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- Roger, on 11/13/2007, -4/+74Is it harder too?
- chess10, on 11/12/2007, -20/+80I cannot wait until these things become ubiquitous, and as usual, voting for Ron Paul will cause this to happen...
- colonelbuckshot, on 11/13/2007, -3/+63*prays to the god of price-drops*
- MadOgre, on 11/12/2007, -10/+57Ron Paul's tears can cure cancer too... to bad he never cries... ever.
- Lanze, on 11/13/2007, -2/+30Disadvantages
Flash based SSDs also have several disadvantages:
* Price – As of early 2007, flash memory prices are still considerably higher per gigabyte than those of comparable conventional hard drives – around US$8 per GB compared to about US$0.25 for mechanical drives. As of November 2007, 128 GB SSD on Newegg is $3,999.
* Lower recoverability – After mechanical failure the data is completely lost as the cell is destroyed, while if normal HDD suffers mechanical failure the data is often recoverable using expert help. Subsequent investigations into this field, however, have found that data can be recovered from SSD memory.
* Vulnerability to certain types of effects, including abrupt power loss (especially DRAM based SSDs), magnetic fields and electric/static charges compared to normal HDDs (which store the data inside a Faraday cage).
* Limited write cycles. Typical Flash storage will typically wear out after 100,000-300,000 write cycles, while high endurance Flash storage is often marketed with endurance of 1–5 million write cycles (many log files, file allocation tables, and other commonly used parts of the file system exceed this over the lifetime of a computer). Special file systems or firmware designs can mitigate this problem by spreading writes over the entire device, rather than rewriting files in place.[2]
* Slow random write speeds – as erase blocks on SSDs generally are quite large, they're far slower than conventional disks for random writes.[3]
* Speed advantage of SSDs can be overcome by RAID setups of conventional HDD. Which may have more storage and speed for a much lower cost. - Urusai, on 11/12/2007, -4/+32Ron Paul doesn't sleep--he waits.
- asdfuiop, on 11/12/2007, -1/+19If being aroused by this is wrong, I don't want to be right.
- the_snitch, on 11/12/2007, -0/+17EXACTLY. 3 years ago everyone thought that LCD Tvs were stupid, and Plasma technology was the way of the future.
Now when I go to the Electronics dept, 80% of the TVs are 32-60" LCDs, with a few plasmas and CRTs on the side. The salesman says "Yeah, I never tell anyone to buy plasmas...Burn in, Fuzzier Pic...it's not worth it".
I can see SSDs overtaking HDDs in notebook computers in less than 5 years - JasonHilton, on 11/12/2007, -1/+17What you don't get is that these drives are NOT your typical "flash drive" memory. SSD's should last about 10 years under normal use.
- Zaneris, on 11/11/2007, -0/+16*Diggs up to prove you wrong*
- getrealnow, on 11/13/2007, -0/+15As any new hardware(technology) it usually has one major advantage, over others, but several disadvantages. But as time goes on, and more time is developed those disadvantages get fixed. I hope this happens to SSDs.
- fkr3, on 11/12/2007, -2/+16Ron Paul once had a "who has the most testicles" competiton with Lance Armstrong.... and lost.
Oh wait I think I did that wrong.... - merwin, on 11/12/2007, -1/+15You do realize that you're going to get dugg WAYYYYY down for submitting multiple times, right?
- robbh66, on 11/11/2007, -0/+14At roughly a grand, I don't see anyone giving these puppies away anytime soon.
- pintomp3, on 11/12/2007, -2/+15shut up.
- Roger, on 11/12/2007, -1/+14Umm... no.
Ref: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=seEngAvAmhw - BluesFan, on 11/12/2007, -0/+11Wait for the next generation of SSd's,they will be cheaper,faster,more write cycles and come with one of the hooter babes.
- MadOgre, on 11/11/2007, -5/+14Give me two of those and I'll swap them for my lappy's hard drive in a second.
- Burn, on 11/12/2007, -0/+9That's better; ***** Kanye West.
Edit: Why is Digg's comment system so *****? That was meant to be a reply to Roger. - getrealnow, on 11/12/2007, -0/+8Then everyone is gonna be like, dude holy ***** you still have a HDD? Hey 2001 called they want their Technology back!
- tratten, on 11/13/2007, -0/+8"* Speed advantage of SSDs can be overcome by RAID setups of conventional HDD. Which may have more storage and speed for a much lower cost."
The access time advantage can never be overcomed by a RAID setup.
- outofbeta, on 11/12/2007, -2/+10Chuck Norris called. He wants his... oh nevermind.
- TRENT310, on 11/12/2007, -0/+8Um, what people also don't get is that traditional hard drives experience mechanical failure inevitably. The likelihood of a normal, mechanical hard drive 'crapping out' is, from a mix of theory and practice, much higher than a SSD, but we'll have to wait and see about that...
My point is, hard drives don't have unlimited read/write cycles either. - TheDutch, on 11/12/2007, -0/+8"Samsung's 64GB SSD: better, faster, stronger !"... it's also way expensivER
- jynweythek, on 09/17/2008, -0/+5give it a few years...
- richardbowles, on 11/12/2007, -3/+8dickface; doesn't everything have a lifetime failure of 100% / or else it wouldn't have a lifetime
- bittie, on 11/12/2007, -0/+5Thanks for the correct link and not that to ***** Kayne West...
- Roger, on 11/12/2007, -0/+5I hope its a learning opportunity for you too.
- ravs, on 11/12/2007, -0/+4That just completely went over your head didn't it? It's alright. It's a learning opportunity. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FAK_jtOf70g
- TLobes, on 11/11/2007, -3/+7As soon as the price comes down to the $300 range for a 128GB, I'd take it. I hope these will become as popular as memory sticks which once were this expensive for relatively low storage. I just hope reliability of storage increases with the rest of these bonuses.
- JapaneseEconomy, on 11/11/2007, -0/+4Thats impressive, but check out the $19000 640GB SSD drive that runs at 800MB/s read and write which is 10x faster than any HDD:
http://www.dailytech.com/640GB+PCI+Express+Flash+D ...
unfortunately girl not included - kidcodea, on 11/12/2007, -1/+5this is all i have to say http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K2cYWfq--Nw
- DaffyDuck, on 11/12/2007, -0/+4"why are these called 'disks'"
Since you are the first to call it a disk I have to ask the same question to you. - merwin, on 11/11/2007, -0/+4Read this page:
http://www.storagesearch.com/ssdmyths-endurance.ht ...
SSD's nowadays should last longer than a standard hard drive in your laptop. Also take into consideration that a laptop hard drive gets rattled around alot, which can potentially reduce the lifespan of a platter drive. - dfarq, on 11/12/2007, -0/+4My employer's massive Oracle servers would love that drive. These are people who will spend $100,000 on a server and not complain about it, so they'd drop $19K on a drive if someone could demonstrate that it would speed the server up.
- itseffinkasey, on 11/11/2007, -1/+4Give me juts one for my desktop and I'll had it with my 750 gig and 500 gig and I'll do it in a second also.
- armbar, on 11/13/2007, -0/+3I can't believe you think Kanye East came up with anything original.
- diggik, on 11/11/2007, -2/+5Bye, bye mechanical disks.
- radiometric, on 11/12/2007, -0/+2Alienware has RAID available [2 HDDs] on some lappies. My gf got one months ago.
- currybunny, on 11/12/2007, -0/+2No, I'm pretty sure you didn't get the joke.
- Angirus, on 11/14/2007, -2/+4I have a lifetime hard drive failure rate of about 40%, so I'll pay triple for a reliable form of storage.
- radiometric, on 11/12/2007, -0/+2I dugg you up regardless of the truth of that statement, but for the mental image it inspired instead.
- DROWE859, on 11/12/2007, -1/+3Good thing Solid State Drives like this one aren't like the the standard jumpdrives people carry around then.
- 3leggedHorse, on 11/11/2007, -0/+2 That will squeeze a few extra mins out of a battery.
- krusader3z, on 11/12/2007, -0/+2Can someone explain BMW's system?
- BartvanStiphout, on 11/11/2007, -0/+2/wiki
- theblacknight, on 11/11/2007, -1/+3Hard drives are only cheaper per gigabyte if you get physically large hard drives. A couple of years ago, it was cheaper to get a 8GB 1" hard drive than a 8GB flash drive; now 1" hard drives have been completely pushed out of the market. The same thing is likely to happen in a couple of years with 1.8" hard drives.
I've never known a flash drive to be damaged by casual magnetic fields and I've worked in labs with 10 Tesla electromagnets, but if you're worried you could put it in a faraday cage like a metal laptop case or metal computer tower.
The issue of hard drive latency cannot be overcome by any means using conventional hard drives.
As for write speeds, I hope they improve quickly but I think for most consumer level applications, the faster flash drives are fast enough. Furthermore, it is generally more important to be able to read quickly than to write quickly since things like load time and response time depend more on read speed and latency than write speed. - stacky, on 11/12/2007, -0/+2The magnetic field required to affect solid state memory would be enough to first suck the iron out of your blood.
I don't remember where I read that, but it was in an article of technology myths on digg. - dawgma, on 11/11/2007, -0/+2Right. Incredibly low access times are the most important feature of SSDs for most users.
- guinnessstout, on 11/11/2007, -1/+3About getting used to the silence, I wonder if they will add a sound feature to install into Linux or Windows when the drive is working. Similar to what BMW did with its first drive by wire system, people felt that it was very odd to drive the car being unable to "feel" the road in the steering well.
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