/26/2008, -26/+45Well played sir.
@fudged71: please shut up. - inactive, on 07/26/2008, -18/+36HAHA.
Fudged71 = FAIL
If Digg was a school I bet fudged71 would shoot all of us. XD - merreborn, on 07/25/2008, -0/+14Akamai is a CDN. Building your own CDN is a huge job, and a waste of resources unless you're a top-100 web company.
Apple is a software/hardware company. Building a CDN would be a waste of their time and money. As it would be for any other hardware company -- intel, IBM, AMD, dell, HP... They're *all* using services like akamai. - hotlatte, on 07/25/2008, -0/+14It's the fear of being flipped like a pancake.
- beforeapriori, on 07/25/2008, -10/+2480 gigabit network and 29 teraflops... They will be able to look at soooo much more porn now.
- diggn_it, on 07/27/2008, -10/+23Fudged71's idiocy is now a new meme. Congrats Person Who Takes the Internet Way Too Seriously, you have now accomplished the exact opposite of what you wanted to.
- requiem3, on 07/26/2008, -8/+21That comment is an epic battle of diggs and buries.
Will moral douchebags win? Or will the internet once again shamelessly triumph, so far it has 32 more diggs than buries. GO INTERWEBZ - inactive, on 07/25/2008, -14/+25VTECH just kicked in yo
- crowbar77, on 07/26/2008, -1/+12@MMaster
If your only an occasional gamer it still makes sense to still buy a Mac. You get the best of both worlds, obviously though if your using it as you main comp and your hardcore, not a good idea. - CATSCEO2, on 07/25/2008, -1/+12@moghua
I take it you didn't read the article... - VitriolAndAngst, on 07/25/2008, -4/+15Well, when they came out with the 3rd-place system last time, it was cheaper than the one in 100th place on another platform.
There is a lot of expensive, proprietary stuff in some of those super-computer setups. Even if you are going bare-bones UNIX systems, something has to synchronize the CPUs and memory. Apple has actually done a lot more than other "consumer and business" manufacturers to make parallel and grid computing easier.
there is probably some high-end IBM stuff that is better -- but it comes at a price. - tnoy, on 07/25/2008, -0/+10$2600 (edu discount) for a 8-core 2.8GHz Xeon is a very good price.
Just pull your head out of your ass and do the math behind it. Two 2.8GHz Harpertown Xeons alone will cost you around $1400. A typical motherboard that would compare the the one in the Mac Pro (1600mhz fsb, multiple 16x PCI-E, up to 32GB of ram, etc: around $400, a decent enclosure that supports an E-ATX motherboard: $200-300. Quality 1000w power supply: $250.
That alone already pushes you above the $2k mark, and you still need to add a video card, RAM, hdd, etc. Most people dont seem to get what hardware is actually inside a Mac Pro.
I've been building my own machines since I was about 10 years old, and I've always vowed to never buy a system from an OEM. I also detest the way Apple locks their OS to their hardware, I doubt I'll ever own any of their hardware. Even faced with that, I still think that I'd be an idiot not to buy the Mac Pro if I wanted that level of hardware. Dell, Lenovo, HP, etc, are all more expensive than the Mac Pro. Shopping at Newegg (using quality parts) Its difficult to build a machine significantly cheaper. Sure, you can skimp aget get things like E3220 Xeons, a Intel 3010 chipset-based motherboard with one 16x slot, etc, for cheaper, you just cant knock the Mac Pro for being overpriced. (unless you buy extra RAM from Apple) - RadioFreeOpium, on 07/25/2008, -0/+10evidently you didnt read the article. As doubleaught pointed out: "And, despite common wisdom to the contrary, the Mac Pros beat other systems on price. "The Mac Pros are highly competitive even against building a white box off the cheapest prices," he added."
- merreborn, on 07/25/2008, -1/+11Apple sells at commodity prices.
IBM sells at insane prices.
Even at $5k each, that's only $1.6 million dollars, total.
$1.6 million won't buy you a IBM "supercomputer". It'll barely buy you an IBM doorstop.
IBM's BlueGene project had a $100 million budget, and runs around 200 TFLOPS.
These guys are planning on getting 10% of that power for 1% of the price. Sounds like a good idea to me. - acevoncash, on 07/25/2008, -1/+11don't digg him down - hes right.
- VitriolAndAngst, on 07/25/2008, -2/+11" Varadarajan and his team chose Mac Pros for a few reasons. For one, Xserves are power dense, which requires a lot of cooling to prevent thermal hot spots. "System X has a hybrid liquid-air cooling system in a dedicated facility, which enables significantly better cooling without hot spots. This machine is however, housed in a conventional air cooled room," Varadarajan told us. Also, the Mac Pro has a large number of power and temperature sensors built in, which is necessary for the power/performance research and tuning, as well as an additional full-height PCI Express 2.0 slot for use in other research projects. And, despite common wisdom to the contrary, the Mac Pros beat other systems on price. "The Mac Pros are highly competitive even against building a white box off the cheapest prices," he added.
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>> I'd also have to admit, that they are probably going to get more press because this is Macs and not Linux boxes, and that they are doing performance tuning that would be VERY helpful to Apple. So they probably will get a donation.
Otherwise, I'd have to say that if you are looking for top tier performance, these macs are very competitive. It's just most people want bang-for-the-buck at a lower price point. - mjworthey, on 07/25/2008, -11/+20But the mouse still only has one button.
- CATSCEO2, on 07/25/2008, -0/+9Yes.
- liljay2k, on 07/25/2008, -3/+12I see what you did there
- merreborn, on 07/25/2008, -5/+14This is what digg has become?
What was once a tech news site is now filled with people who don't understand the word "teraflop"? - inactive, on 07/26/2008, -14/+22Touché, B1663r. Touché.
- DeFex, on 07/25/2008, -8/+16"especially when apple sends us ones at a spec you cant buy with the max CPU and RAM and minimum everything else, at a massive discount for publicity".
- CATSCEO2, on 07/25/2008, -0/+8Omnipotent voice @ apple: "You must construct additional pylons."
Fixed. - h0m3styl3, on 07/25/2008, -2/+10Macbook and Macbook pro when purchased as little as a month after (or the day of in regards to the Macbook) release. Their prices never go down as the prices of the components go down.
Macs do less is false, but Macs cost more is still very true in most cases. - inactive, on 07/26/2008, -13/+20LOL!
- Seanathan, on 07/25/2008, -0/+7If that's how people think of us, it's because of douches like you that keep bringing that ***** up.
- Jus2Gud, on 07/25/2008, -0/+7Maybe you're right but you're comparing the retail price of the stuff, educational institutions get discounts remember so maybe he's talking about those prices...if he's not then I don't know what he's talking about and of course you could build it cheaper.
- fegul, on 07/25/2008, -1/+8Well hello Debbie Downer...
- ferrariman60, on 07/25/2008, -5/+12Wouldn't it be a lot cheaper and more powerful to just buy a lot of Nvidia Tesla stream procs? Probably more efficient, in any case.
- y0urcl0ne, on 07/25/2008, -2/+8"The Mac Pros are highly competitive even against building a white box off the cheapest prices,"
- GaryChalmers, on 07/25/2008, -8/+14I know for a fact that I can build a system identical to a Mac Pro from Newegg for cheaper. Macs these days are just PCs running OSX (which I doubt VT is going to be running). If the price/performance Mac Pros was that great, wouldn't companies like Google use them, instead of off the shelf stuff? The professor sounds like an idiot, no matter what he says.
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