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- afex, on 10/12/2007, -2/+142do RPG rounds come at your car often? you may want to rethink the routes you're taking.
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -5/+40The video itself reminds me more of a UAC weapon briefing video from Doom 3. I kept expecting an Imp to pop up on the screen midway through it.
- ABadInAlbany, on 10/12/2007, -7/+40cool, except it's not a force field, it's more of a particle beam. but not a high energy particle beam, a macro particle beam.
- ThinkBox, on 10/12/2007, -4/+29OK, I'm not a dupe Nazi - but please dont say "JUST RELEASED" or "NEW" in the description if it wasn't just released.
Youtube video was posted July 22nd 06 - (and isn't the only Youtube post on this topic) this has been on digg multiple times. Techeblog is just slow on this one.
Again, this is cool, post it again if you think more people need to hear about it, just dont include false information. I already saw this video and clicked the link hoping for NEW JUST RELEASED information. - Antagonist, on 10/12/2007, -3/+26Particle beam? you mean projectile, right?
How much ammo does this thing have?
Oh, and an RPG Vs. a Abrams, Abrams will win almost 90% of the time. Continued, sustained RPG fire barely makes a dent. This'll be good on Strikers and APCs though. - ArchieAndrews, on 10/12/2007, -1/+22Exactly. This was through here before and people called it a force field then too. It isn't:
"Once an incoming threat is detected identified and verified, the Countermeasure Assembly is opened, the countermeasure device is positioned in the direction where it can effectively intercept the threat. Then, it is launched automatically into a ballistic trajectory to intercept the incoming threat at a relatively long distance."
http://www.defense-update.com/products/t/trophy.htm
It tracks and shoots down incoming threats. - Crass22, on 10/12/2007, -1/+20You're right Cheney,
Another worry is collateral damage, he said. “In a tight urban area, the Trophy system may take out the RPG, but we may kill 20 people in the process,” Sorenson said. “That is a concern we have that we haven’t fully evaluated.”
from: http://www.defense-update.com/products/t/trophy.htm
either way technology like this always get me exited, last year it was MTHEL, and the year before it was the DREAD weapon system, i wonder whatever happened to DREAD... - muyuu, on 10/12/2007, -0/+17Yep, it's old, it's israeli and it's NOT a force field.
But I guess it's cool nonetheless if you missed it the last time around. - coheedcollapse, on 10/12/2007, -0/+13I've seen this before. It's not a high powered laser or anything energy-based for that matter, but rather a detection system that reaches out from the tank and basically lets loose a handful of pellets at any incoming projectiles that activates an explosion before it actually has a chance to pierce the shell of the vehicle.
Innovative, yes, but nothing star wars. - Slybri, on 10/12/2007, -1/+13When I saw this on the web 4 months ago they said it was Isreali technology.
- spiralspirit, on 10/12/2007, -0/+12If you check out the video, it says its made for the merkava 4 and "idf specifications". Sounds pretty isreali to me.
- portwojc, on 10/12/2007, -0/+9@Antagonist
No an Abrams will not win 90% of the time against an RPG. I was a tank driver and I was taught to worry about RPGs as much as mines. RPGs target the vulnerable spots like the rear and the tracks. Usually it doesn't destory just disables which is the same for a tank. - panique, on 10/12/2007, -0/+8The background music reminded me of C&C. I think that's sorta funny.
- noodlez, on 10/12/2007, -5/+13indeed. it detects, aims, and then shoots a smallish matter beam at the incoming target.
its closer to a really accurate, rapid fire BB gun than a star trek style force field. - daborg, on 10/12/2007, -0/+7Marked as inaccurate because this is not a force field. Cool but the title leads to disappointment.
- bcorder, on 10/12/2007, -5/+12Aye, Captain, I canna give ya any more power to the shields or we'll blow her apart.
- nodong, on 10/12/2007, -2/+9Macro Particle Beam?
What a stupid way to refer to what is basically a high tech shotgun. - IceIX, on 10/12/2007, -1/+8Nice concept, but what is the rate for false positives by the tracking system? Would you really want to be the infantrymen who have to run alongside these things when any sudden movements may trigger the BB gun of doom to lace you with anti-ballistic pellets???
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -5/+11This submission is either purposefully inaccurate or mind-numbingly ignorant. This countermeasure is essentially a smaller version of a weapon that has been used on many Navy ships for decades. It's a gun connected to some sort of a radar/sensor device. When the radar/sensor detects an incoming missile, it aims the gun into the incoming missile's direction and fires conventional ammunition to shoot the missile down.
It's just a small anti-missile system, folks. Nothing to get too excited about. - inactive, on 10/12/2007, -1/+5Think of a shotgun attached to a rig that has freedom of movement in 2 planes (leftright/updown) and a radar. Radar detect an incoming threat, moves the rig and fires the shotgun. Pellets are released at the incoming RPG and the threat neutralised. Have multiple firing platforms and you can handle multiple incoming threats.
Theres nothing extraordinary about it. Stick metal storm on the sucker and you could be firing hundreds of thousands of rounds per second at incoming threats - spiralspirit, on 10/12/2007, -0/+5actually the video is from rafael, an israeli company under the Israeli Department of Defence.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/RAFAEL_Armament_Development_Authority - basselope, on 10/12/2007, -0/+5good intro to the Israeli "Trophy" system (with video)
http://www.qando.net/details.aspx?Entry=4532
Article from Sept-2006 about U.S. not using Trophy system
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/14686871/
And, what the hey... how about some frickin' Laser beams
(U.S./Isreali weapons testing, from June 2000)
http://www-cgi.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0006/07/wv.04.html - Thuktun, on 10/12/2007, -0/+5I've always thought that the Phalanx CIWS looked like the child of an A-10 Thunderbolt and R2/D2.
- Madh2orat, on 10/12/2007, -1/+5Are we sure this isn't from section 5 at Global Dynamics?
- dimplemonkey, on 10/12/2007, -0/+4So what about a multitude of elephant guns? Can it stop it's onslaught?
- Thunderrock, on 10/12/2007, -2/+5"Another breakthrough for cyberdyne systems."
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3Was it deployed on Merkava 3's & israeli apc's in the recent campain in Lebanon?
Hezbollah (who did not use sucky rpg's like the iraqi insurgents use, but russian anti-tank missiles) inflicted heavy casualties on israeli armor. - jasonlyvers, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3It isn't Paytheon, it's Raytheon. They also make fish finders. Unlike the Trophy, the fish aren't actually blown up.
- FireStrife, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3I think your trying to say CIWS or Close In Weapons System, A Gatling gun with a radar housing designed to intercept incoming missle threats to Navy Ships. This is close to the same thing but CIWS's are quite large and have usually a lot of radar room to track. This differs though on ground vehicles due to the close proximity and the weight of such a system.
- lordmetroid, on 10/12/2007, -1/+3Awsome, I could even imagine myself to be a part of the Israeli army considering their technological advances prioritzing survival due to their scarse population.
- protogenxl, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2MSNBC has reported that there is resistance against incorporating TROPHY in the US Army. The US has contracted Raytheon to develop an equivalent system, which will not be ready before 2011 at the earliest, whereas TROPHY could be deployed much sooner. According to MSNBC's sources, the reason for not adopting TROPHY for now is that it would remove the need for the Raytheon program, causing it to be canceled.
http://msnbc.msn.com/id/14686871/page/1 - rusty_g, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2yeah, i saw this on digg a while back... can't remember when.. but this is old
- TexMurphy, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2I read about this wepon system from Isrealies it sucks. The video is missleading it leads you into beleaving the system protection is all 360 degrees. It does not only the sides not the bottom or the top. Furthermore most insugents attack the viechels weak points witch are the top and bottom of any armored vehicle. RPGs come from the top, double stacked mines come from the bottom. Also one main point the US goverment will not buy these is because any civilin cought next to the shield is *****.......
Add all these factors and you cant justify the wieght this crap add to our vehicle - OBKenobi, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2Ok, so why did you all Digg this?
INNACCURATE. LAME. DUPE. - elpayo, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2That video reminds me of the commercial at the beginning of 'Real Genius' for the Crossbow.
"The Crossbow Project. There's no defense like a good offense." - dgh1973, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2OK, so it's not an "invisible forcefield"... it's simply a point defense system.
- mandarin, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2This will work till someone gets your prefix code number to order your tank to lower the shields....
- zbeast, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2Rock or RPG that's easy..
not only can't you tell what type of weapon is coming at you.
You can even determine it's size, weight and composition.
systems like this use mm-Wave radar and can be very discriminating - videoCT, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1interesting they only show missiles exploding in mid-air, with no tank or APC in sight.
- OBKenobi, on 10/12/2007, -2/+3The Russians have had anti-missile systems like this since the 1970s (Arena, Zaslon, Drozd, Shtora). GD copies it (actually, it's an Israeli design they licensed) and suddenly it's an "invisible forcefield"!
It doesn't have ANYTHING to do with forcefields. Someone should sue them for false advertizing. You know they wanted the DoD to buy this from them, and YOU would have paid for it.
See how these military contractors work? Invisible forcefield... what a joke. It's questionable where it even works as advertized. The Russians seem to think it does, but it hasn't really been tested in combat yet.
INACCURATE. LAME. DUPE. - dtfinch, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1Now they'll start covering their projectiles with radar absorbent paint.
- Zoglog, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1forcefield my ass, it's just a fricking radar linked to an autofire tracking system. More like point defense. Interesting technology still but original digger needs to go write for fox news.
- protogenxl, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1This was installed on the Aston Martin V12 Vanquish James Bond car.
But this just proves that we should start outsourcing Homeland Security to Israel. - garrettgjb, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1Am I going crazy or was this already on the front page and talked about on diggnation? I remember digging a very simmilar video.
- greenamp, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1He was just repeating terminology used in the video.
- kutsal, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1Uhm.. It's not really a force field you know.. It's just a device that scans for threats and once it finds them (i.e. RPG rounds), it figures out the trajectory, and fires a high-speed projectile at it, thus "disabling" the incoming threat..
While a cool idea for mobile units that go into battle alone or with other heavily armored units, guess what happens to those things that are not armored (think marines, ground support, etc) that happened to be in the way of these projectiles.... - inactive, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1Yeah, it's not designed to stop artillery shells (nearly impossible) or other long range ordnance. It's specifically designed to counteract the most dangerous close range threats, which in this case arehandheld RPGs. You could mount one of these babies on a Blackhawk and put a stop to RPGs taking them down on a monthly basis.
- evansls, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1This technology is made and developed by the Israeli's a few years ago.
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -2/+3popfrogs:
Odd that you should call me a noob. Before you open you mouth and say stupid things again, you should check your facts. I am sure you are confusing EMP hardened structures with what I said... there is no such thing as a guarenteed emp proof mobile device. Specially when you have to plug it into an power source to charge it up.
"The National Academy of Sciences recently stated that tailored hardening is "not only deceptively difficult, but also very poorly understood by the defence-electronics community."
This new force field is vaporware. What happend to the HMS Sheffield will happen to some hapless tank commander one day thinking that this will save him. heh -
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