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- Evildudetx, on 10/12/2007, -19/+65Just don't buy this crap. Blu-ray isn't the only game in town and I for one will NEVER purchase this technology.
It is complete and utter ***** that I can not use the media I payed for in any fashion I see fit. ***** Sony. - Otto, on 10/12/2007, -6/+44Nonsense. Studios want to sell their content. If nobody has a Blu-Ray player, then nobody's going to buy Blu-Ray disks. Which means they don't get paid.
Yes, they do want to protect their content. But only because they think that doing so will make them more money. Take that away, and they'll sell to you in another format instead.
Don't ever think that the consumer is not ultimately in charge. - kenvsryu, on 10/12/2007, -8/+40If it's man made it can be broken.
- Evi1d33d, on 10/12/2007, -0/+27I give it two weeks before it gets cracked again.
- Dgen_X, on 10/12/2007, -0/+25I don't...I want a physical copy of the media
not some locked down file that I can only play on one machine (maybe a second if it's in the same home etc.)
give me a physical copy that I can play anywhere or I won't pay for....hell I won't even bother pirating the "intellectual" property - headzoo, on 10/12/2007, -5/+19"That is still a ways off...."
I do look forward to those days. In the meantime I'll just sit here watching a HD movie that was delivered to my Xbox 360 over the Internet (online). - danjal, on 10/12/2007, -4/+17I think the future of media is online content, the whole HD/Blue-ray will play second fiddle to downloadble content
- Wolfman~K, on 10/12/2007, -10/+22Disks are so dead... online content delivery is the future.
- FieldAnonymouse, on 10/12/2007, -3/+12So, if I'm reading this right, they're designing new ciphers to combat an attack that's not used.
That's like spraying yourself with fire-retardant in an effort to make yourself bulletproof.
Still, it doesn't matter what they do. As long as the end user has the encrypted media, the keys, and the methods for decryption there is no way they can copy protect it for very long. - inactive, on 10/12/2007, -10/+18That is still a ways off....
- cubey, on 10/12/2007, -2/+9"CLEFIA" sounds like an std. "I'm sorry to inform you that you have contracted Clefia", or maybe "Clefia can be transmitted from genitals to mouth and is often fatal within a week"
- Hellfire51, on 10/12/2007, -0/+7This is just wasted effort. I would not doubt that this cipher is less secure than the AES encryption that Blu-ray and HD-DVD use now. AES has been around for years and is the accepted standard. It hasn't been broken yet either, so why do they bother making up their own proprietary scheme? This wreaks of WEP, which showed that without sufficient security oversight, these encryption schemes made up by engineers just suck.
- dasunst3r, on 10/12/2007, -4/+10Christmas comes early for the DRM-breakers... they just got a new toy to play with! Thanks, Sorny!
- myxyplik, on 10/12/2007, -7/+13Blu-ray may be outselling HD-DVD, but legacy DVD is outselling the both of them combined. I'm with evildude; I will not support this technology with my money. And when they stop selling DVDs, well, I'll just be content with what I have then.
- Phocion55, on 10/12/2007, -10/+15"This tells a lot about the Digg community."
Wrong. This tells a lot about Sony as a company. - KissTheRing, on 10/12/2007, -2/+7@headzoo
You've got a point, but the 360 service is rental only, people want to own some movies. Also, the 360 HD movies are only 720p Blu-ray and HD DVD are 1080p, plus on the internet connection I mentioned in the above comment I rented V for Vendetta in HD from the Live Marketplace and it took longer to download than it did to watch. If I have to wait more than 5 to 10 minutes for my movie to start then forget it. - Elbart, on 10/12/2007, -2/+7Too bad no one cares for BluRay.
- myxyplik, on 10/12/2007, -0/+4@Topher
Um, as a matter of fact, they own THREE studios: Columbia, Tri-Star, and MGM. - eggo, on 10/12/2007, -1/+5The way Sony keeps trotting out new ciphers to be cracked, it seems they are trying to move in on Dell's business.
No, not THAT Dell, this one: http://www.dellmagazines.com/order/variety.shtml - cwmonkey, on 10/12/2007, -0/+4made if man broke not made, man
- adarkmethod, on 10/12/2007, -2/+6studios are gonna go with Hd DVD for a few reasons.
First, Porn has made thier choice, HD.
Second, Its cheaper. WAY cheaper.. like 1/4. Both for the HD Readers and HD Disks
Third, Sony has become an evil ***** company who no one should spend a dime supporting. The people will speak out. If the "Industry" goes with blu-ray, so be it. We'll all have one more reason to hit up our favorite torrent tracker. Because if you think im dropping $500 or even $50 on a Blu Ray player, because "the Industry" thinks i need to, you're ***** crazy. - Nespithe, on 10/12/2007, -3/+7When are these morons going to learn it only takes one person
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -1/+4Cracking the new DRM IN .......5......4.....3....2....1. done that was easy.
- vastrightwing, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3I have totally boycotted DRM. I will not buy DRM anything, if I know it's DRM locked.
Imagine buying a car that only you can drive. Yes, in order for your spouse to drive your car, you must purchase a separate license for her. - inactive, on 10/12/2007, -22/+24and seeing how Blu-Ray is outselling HD-DVD 3 to 1 and pushing out movies from 6 of the 7 major studios I guess Blu-Ray isn't going away anytime soon now is it?
- minitrucker007, on 10/12/2007, -6/+8***** Sonys DRM and ***** the RIAA!!!!
- nayr, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2umm, It's the MPAA.
- javaroast, on 10/12/2007, -1/+3Uh I'll bite Mr Bad Analogy guy...
My spouse does need a totally separate license in order to legally drive my car. - Mothrog, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2When will these idiots every learn? Ever heard of DVD-Audio? SACD? No? Same reason. Obnoxious DRM and in fighting over whose format is the best. If these morons want high def DVDs to succeed, can the worthless DRM and develop a standard format. Why would anyone switch from DVD at this point?
- steven401, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2"My spouse does need a totally separate license in order to legally drive my car."
I think he means a separate car. - cgranade, on 10/12/2007, -10/+12You do know that both Blu-ray and HD-DVD use the same DRM scheme, right? It's called AACS, and it was cracked for both next-gen formats at once. Moreover, Sony is not the only backer of Blu-ray. While Sony has done a lot that deserves Sony-bashing, being on behind Blu-ray is not one of them.
- GMorgan, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1It's an implication.
A = It's man made.
B = It can be broken
A => B does not mean B => A but it does mean ¬B => ¬A. - Mothrog, on 10/12/2007, -1/+2Make a backup copy easily and cheaply.
- apothekari, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1Here's an idea, Sony.
Instead of figuring out more and more elaborate ways to "protect content" why not spend a little effort making a goddamn good game I might want to play!
Spending all this time money and effort on this stupidity has gotten you what exactly, this go round?
You are so busy "protecting"you are neglecting the "content"
A cart before the horse exactly. - acdcfanbill, on 10/12/2007, -1/+2oh, too bad it's too late to go into blu ray standards... so what is the point for this. no one would design a cypher for use 10 yrs from now, and it could only be for multimedia purposes. so barring some kind of new format, i don't see what good this will do.
- DTJunkie07, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1My problem is that I own a HD-DVD player but have only watched one movie on it and my local Blockbuster doesn't rent out HD-DVDs. Then there is Blu-Ray which has all the movies I want to see.....but I wont use the technology!.....Never!.....I cant!.....It'll never happen!.....Ever! Spiderman 3....dammit the hell. So I just might see about getting a PS3 when they come down in price.
- kiddsickuras, on 10/12/2007, -2/+2Anyone that supports Sony is the kind of person that likes to get ganged raped without any lube. I wont even mention the serious consumer violations this company has committed. That way I don't understand why anyone would buy a piece of ***** PS3 or an over-priced BD player. Yes HD-DVD has DRM schemes but it less the Blurry Ray not mention theres no region coding and its a hell of a lot cheaper, plus the fricken extra are finalized and work. HD-DVD is the lesser of the two evils especially since Toshiba just wants to produce Hardware which pirates have a very hard time duplicating. ***** Sony.
- clearzen, on 10/12/2007, -1/+1It will just be a matter of time before this too is broken. The whole scheme is flawed, you have to have the key to decode it to watch the video. Doesn't this mean that you have both the key and the encryption algorithm in your position with a blu-ray dvd player and disk? Why even waste your money developing this kind of technology?
- MWeather, on 10/12/2007, -2/+2Could someone remind me what I can do with a DVD that I can't do with Blu-Ray?
- Topher06, on 10/12/2007, -3/+3"Seeing as they're actually making an effort to obey the hollywood studios that have them wrapped around their finger"
Pardon me, doesn't Sony OWN a HOLLYWOOD movie studio? They only want aggresive DRM because they produce the content they are protecting.
So far, its pretty muich only Sony and Fox (I think) content sold on Blu-ray, so its in Sony's best interest to protect the format further. - adarkmethod, on 10/12/2007, -1/+1@dtjunkie
While i cant say i dont understand why you want to cave,,, the sad reality is, if you do you've jsut encouraged Sony's policy of using money and power to snuff out freedom of choice. - inactive, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0Too late. Obviously nothing will change in the deep end of things or people would need new players.
- MWeather, on 10/12/2007, -1/+1"So far, its pretty muich only Sony and Fox (I think) content sold on Blu-ray"
Actually, 7 of the 8 major studios release movies on Blu-Ray: Disney, Fox, Warner, Paramount, Sony, Lionsgate and MGM.
While HD-DVD is supported by: Universal, Warner, and Paramount - Cherubim, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0The use of optical media for content distribution is fast dying. Digital streaming is the future.
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -1/+1"Uh I'll bite "
He wasn't trolling, so what are you biting at? - Mothrog, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0@Mweather:
The burners themselves are $800+, the media's $20+ a pop, to my knowledge there are no nice easy tools to use to back up Blu-Ray comparable to the ones that exist for DVDs. And then, of course, is the possibility that after you drop $800 or more on a player, another $800 on a burner, and more for the media, that the format will go the way of Betamax. Nothing about that sounds cheap or easy to me. - MWeather, on 10/12/2007, -1/+1You can do that with Blu-Ray too. Obviously having more data to back up will cost more, but on a per-gigabyte basis, Blu-Ray disks aren't much more expensive than dual layer DVDs .
- wtf00, on 10/12/2007, -3/+2let the cat and mouse game begin... when, when,when are this ***** dumbass corp ever going to get it.. IS GOING TO GET CRACK!!
- acdcfanbill, on 10/12/2007, -3/+1If it's been man-broken it might possibly have been man-made.
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -2/+0Anything one man can build another can take apart -ancient proverb. In many cases it is the same people who build the copy protection who write the programs that break it. There will never be fool proof copy protection. Companies have been claiming that they will create one since the invention of the cassette tape and 5" floppy. I am going to get back to copying the DVDs I rented now since Digg isn't really very intresting today.
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