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- toxicityj, on 02/15/2008, -9/+214"When Apple rolled out the MacBook Air with its solid-state disk (SSD) inside, it felt like a new era in laptop computing had begun"
yeah, because Apple was the first to slap an SSD inside a laptop. give me a break. - GhostWithToast, on 02/15/2008, -4/+87they use less energy, they have no moving parts, they are faster - give it some time they will be a standard.
- rnawky, on 02/15/2008, -5/+80Apple could make a TV right now with a RF controller instead of an IR controller and everyone would ***** their pants and get it because it's amazing and no one has ever done it before.
/sarcasm - Fox318, on 02/15/2008, -5/+54Didn't you know? Apple created everything.
- godzillaWax, on 02/15/2008, -2/+43Buried as inaccurate for suggesting Apple started the trend of laptops with solid state drives.
- Sharky35, on 02/15/2008, -1/+37When I worked for the phone company (desktop support)... we had a RAM Drive Server running on a UNIX platform... It took a small room to house it. The RAM Drive consisted of bank after bank of 30 pin SIMM's that were 8MB each. I think the server had a capacity of 2GB and was backed-up on several hard drives. Funny thing is, that monster was one of the fastest computers I have EVER used. It held the phone number look-up database.
- Dokument, on 02/15/2008, -1/+33I thought the eeepc had a ssd disk. no?
- tofagerl, on 02/15/2008, -0/+27Not yet, no. But wait a while.
- Firehed, on 02/15/2008, -0/+24A tiny one, but yes.
- magic6435, on 02/15/2008, -1/+24The eee is a desktop? Kill whoever told you this.
- mattmcm, on 02/15/2008, -1/+24Holy crap, I'm getting moist just thinking of it.
- BillGod, on 02/15/2008, -0/+20ssd vs spinning.. depends on the application. I had a 10 gb archos mp3 player with a hard drive in it. The thing was great... until you hit 60mph on the motorcycle.. the vibration of the bike matched that of the disk and it would cut out. Like clock work. 59mph ok.. 60+ gone. if you hit 90 it would come back on. but driving 90 mph everywhere you go just so you can listen to some tunes is a bit illegal. but then again so is riding with headphones on.
- ebrandsberg, on 02/15/2008, -1/+20The article talked about sequential, but didn't mention random reads/writes. Find the benchmarks on those and you see the difference.
- chrispr, on 02/15/2008, -0/+18If you've got thousands of dollars worth of data on your hard drive, you can afford a RAID system.
- spyrochaete, on 02/15/2008, -2/+20It's when you eat a bunch of caffeine pills and drive through Idaho overnight without stopping.
- inactive, on 02/15/2008, -0/+17SDRAM is typically much faster than the ram used in SSDs.
- ryanonfire, on 02/15/2008, -5/+20Solid-state are better but its just not worth it until the price goes down.
- ferrariman60, on 02/15/2008, -1/+15lol the eee is an actual ultraportable, lol. You're dumb.
- inactive, on 02/15/2008, -0/+14lol @ people who store "thousands of dollars of data" on their hard drives and don't routinely back up.
- ncredblstrength, on 02/15/2008, -1/+14Will a solid state hard drive help raise my sperm count? or will my laptop still create a hostile inferno of sterility?
- inactive, on 02/15/2008, -0/+12wow, a technology in its infancy is not perfect.
wow, who could have thought.
hard disks were as they are now in 1981. - greenlight2001, on 02/15/2008, -1/+13"Right now you can buy a 750-1000gig hard drive for pennies"
WHERE?!!?!?! Holy *****! That's the deal of a century! Like 1 terabyte for like, what, 3 cents? ***** crazy! - bigsteve, on 02/15/2008, -1/+12Don't forget to mention that it's also a lot more durable, and silent.
And I'm glad to see we're answering questions the average digger might know the answer to, but maybe others wouldn't, and not instead burying them and calling the commenter a "n00b" or something silly. - maninblac1, on 02/15/2008, -2/+13So he bases his entire argument on apple's crappy SSD drive, and other conventional OEM drives, they aren't using the good stuff.
He should check out MTRON, Samsung's latest models, FushionIO and BiTMICRO.
Flash SSD done right. Puts the Raptor to shame.
http://www.anandtech.com/showdoc.aspx?i=3167&p=1 - kent1146, on 02/15/2008, -1/+12It's a hard drive that stores data in flash memory chips, instead of spinning magnetic platters. Basically, imagine a USB memory stick... except in the shape of a hard drive.
No moving parts, low heat, low power consumption, and the *potential* to be faster than today's magnetic platter hard drives. - f4nt0m4s, on 02/15/2008, -1/+10seriously, why give up a kidney for solid-state memory when you can set up a cheap back up system using cheap drives? it's your own damn fault for not backing up "thousands of dollars worth of data"
- ileftfark, on 02/15/2008, -0/+9Al Gore-ithm
- FrostySol, on 02/15/2008, -1/+9fancy feast!
- adooga, on 02/15/2008, -0/+8This isn't much of a story. Here are the underlying truths:
1. New stuff always costs a lot.
2. Some people want it anyway.
3. It always gets cheaper.
4. Then everyone gets it.
5. By then it should be working real good too.
ENDS
### - BlueSkyfish, on 02/15/2008, -3/+11The eeePC was the first to make solid state mainstream, as well as linux.
- Scrappy1850, on 02/15/2008, -0/+8now?
- Emachine, on 02/15/2008, -1/+8I love the SSD in my Asus Eee, the thing boots XP in about 30 seconds... I just wish the capacity was higher.
- bjs3171, on 02/15/2008, -3/+10so...what's a solid state drive?
- greenlight2001, on 02/15/2008, -2/+9It's a safety risk, moron. Driving is a privilege, not a right.
- f4nt0m4s, on 02/15/2008, -2/+9Right now you can buy a 750-1000gig hard drive for pennies. For desktop computers or serious storage, it will be a lonnnngg time before solid-state has a serious consumer impact.
- tupperbacharach, on 02/15/2008, -0/+7I bet that the eeePC sales figures are much higher than those of the Macbook Air.
- xhazerdusx, on 02/15/2008, -0/+7It's more common than you probably think.
- zacharytelschow, on 02/15/2008, -2/+9People that are saying the answer is no simply don't understand where the technology is at. New technologies always have higher prices with marginally better performance at first. Give it a few years and we'll be asking if the new technology is really better than solid state.
- ferrariman60, on 02/15/2008, -3/+10Yeah, right. Since the Macbook air is "mainstream." oh, right. Not everyone has $1800 to drop on half a laptop. Ultraportable's weren't uncommon, and the 12" powerbook is by no means an ultraportable. You're stupid.
- brundlefly76, on 02/15/2008, -0/+7I am so sick of this SSD debate - especially articles like this.
When comparing performance you have to understand that, just like HDD's, NOT ALL SSD's HAVE THE SAME PERFORMANCE SPECS.
I have an MTRON SSD, which, believe me, is much faster than my Raptors in all measurement of performance, is lighter in my notebook, takes less power than my Hitachi 2k200, rarely causes the fan to come on in my laptop and makes no noise whatsoever.
For the most part also I would say if you are getting get read speeds screw write speed, for the same reason DSL is usually asyncronous - you read about 1000X more than you write.
However, most SSD'd right now do not have the performance of my $1000 MTRON - especially the crap they ship with most notebooks like the MacBook AIR - what a ripoff. So, forget about which is faster, SSD or HDD, and compare them drive to drive. - stix213, on 02/15/2008, -0/+6RAID systems are not immune to failure. You accidentally bang something into your raid server and you run a good chance to having multiple disks fail at the same time. It happens more often than you would think.
- blate, on 02/15/2008, -2/+8You'd never heard of mp3 players before the ipod?
- Harbinger67, on 02/15/2008, -0/+6No, but they were the first ones to get up on stage and jerk off over how special they are for doing so.
- DivineMonkey, on 02/15/2008, -1/+6Yeah and how many times a day do you reboot your machine?
- stix213, on 02/15/2008, -2/+7The blanket statement that HDD's can take 50g worth of force while running and your laptop screen would crack first before your HDD dies is completely laughable. This guy doesn't know the first thing about what he is talking about. Laptop HDD's die all the time from people being too rough to their laptops - and without their screens cracking.
Buried for inaccurate - Scrappy1850, on 02/15/2008, -0/+5now?
- tupperbacharach, on 02/15/2008, -1/+6I would bet that many more eeePCs have been purchased than the Macbook Air.
- MikeFromAmerica, on 02/15/2008, -0/+5What... stupidity? I agree completely.
- spyrochaete, on 02/15/2008, -2/+7That's a great anecdote. I imagine it worked so quickly because hard drives were so much slower back then, and because you were doing predictable reads of structured, ordered data. It's a little strange that they'd throw so much expensive hardware at such a simple issue, but I suppose they did a high volume of reads which would tax HDD heads and platters with the constant use.
- Midnitte, on 02/15/2008, -0/+5But it already has a keyboard, and a mouse(pad), and also a screen... its therefore a laptop. -.-
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