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- busta, on 10/12/2007, -1/+33dugg for spelling mistake that was more attention grabbing than the title itself.
- mercurysquad, on 10/12/2007, -3/+34Bsecuae it dsoen't mtetar waht odrer the leretts in a wrod are....
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -1/+32Why msut poelpe psot thnigs wihtuot proofraednig frist?
- raptordrew, on 10/12/2007, -2/+23I lvoe the ferkaish abliity we hvae in radeing lkie tihs.
- jackman3, on 10/12/2007, -3/+217200RPM *AND* and an 8MB cache buffer?! Welcome to 2003!
- spatznick, on 10/12/2007, -0/+15
Yeah, this is pretty much what I've just read... - geminitojanus, on 10/12/2007, -0/+13"computers ought to have mufflers."
Computers ought not need mufflers. These things aren't cars, they've got relatively few moving parts (and can be built without _any_ moving parts), but we've got to use aggressive active cooling on the suckers because companies don't care how energy efficient their product is, just that it's getting bought as fast as they can produce it. - spatznick, on 10/12/2007, -5/+18
I personally wish they focus their efforts in creating cheaper and larger SSD.
The rotary HDD as we know it might be dead in a few years anyway. - Ajajadude, on 10/12/2007, -3/+15Amen. Especially considering the CPU and case fan in my computer drown out any sort of noise any hard drive could ever hope to produce.
- DaffyDuck, on 10/12/2007, -2/+13"The rotary HDD as we know it might be dead in a few years anyway."
Hard disk prices are falling and capacities increasing as fast if not faster than solid state memory. And with perpendicular recording this trend will continue for a while. The point is, hard drives are going to continue to be important for storing media for a long time because they will continue to be the most cost effective on a per GB basis. - geminitojanus, on 10/12/2007, -0/+8"Welcome to 2003!"
Have to admit though, great way to get rid of extra stock, and a great way to stick a drive in a computer that's in your bedroom. Leave the big, loud disks for the computer room, work off remote shares. This thing screams "home entertainment center drive", like for the AppleTV. - mikeazorin, on 10/12/2007, -2/+9You idiot.
- mitrovarr, on 10/12/2007, -0/+6Actually, a lot of people are bothered by loud fans and chattery hard (and optical) drives. There's been a lot of research put into passive cooling, quieter fans, and more silent drives over the years. That's why a modern computer has much more cooling ability than one from 10 years ago, without being piercingly loud - things like variable-speed fans, noise-dampening cases, and reduction in hardware heat production work together to make it tolerable. It didn't happen on its own.
However, I think Samsung might see this particular technology obsoleted very quickly. Solid-state drives are going to overtake the 80gb market quite soon. Unless this scales up well into 500gb+ sizes it probably won't survive too long. - stupidbrowner, on 10/12/2007, -2/+8@ Anpheus
(CPU and Case) fan. What kind of computer are you using that doesn't have a CPU fan :P - geminitojanus, on 10/12/2007, -1/+5"However, I think Samsung might see this particular technology obsoleted very quickly. Solid-state drives are going to overtake the 80gb market quite soon. Unless this scales up well into 500gb+ sizes it probably won't survive too long."
Well, quiet drives aren't a real hard thing to build, they're just more costly to build. So, what you do is take yesterday's unsold (unassembled) stock, slap some quiet barrings, a quieter, brushless DC motor, an insulated, vibration damped housing and a modern controller chip on them, and ship them as your "new, low noise" line. The whole point of it is to get rid of the stock you otherwise couldn't sell and would have to do something with.
As for the 80GB flash drive, not for another year at least. 16Gb (that's 4GB) flash modules just aren't available in high quantities yet (thank Apple; they're buying them up as fast as they can be produced), and it probably will be quite a while longer before said 80GB-Flash drives became marketable (nobody wants to spend $1000 on a hard drive, no matter how fast). - geminitojanus, on 10/12/2007, -0/+4"What exactly do they mean by silent?"
"Benchmarking tests on sound power have shown that competing hard drives (80GB and 160GB models) generate on average 2.8 bel (1 bel = 10 decibels) in idle mode and 3.2 bel in seek mode, while Samsung’s S166 series generate just 2.4 bel and 2.75 bel respectively. This significant fifteen percent noise-level reduction makes the drives ideal for use in office computers, as well as in home consumer electronics such as DVR/ PVRs, or any other hard drive equipped products intended for use in a quiet environment."
From TFA. http://www.samsung.com/PressCenter/PressRelease/PressRelease.asp?seq=20070404_0000336337 - Splitt3rxx, on 10/12/2007, -0/+4huh, I didn't even notice the typo until people mentioned it, i just sub consciously read it the correct way.
- Rice, on 10/12/2007, -1/+4Woo, 80 gigs!
- xxenclavexx, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2Rotary HDD will not be dead for along time, I mean people said the same thing about tape storage, and that is still has huge commercial use. Right now Rotary is cheaper per GB and that will make stay a leader in the market. Once SSD becomes cheaper per GB then we will see a shift in usage.
- dt40, on 10/12/2007, -1/+316Gb == 4GB? Are those some sort of special 4-bit bytes?
- pyromouse, on 10/12/2007, -1/+3Cool, low noise tends imply low heat which would be an added perk. I'll wait to see a review on Anandtech. But what's the deal with the lower capacities and 8MB cache? Raises more questions than answers.
- mightytightywty, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2Someone should intorudce a dictionary to your ass
- st3v, on 10/12/2007, -0/+124 dB is not "Silent". Flash drives are silent, unless you can hear electrons bouncing around.
- mercurysquad, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1@bradwilki: Just because you haven't needed a quieter drive, or people you know haven't needed it, doesn't mean no one does. Did the idea of recording studios using such a drive ever occur to you? I don't work at a studio, but I used to record in my home using a desktop computer and the power supply and harddrive noise made me crazy. That noise is more of an annoyance than random sound from outside the room.
- jonathanchong, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1Meh, use the spell check!
- dieinafire, on 10/12/2007, -1/+2i don't know what digg society thinks, but HDD noise really isn't a problem anymore for me. it's more a problem of case fan and GPU fan noise. i guess the real point of interest for me would be if they could be as reliable as western digital's products. until something better comes along, i'll stick to make 15% louder HDDs.
- geminitojanus, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1Digg ate my carots.
- mechanisma22, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1So with a Sonata II case, silent fans or water cooling pump, a spinpoint hard drive you could have a barely audible computer?
- TRENT310, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1My Seagate ST3320620AS is quiet enough for me at 2.5/3.0 bels. (Yay fluid dynamic bearing?) But the 80GB Hitachi drive that came in my other Lenovo is as loud as my 40MB one from 1988! I thought they didn't make drives that bad anymore, seems I'm wrong.
But for me, fan noise covers everything up anyway. 2 centrifugal blowers running at 3350RPM makes the machine sound like a jet engine, (but it keeps the Xeon 3060 CPU down at 24°C.) - DaveClarkOne, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0Yeah, my neighbor always complains about my hard drive noise.
A solution is search of a problem, unless you're talking about 10 year old drives. - RiverBelow, on 10/12/2007, -4/+4"The rotary HDD as we know it might be dead in a few years anyway."
Yeah, thats what they said in 1987. - JackSpratts, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0chasing silence is near futile.
my p2p server (bt, soulseek, waste etc) sits stuffed in a closet connected to big outboard drives floating on foam rubber. normally everything's all very nice and quiet with the door closed, but every once in a while the drives get into this rhythmic, wavelike vibration that makes them much LOUDer than they could ever otherwise be. peaks and troughs of noise seemingly designed to be nothing if not irritating. quite the pita when trying to sleep i must say. bad drives! bad!
they better watch out or it'll be banishment to the garage.
- js. - BlackAle, on 10/12/2007, -1/+1oh no, I guess that comment got dugg down because I said Europe, typical. lol
- TheCash, on 10/12/2007, -1/+0I don't get it... how does a smaller buffer translate into less spintime and less spin noise?
One would think the exact opposite would be true, like those new hard drives that support vista's readyboost and precaching features that are due to come out pretty soon. - gunslinger37, on 10/12/2007, -1/+0well to be honest i have never actually worried about how my computer sounded. i guess that's just how it always was and i assumed always would be. but if you fancy sneaking up on people with you computer or something of the like, then HAZAA!!
- robbiekhan, on 10/12/2007, -3/+0What exactly do they mean by silent? I know the numbers speak "so to speak" but my 7200rpm duo of seagate 7200.10 SATA-II drives are not audible during idle and are only audible faintly during seeking and my whole pc is damn quiet to start with so I don't know what they are wooing about really when drives out now are quiet anyway (well if you have the 7200.10 with pink motor dye :p)
- BlackAle, on 10/12/2007, -4/+1new? these have been out for several months, at least they have in Europe.
- gunslinger37, on 10/12/2007, -5/+1"I'm sure a lot of people would rather a quieter drive than a larger / faster drive."
personally, i don't care how quiet my drives are. of course there is a limit (i don't want to be having to wear earplugs). but as long as they don't get louder, it should be ok. i definitely do not find the current noise levels to be intrusive at all. - ToadPedestal, on 10/12/2007, -4/+0stupidbrowner:
I don't know what kind he has, but my EPIA with CF rocks.
I have one question, though. What's a case fan?
http://my.koala.kicks-ass.org:3080/images/drawer_computer.jpg - Anpheus, on 10/12/2007, -11/+7Damn, which CPU do you use that actually creates noise itself?
- geminitojanus, on 10/12/2007, -8/+2"I personally wish they focus their efforts in creating cheaper and larger SSD."
That'd be great, except for the elephant in the room: where are you going to get _that much_ solid state memory? It's already sky high expensive and everyone who has the capacity to build the stuff is cranking it out harder and faster than ever and we're still behind demand. So sure, solve the supply problem and you've got yourself a deal. Until then, this isn't so bad an alternative. - AdebisiTheGamer, on 10/12/2007, -6/+0Even with my case open, I cannot hear my dual Seagates operating and the model I am using has been around a long time now. And my case is very quiet.
Now, I do not know how much quieter you need to be when I cannot hear TWO seagate barracuda hard drives, 3 feet away from me, with the case open.
I simply cannot see how this is even digg worthy. - bradwilki, on 10/12/2007, -6/+0Hah, things used to be so loud a few years ago. Look where we are now, another break through in noise reducing technology! I've never heard anyone complain about how loud there computer was EVER. Just a waste of people and Samsungs money.
- robdickinson, on 10/12/2007, -9/+1Welcome to missing the point. I'm sure a lot of people would rather a quieter drive than a larger / faster drive.
Cant help feeling this is too little too late though & solid state drives will overtake them very soon. - Vapor17, on 10/12/2007, -12/+4i dunno... bury me if u want, but i like to able able to hear the comp, so i can tell if its working, or frozen, etc....
anyone know what i mean? - otheruser, on 10/12/2007, -11/+1computers ought to have mufflers.
- MiDri, on 10/12/2007, -14/+2hhhaaaa ym hade!
- anar1987, on 10/12/2007, -20/+5This is damn quiet... i like it
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