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- sockpuppets, on 10/11/2007, -6/+84˙ʍou ʇɥƃıɹ ǝuo uo ƃuıdʎʇ ɯ,ı
- mbdesigns, on 10/11/2007, -2/+51Maybe it should go to a museum???
- michaelfrankie, on 10/11/2007, -2/+32Drink more Ovaltine? Son of a &^(%!
- swanny89, on 10/11/2007, -1/+26Sit Down Dr. Jones!
- Computer_Kid, on 10/11/2007, -18/+39Does it run Linux? :-)
- themulf, on 10/11/2007, -0/+17Wow that will go great with my nazi summer cookware collection!
- inactive, on 10/11/2007, -2/+18Dugg down. The Enigma machine relies on proprietary technology, doesn't follow the recommended web standards, and messages encoded on it follow strict DRM rules to avoid decoding its content.
- secion8, on 10/11/2007, -0/+12See the digg effect in action! Refresh the eBay page and watch the counter roll... HE HE
- anarchytv, on 10/11/2007, -1/+12This ciper has been cracked (yeah duh, but I had to say it lol, people who are interested in this machine are so for historical reasons). About 60 years ago. If you want an uncrackable ciper, do a search on "one time scratch pad". It so incredibly simple, its amazing. basically, make a stack of sheets of totally random numbers. Duplicate this stack as many times as you need as you have in your circle of recipients of your correspondence. glue the edges of them to make them into pads, and give each a pad. When anyone wants to code a message, convert each letter of your message into a number (or ascii, for example), add it to the random number, and repeat, until whole message is encoded. Send coded numbers to your friends, who decode it, by subtracting the same random number from it, and turning it back into alphanumeric. Throw away the sheet that was used, so you're ready for the next message with a fresh sheet of random numbers. The one time scratch pad ciper has never been cracked, and can not be, as long as your enemy never gets a copy of the pad, and as long as your numbers are completly random and have no patern in them.
I recently watched a video about Pelican Bay State Prison on youtube, some prisoners were using an enigma ciper to send messages into and out of the prison. Hard to believe, because its somewhat complicated... I found it hard to believe. How does the man inside decode it. It was probably nothing but a ROT-13 ciper and the NSA just said it was Enigma, to booster their little egos. - krakhed, on 10/11/2007, -1/+12If you had an enigma machine why would you sell it? Booze money?
- h4mx0r, on 10/11/2007, -10/+20No, it ran on Windows. How'd you think they cracked it?
- sonaro, on 10/11/2007, -2/+12If anyone is having problems with the URL, use this:
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=270142870851
And here is more info and pics:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Enigma_machine - Lane, on 10/11/2007, -0/+9operators manual included oh joy!
- djphatjive, on 10/11/2007, -0/+7Now I can finally figure out what those Volkswagen commercials are saying.
- polymorphist, on 10/11/2007, -0/+7Or...the winners are always the good guys.
- tgunner, on 10/11/2007, -1/+8If I was really wealthy... I'd buy it. You can tell by the insignia that this was a War related machine, and not one of the 1920's business models.
- neutrino15, on 10/11/2007, -0/+6hitler's
- Camaroman, on 10/11/2007, -0/+6That sure beats my buzz cola auction
- polymorphist, on 10/11/2007, -0/+5You almost got me there...for a moment I thought that was Hebrew...
- theeris, on 10/11/2007, -0/+5You would think that they would throw in free shipping if you are paying $100,000 for it!
- Noek, on 10/11/2007, -2/+7No english version included? Who's idea was that?!
- leszek, on 10/11/2007, -0/+4the good guys always win.
- RobotCitizen, on 10/11/2007, -0/+4Thanks for explaining the joke.
- crushfan, on 10/11/2007, -2/+6Does Miranda IM support Enigma protocol?
- Tordenflesk, on 10/11/2007, -1/+5What the...?
- taz2w, on 10/11/2007, -0/+3Enigma Simulators http://www.xat.nl/enigma/
Here a java one
http://homepages.tesco.net/~andycarlson/enigma/enigma_j.html - crashbang, on 10/11/2007, -0/+3whoa man.
deep - Wargasmic, on 10/11/2007, -0/+3No, It isn't ancient history. It wasn't that long ago...
- Pyroxene, on 10/11/2007, -0/+3Just think. Everything that box can do back then somebody today can put into a small, online script.
- riotroot, on 10/11/2007, -0/+3http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Enigma_machine
- neutrino15, on 10/11/2007, -1/+3no, it was before people needed operating systems..
- JonnyTrombone, on 10/11/2007, -1/+3I worry about 9/11 nuts because it's really an indication that someone is unable to move past the first stage of grief (denial). (yay comment system!)
- Wargasmic, on 10/11/2007, -0/+2Would you trust shipping?
- MasterGrief, on 10/11/2007, -0/+2It BELONGS in a MUSEUM!
- alexmipego, on 10/11/2007, -0/+2Truth is that is not a useful or particulary beatutiful item like a painting. If you had one it would be useless to the point that you had noone to exchange the encoded messages with. This is the sort of things that you better sell for a lot of money and then visit it on a museum if you fell like seeing it again.
- bohtho, on 10/11/2007, -1/+3My friend here in Norway has three(!) of these in museum condition. One army version with three wheels and two navy with four, including the extra clock ("Uhr") on the side for extra ciphering. Numbered and with manuals. Of course, he has several boatloads of german WWII militaria but I think he got these cheap originally, at about $9000 each... There were quite some left here in Norway after the war.
- bonesbrigade, on 10/11/2007, -0/+2Someone tell Lawrence Waterhouse and Turing!
Too bad that Bletchley Park cracked the 3 and 4 wheel Enigma machines like nothing was in their way. I think we should all pitch in and buy this for Neal Stephenson, since he deserves it (all of this post is related to the book 'Cryptonomicon' in case you don't get it). - Error601, on 10/11/2007, -0/+2I dunno...I think I'd want to drive out and pick it up. What's the Fedex insurance on $100K? COD would really suck.
- blup3ace, on 10/11/2007, -0/+2yes, i agree that 100k for this machine is quiet a bit excessive, as you can get a just-as-functional machine for much less.
and your friend is smart; what's the point of having a machine if you can't use it? - exoir, on 10/11/2007, -0/+2"Congratulations on the purchase of the model1938 Enigma machine. We hope you and your Reich have many hours of enjoyment with the...."
- webaj, on 10/11/2007, -0/+11938 NIB: never heard that before.
- TexMachina, on 10/11/2007, -0/+1IBM didn't make these things. And nice try with the IBM / Nazi connection *****. All IBM did was sell enumerating machines used to sort punch cards to the German government before the war and before there were any restrictions. But I'm pretty ***** sure you already knew that, didn't you.
I'm not some major IBM fanboy or Nazi apologist, I just ***** hate people who ***** with the facts just to make themselves feel clever. - Astaro, on 10/11/2007, -0/+1Its not that bad actually
you pre share a huge cipher pad with your intended recipient.
in the old days you would use ring binders, these days you uses a CDr or dvd-r
its a PITA to use, so you only use it for short text-only messages.
with the ring binder, you through out the pages, and strike through each character as you use it, so you can keep track.
with the CD-r or dvd-r, you load the whole thing into your computer as soon as you get it, and destroy the disk immediately.
then, as you use it, you wipe the file, character by character.
because there is no relationship between one charachter and the next, interference does not destroy the whole message, however, if you miss a message, then there is no way to securely re-synch the sender and recipient's keys. - thcobbs, on 10/11/2007, -0/+1With a tape-fed Turing machine?
- raptordrew, on 10/11/2007, -0/+1Oh man, I want to make a witty reply to this, but only bad things come to mind... I'll resign to just burning in hell for those thoughts without vocalizing them
- jmacdonagh, on 10/11/2007, -0/+1Yeah, those kinds of ciphers (one time pads) are the only computationally secure ciphers. However, the problem is getting the same stack of random numbers to different parties (which is difficult because it has to be as long as the encrypted text, and must be transmitted for each message).
- bonesbrigade, on 10/11/2007, -0/+1It did help lose the war for the Germans though, worse than when Italy invaded Eastern Europe/Balkans.
If your talking about the science part, then 'may Science have mercy on caponumen's soul' would have been a better response. - planktonx, on 10/11/2007, -0/+1Since this is outside the US, it's buyers beware.
- thcobbs, on 10/11/2007, -1/+2If only I had the money.......
- StephenCIreland, on 10/11/2007, -0/+1id sell one for a house
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