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- Rockmaninoff, on 10/12/2007, -4/+34Or you could buy the LG Z1, Core 2 Duo T7200, 12.1" display, and it doesn't look preggers.
http://www.engadget.com/2007/01/08/lge-z1-laptop-packs-sideshow-too-but-sexier-this-time/
Don't get me wrong, I love Asus (I own a W7J). But the W5Fe looks horrendous IMO. - serend, on 10/12/2007, -3/+23Why must people put stupid meaningless comments just to put a link to their blog/web space?
- LilRabbitFooFoo, on 08/11/2008, -1/+17This is not the forum to "come out". Thanks for sharing though.
- Lazybones, on 10/12/2007, -0/+14It is SideShow NOT SlideShow.
Look here for more info: http://www.microsoft.com/windowsvista/features/foreveryone/sideshow.mspx#more - artofwar420, on 10/12/2007, -1/+14You suck Chandler, you know Joey is better than you.
- 7of7, on 10/12/2007, -1/+10Wow, that LG unit is sweet. Too bad I'll be using the Dell I got two years ago for several more years. As much as I love technology I hate e-waste.
- blahed, on 10/12/2007, -2/+8I don't really see the point. Show it to me please.
- mercurysquad, on 10/12/2007, -5/+11It's amazing how quickly hardware manufacturers have jumped on the bandwagon, tailoring their *hardware* (infact coming up with new hardware) to work with Vista, while the same companies refuse to even write drivers to make their existing hardware work with Linux. Sad.
- jdc760, on 10/12/2007, -0/+5Wait, shouldn't the title be "The Ultimate Windows Vista ULTIMATE Laptop"?
- rynoon, on 10/12/2007, -0/+5If you knew anything about Linux you wouldn't need to ask.
- 7of7, on 10/12/2007, -0/+5How about using it as a GPS map viewer so you don't have to boot into the full OS to navigate. You can also display your address book so you don't have to boot up to see someone's phone number or one of the neat sidebar gadgets like the Gmail notifier I use. It's pretty sweet. At the moment manufacturers and developers are free to develop whatever use they want for the extra screen.
- wastern, on 10/12/2007, -4/+9is anyone actually going to use those outside displays? It seems like a waste or money, one more thing to have to worry about when moving the laptop around, and something to drain the battery when the system isn't even on. Why mess with a little screen to view pics when you have a nice 15" high res screen right at your fingertips
I know if anyone started showing me a slideshow on that I'd stop them after the first pic and tell them to open the damn thing up like a normal person - nhassan, on 10/12/2007, -0/+5yeh, a lot of it
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -2/+6What exactly is it?
- JonForTheWin, on 10/12/2007, -1/+5"a year ago with the top specs at the time, inc 64mb ati video card."
Those were not the top specs . . . You are fail - Nysul, on 10/12/2007, -0/+4Oddly enough I installed vista on my pentium M 1.8ghz, intel 82852 (aka crappiest integrated card ever) with 1gig ram and Vista is actually much faster than a recent install of XP, fast enough that I deleted my XP partition. Of course I don't have the aero interface, but overall it feels snappier. So pretty much any laptop thats come out in the past year can handle it.
- afx1, on 10/12/2007, -0/+4Hmmm...what's this button do? Block!
- 7of7, on 10/12/2007, -1/+5Your laptop wasn't top of the line. Mine is two years old and has better specs than that including a GeForce 6800 and a Pentium M 760. I'm running brand new force ware with the video card OC'd when necessary and it is hot, but not incredibly. It's not Mac hot.
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -0/+4Kinda makes the whole point of the laptop useless.
- Spizzat2, on 10/12/2007, -1/+5You know how many extra letters would have been required to type "pregnant" instead of "preggers"?
I'm just saying... - Barlo_Mung, on 10/12/2007, -2/+6"sideshow is a technology for laptops that allows users to receive alarms for appointments, inspect e-mail, listen to music, etc all without having to first startup the PC."
It's that plus so much more. The SDK is available and easy to write to so 3rd party apps that do things people never thought of will be coming along.
@blashed
".....waits for the point."
Ouch, got you in the eye. Sorry about that. - inactive, on 10/12/2007, -2/+5Thats the Ultimate Windows Vista Laptop
£1,399 is $2,753.51 (USD) - inactive, on 10/12/2007, -8/+11Your iPod is also a DRM-loving piece of *****.
- RedLion, on 10/12/2007, -1/+4wastern: since the sdk is freely accessible I believe that we'll see interesting uses for that external display (geek-ish things like emule/torrent stats, emails, etc).
I have to admit unfortunately that I strongly doubt that, unless you are a tech-lover, you would ever want to spend more on your laptop just for this external display. - Pirkel, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3I have a 3 year old Gateway m505 and it has a little audio panel on the right side that allows you to play custom playlists whenever the notebook is turned off. It works pretty good, I just never have the occasion to use it.. it's like lugging around a 7 pound mp3 player.
This is what I'm talking about- http://www.alr.ru/prodimg/gwn_505f.gif - Mofassa, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2
@wastern
You fail to realize that that's a laptop, and that not everybody sits infront of their computers all day..(okay that was a cheap shot). Buuut, for someone who's actually on the go, and say needs to check an email, they dont' want to bother botting up (say a business person), they can use that outside display My guess uses MUCH less power than the actual laptop, to boot and run. The fact that it's called slideshow does not mean people are going to show slideshows on it. Think of it as a reference to something to quickly go over something.
I personally would actually consider investing in this, especially if it can run more things out of that screen - or if they made a tablet version of that (would have to be larger or support an add on), it'd be ideal for note taking in class and what not. My current tablet is great but battery is starting to die out. Ofcourse this laptop will cost a premium, but that by no means mean it doesn't have potential. - Ramble, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2You obviously know nothing about the heat hardware generates in modern systems. Most of the changes are extra screens or flash drives, both of which do not require cooling.
- elroy, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2I don't get it. I've always found flash memory to be pretty slow? I don't see how paging to it instead of your hard disk is going to speed things up...
- chicken101, on 10/12/2007, -4/+6SlideShow is a pretty neat idea.
- omatsei, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2It lets you see various things without having to boot up the laptop... like how many unread e-mails you have, maybe it'll play MP3's, watch movies, etc. It seems kinda gimmicky, but if it actually does all that without using a lot of the battery, it could be very useful.
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2edit:
someone already asked that question so digg me down :-) - TheNik, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2Does anyone know if that ReadyBoost thing actually increases performance? Could I add 4GB of flash memory and notice an increase in gaming applications or are we talking just simple OS functions?
- jtherrien, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2Good stuff, fanboy.
- 7of7, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2As I understand it, ReadyBoost speeds things up by acting as a flash memory paging device. So instead of paging to your HD it creates a page file on the external device. I'm using it right now in fact but Vista isn't using enough of my 1GB of RAM for it to make a big difference. Vista is very fast even without it.
- LilRabbitFooFoo, on 08/11/2008, -2/+4Yes, I'm sure it can be just as incompatible and productivity crippling as any decent desktop. :)
- mercurysquad, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2Open source doesn't mean people should have to (perhaps illegaly) reverse engineer how a device works. If they are not going to write the drivers themselves (and either keep the code propietary or make it open source), at least provide the community with all the documentation required to write drivers. Sadly they don't do that either, in the interest of protecting their technology.
- stubear, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2noahhoward,
sideshow is a technology for laptops that allows users to receive alarms for appointments, inspect e-mail, listen to music, etc all without having to first startup the PC. By allowing access to time critical information or things like music in a low-powered auxillary users save battery life. You can read more about it here, http://www.microsoft.com/windowsvista/community/sideshow.mspx - OBKenobi, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1[quote]like the 5400rpm ones used in laptops[/quote]
I've got a 7200rpm in my laptop. I think most laptops come with fast HDs these days. I don't see how flash RAM running from a USB port is going to help anything.
Anyway, mainstream solid state drives and hybrid drives are right around the corner, they will make this flash RAM hack obsolete. - OBKenobi, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1Asus has a sideshow-like device for desktop PCs, provided your motherboard supports it:
http://www.dailytech.com/article.aspx?newsid=5836 - inactive, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1Sideshow is going to be "XWindows" for Windows. Got a PDA? Smartphone? You'll be able to put the display-window from Anything-Running-On-Your-Vista onto it... Once all the pcs of the pie come together, I expect this to be the reason why every electronics ends up with a LCD in it.
I dont see why this couldnt be wireless before summer.... dont know what the data transfer rates over wireless requirements would be, but untethering something should be relatively trivial for an EEng. - wolf08, on 10/12/2007, -2/+3and windows isn't?
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -1/+2I fail to see how at the time a desktop class Pentium 3.4 Ghz cpu, 1GB of ram, and a video card wouldn't be considered top of the line. Maybe not #1, but definately not weak.
- OBKenobi, on 10/12/2007, -1/+2Step 4 You (jchandler) get punched in the face for spamming
And your blog sucks. - BlackAdderIII, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1"""as I understand it - drivers to devices should be able to made by the open source community - just call one of your buddies and have him compile it for you. Open source is what open source does."""
You understand it wrong. No hardware spec = no drivers in many cases. In some cases you can reverse engineer them quickly, in other cases it would be done years after the product lifespan ended, in other cases you can end up with stuff you can't release for legal reasons.
There's nothing "free as in beer" about the money a user has paid for their hardware if they use Linux, there's no sensible reason for a lack of drivers. - lengau, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1@halifax: Why? Once a main distro runs it (i.e. once there are drivers for the new stuff in it), it'll be awesome with Linux!
- NiX0n, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1The words "Ultimate" and "Windows" don't belong in the same sentence.
- Exzero, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1too much gimmick aids >.>
- BlackAdderIII, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1I'm digging some of these new laptops - I'm going to have to get me one of those LGs by thelook of things :-)
"""Yeah, get a Sideshow enabled laptop then install *nix. Good idea. Not an entire waste of cash for your petty $100."""
Yeah, because "SideShow" isn't an exaggerated way of saying "second display" or anything, is it? "Gadgets" aren't a slightly boring knock-off of superkaramba or gdesklets are they?
Isn't there a term used to describe people who label other people's ideas as their own?
As it happens, I am one of many people with a small flat screen on the front of my desktop computer, which displays, in my case, information about the system in superkaramba widgets. Most of the time I have it switched off because it's totally useless - but OH MY GOD I WISH I HAD SIDESHOW!!! AN X SERVER COULD NEVER RUN A SECOND SCREEN!!!11!!!!ONE!! - jtherrien, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1@Elroy:
Flash is very fast. Perhaps not in sustained transfer, but definitely in seek time. It has a read time over 10x faster than that of an average hard-drive. - Tobey, on 10/12/2007, -1/+2Ugh, those were terrible...
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