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TiVo releases dual-tuner Series 2 DVR

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  • TheKillDoctor, on 10/12/2007, -0/+7Unfortunately TiVo no longer will let a consumer purchase a life-time subscription. Instead I'd have to pay a monthly fee which just really sucks. Don't know how else to say it. I just can't see paying another monthly bill.
  • Kitsune818, on 10/12/2007, -0/+7It's amazing to see how poorly managed Tivo is. They've got the premier product for their market.. hell, "Tivo" has become a verb.. and they can't turn a profit. Their new pricing plan is very much a step in the wrong direction.. They offered the ability to download a show off of the tivo but they encumber it. Their "Accidental" restricted viewing of some shows not too long ago (aka "The Red Flag")..

    I think anyone with half a brain could turn that company around overnight by going back to the roots of the company's persona. At this point, I'm just hoping they get bought out by someone with some marketing ability.. Yahoo, Google, Dell, Apple, even MS..
  • Anth, on 10/12/2007, -1/+6The TiVo PR is here: http://www.tivo.com/cms_static/press_88.html

    Ethernet and two tuners. Yeah! If I weren't waiting for a Series 3 HD TiVo I'd get one of these.
  • fani, on 10/12/2007, -0/+5I pay $9.95 / month for my Comcast DVR box that lets me record 2 programs simultaneously in HD and watch a third. It has a 120GB HDD that can store 30 hours of HD programming or 90 hours SD programming. Tivo is great but Comcast works for me. No complaints so far.
    I can also stream the mpg transport stream files to my PC and burn later on a DVD and I've had this 2 tuner DVR for almost 2 years now.
    So I'm happy and also - welcome to the Tivo users to this 2 tuner DVR awesomeness.
  • Ludwig, on 10/12/2007, -0/+5Yep. I would be buying one of these if I could still put a lifetime subscription on it.

    I'm stuck with my Series 1 until it dies, and then I'll just build a Myth box.
  • Yoda716, on 10/12/2007, -0/+4Took them long enough and no HD? phhhft. I am unimpressed.
  • brainScan, on 10/12/2007, -0/+4I received an email offering the dual-tuner box with 1 year pre-paid for $254 because I'm an exisiting subscriber... That works out to be $12.92 / month! ($99 for TiVo box, $12.92 per month x 12 months = $254).

    The bummer is that, I assume, my monthly TiVo subscription would be $16.99 per month after that, even though it is $12.99 now. This might be a gimmick to screw me out of my low-priced $12.99/month subscription.

    Visit http://gcburgess.googlepages.com/tivo for screenshots of the email.
  • zeio, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3Tivo sold out. They are dead to me. I own several. Next will be an HTPC/Myth TV. No lifetimes = no business.

    Tivo had a chance to make good money on the appliance - they should have sold it without hard drives and supported upgrades from day 1.

    All they did to its users is ban people from sharing the OS image so we could easily restore a broken Tivo.

    Tivo sold out, and they still do stupid things like cancel a 30 min recording if there is a 1 min encroachment from another schedule, the schedules are getting shoddier, they always get re-runs and miss first showings - they are degrading. Also, if you read various tvtome type sites youll see people say "My tivo cut out the end, what happened".

    Tivo jumped the shark. I wrote them a nasty letter when they cancelled lifetime buyout. Disloyal fools.
  • CubeFarmDrone, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3TiVoToGo transfers to you laptop don't really sound very much like DRM to me. I need the HD support though so I will stick to my Time Warner Box that already has two tuners and HD support.
  • eppler, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3They reduce your monthly to $6.95 per month on your existing TiVo. The $16.95 is for the 1 year contract on the older Series 2 to help pay for the hardware, since there is no upfront costs on that model. This model you are paying $254 outright which means you own the box and service for a year. After the year, you can resume your $12.95 rate + the $6.95 rate of your current box (if you choose to keep 2 boxes - which is great with MRV).
  • Kitsune818, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3I tried the Comcast DVR (Motorolla) after using the Tivo for about 4 years. It lasted two months before I wanted to chuck it out the window. Yes, it will record, sure, it will record two things and it has HD.. but it is maddeningly difficult to use compared to the Tivo. Honestly, if you haven't owned both of them, you don't know what you are missing..

    The only thing the cable co boxes have going for them is HDTV.. otherwise, they completely, thoroughly suck.. Like a bad Chinese knock-off of the real thing. I can see why you would put up with it if you had HD, but if you don't like me, you'll probably very nearly destroy the thing in frustration.

    Tivo is good for my blood pressure.
  • craigtheguru, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3You're not the only one waiting for the Series 3 TiVos. Can't wait to combine TiVo's ease-of-use and HD dual-tuner goodness.

    My Series 2 is good for SD content, but for HD I'm forced to use Comcast's DVR and it is a piece of garbage. I want nothing more than to throw the Comcast DVR out the window and run it over with my car.
  • redrighthand, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3The COX DVR service I have is 10 bucks more than a normal cable box and the hardware is included in the monthly charge. I'd love a TIVO but I'm not unhappy enough with my Cox Box to justify the added fees.
  • angelp, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3I love my TiVo, but I won't be buying another one until it can record HD.
  • scagnetti, on 10/12/2007, -1/+4Probably something like 2%? Where are you getting your facts? It's apparent you're just speculating. Check this article:

    http://www.researchandmarkets.com/reports/c34573/

    "By the end of 2005 there were 19m households with HDTV sets in the US (17% of total TV households) with 11m of these watching HD broadcasts."
  • LtCarter47, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2"How can tivo still not have a dvr pvr..."

    What?
  • Otto, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2Same here. Monthly fee? No sale.

    I have lifetime service on my series 1 unit and will be not be upgrading. If they lack a lifetime subscription, then MythTV is my only choice after I dump Tivo.
  • Lynxpro, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2NewsCorp. - the Rupert Murdoch entity - is currently the owner/majority shareholder of DirecTV with a 33% stake in the company. This is why DirecTV has moved away from TiVo and has started pushing the DirecTV DVR (the R-15) which was designed by Murdoch owned NDS Corp. DirecTV has offered TiVo hardware for their services since TiVo debuted. The difference is that the DirecTV units were always "dual" tuner, but ever since Murdoch gained control of the company, he's blocked the various TiVo Home Media updates to the DirecTiVo units while TiVo updated the software on their stand-alone units. Murdoch has been trying to artificially cripple the DirecTiVos in this way so that they can't show up the subpar NDS offerings. In essence, Murdoch is using DirecTV to shore up his failed investment in NDS at the expense of TiVo, Inc. and the customers.
  • raitchison, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2No worse than any other Stand Alone TiVo. Yes there is DRM but that doesn't prevent me from exercising my fiar use rights to do things like copy shows between TiVo's or to my PC or even to burn them to DVD, all with an unhacked TiVo, using nothing but TiVo provided software (or a web browser) and using Nero to brun shows to DVD.
  • LtCarter47, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2"and they still do stupid things like cancel a 30 min recording if there is a 1 min encroachment from another schedule..."

    If I recall correctly, that was fixed in a recent software update. You might need to go into settings and turn it on though.
  • iamsjn, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2They're gonna have to sweeten that pot in order for me to jump shark. I've got lifetime service right now. I knew I smelled something foul when they killed their lifetime service plan. I could feel that they were getting ready to release something.

    I'll dump the lifetime service if they throw in 1 year of service FREE with a $99 Tivo Dual Tuner.... Screw this $254 nonsense...

    SjN
  • DRawkus, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2There is a fine print that states something like you can only record - 1 Standard Channel and 1 Digital Channel at the same time. That sucks.
  • kuya, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2It would have been cheaper to get another TiVo box with Product Lifetime (when it was available) rather than buying a Dual Tuner box WITHOUT Lifetime.

    What is TiVo thinking?
  • raitchison, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2Actually the DirecTiVo units have been dual tuners for years, since well before Newscorp bought DirecTV and decided to replace the TiVo units with their cheaper generic DVRs
  • Chewie67, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2"My DirecTV DVR records two channels while I watch another. $4.95 per month. HoHum"

    I saw this story last night, and was thinking the same thing. My DVR from Time Warner has done this for 2 years. I can record 2 programs and watch another that's already been recorded -- all at the same time.

    I thought TIVO was the end-all, be-all of DVR's? It took this long to be able to record 2 programs at once?
  • kuya, on 10/12/2007, -1/+3No Product Lifetime = No Digg.
  • KissTheRing, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2I only pay $6.95/month for my TiVo service. I was paying $12.95 until I messed it up when I was adding a new HDD. So then I called to cancel my service until I got it fixed. They guy I talked to said I could have my service fee reduced to $6.95/month for life if I just would not cancel. My story was legit, but if somebody were to call and tell the same story and say they want to quit I bet they would offer a similar deal. Even if they didn't, you could always reactivate it.
  • buckykatt, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1fani, I have the same box (moto 6412 methinks) and looking to do the same...how do you stream the files? Got a link for more info?
    thanks
  • angelp, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1I have the Comcast box along with my TiVo and I must say the Comcast's interface is horrible. But the fact that it can record two channels (HD as well) is the reason I keep it. Not to mention, it's cheap.
  • lepton, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1I've got an HD DirectTiVo box and it is great except for one big thing - the software in it is about 4 versions behind even the series 2 TiVos! Dual tuners yes, but poor conflict resolution, no folders, etc. It's been many years since an update, get on it TiVo!
  • drwtsn32, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1This is the first standalone TiVo (for cable subscribers) that has dual tuners.
  • Lynxpro, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1The user interface and the software itself on the Comcast (Motorola) boxes suck. It crashes and in many cases does not record programs. Its had issues with fast-forwarding through commercials during Fox programming. The hardware is nice, but the software stinks, and that is why Comcast is paying TiVo to port its software over to the Motorola boxes which will debut as an upgrade option (so far) in the 4th Quarter 2006. If TiVo does not bring back the Lifetime Service for the Series3 DMR units, then I will switch over to the Comcast box after the TiVo software option becomes available. The unofficial Firewire transfer of programming is crazy delicious, from what I read... :)
  • Mechanized, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1I have so been waiting for this...
  • itsrainin, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1mine as well, but i noticed that a friend got DirecTV with DVR and it wasnt a tivo, did direcTV stop offering "Tivo" Brand DVR?
  • vypergts, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1I'm tempted by the offer...but if I stay with my current series 2 box I end up paying $155 (12.99 x 12) for the next 1 year of service. If I get the new one with the special offer, I end up with 2 boxes for $337.40 (6.95 x 12 + 254) for the next 1 year of service. Completely replacing my current series 2 with this one doesn't make sense either ($155 vs $254).

    I only have one tv in my apartment currently so I guess I will just wait and upgrade to the Series 3 when it comes out (hopefully this fall).
  • jeru48, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1It's about time. Glad I've been using UltimateTV and DirecTivo for a few years now.
  • raitchison, on 10/12/2007, -1/+2
    People talk a lot about HD content but in reality way less than 5% of houeshols (probably something like 2%) even have HD service. TiVo is coming out with a dual tuner HD unit later this year (sadly only for digital cable customers, not for satellite subscribers)
  • hexix, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1are you protesting against the reply button?
  • inactive, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1Wow, another Series 2 box?

    This Series 3 TiVo is going to turn out to be just as much vaporware as the TivoToGo software for the Mac.
  • 511pf, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1"i noticed that a friend got DirecTV with DVR and it wasnt a tivo, did direcTV stop offering "Tivo" Brand DVR?"

    ===================

    DirecTV no longer offers TiVo DVRs for sale. DirecTV will sell you their half baked substitute, or you could buy a used DirecTiVo on eBay.
  • hexix, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1I'm thinking about dong this. But I won't be reactivating if they don't let me, because I'm getting really sick of paying 13 bucks a month for a single-tuner box when I could be paying 10 bucks a month for a dual tuner box from my cable company.

    This "deal" that tivo is offering current subscribers who want this new dual tuner box is terrible. I can switch to my cable company's dual tuner box for 10 bucks a month or I can switch to this new tivo and have to pay what equates to 13 bucks a month and 99 bucks for the box? What the hell.

    I was eager for the series 3, but if they're going to rip off their customers this badly I'm probably just going to have to go elsewhere.
  • 511pf, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1TiVo's HD DVR will be out in the third quarter.
  • avengence, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1Havent there been dual tuners in TiVos for a long time? We have 4 DirecTV TiVos and they all have dual tuners.
  • kabewm, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1@511pf
    TiVo's HD DVR will be out in the third quarter.

    Yeah, and it will suppot Netflix movie downloads in HD, ship with Duke Nukem Forever and run the Phantom console games using the latest Microsoft Vista Core available . . .
  • inactive, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1Yeah, I got the e-mail from TiVo but was dissappointed b/c of the lack of HD support. I think I will wait until later this year when they put out the HD model.

    http://www.pvrblog.com/pvr/2006/01/hd_tivo_series_.html

    Plus it looks way cooler than the current one.
  • Whatchamacallit, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1Same here, have a Sony Series1 TiVo and I'm gonna upgrade it with an additional hard disk then eventually dump it for a homebuilt MythTV box. I'm a geek, having ease of use is not as important as not having to pay a subscription and not being hindered by DRM and forced advertising.
  • happenchance, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1You're only just getting dual tuners now?!?! That's shocking... here in the UK almost all the DVRs are dual tuners and have been for about a year or so now... and the new ones which were released last month have 3 tuners, and they're HD!
  • drwtsn32, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1I'm waiting for Series 3 that will do HD and support CableCard. Until then I'm sticking with my modded Series 1 that has a lifetime sub.
  • 511pf, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1"welcome to the Tivo users to this 2 tuner DVR awesomeness."

    ====================

    DirecTiVos have had two tuners for years.
  • revidium, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1Has anybody seen screenshots of the back of this new box? Is there a link?
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